petert wrote:

also keeps the taffys in

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The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

It was a lot more complicated than that. The government banning
political uniforms was one reason their support withered.

The grass-roots anti-fascists have been marginalised by many, I'm well
aware. I don't hold with the revisionists who put it in the terms you
do: they were part of what did for Mosley, who was always a minority
figure and rather ridiculous. There was something else to it than that.
But I don't believe a word of the Communist accounts of the day.

I think I'm having fun ranting and raving at the BNP, that's what I
think.

Best you don't take any of my posts to this thread *TOO* seriously.
That would be a mistake.

Except that the fascists lost in the UK, so there must have been some
sort of difference.

I know that what mostly did for Mosley was the fact that all three main
political parties were against him.

So what? You expect me to use honest tactics against the BNP?

Rowland.

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"The Older Gentleman" <totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Apparently it did in Burnley one day in the 70s. The NF went to a
pre-arranged "invasion" of one of the Asian areas to create havoc, only to
be met by a bunch of football "hooligans" dressed up as Vikings, who then
kicked their heads in...

Mike P

On Mon, 05 May 2008 08:09:20 GMT, steve robinson wrote:

and their dykes.
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"Rowland McDonnell" <real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet> wrote in message
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and maim, leaving the BNP to become the respectable face?

Retired

"Rowland McDonnell" <real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet> wrote in message
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If you have done as you say, you would realise that they are extreme
left-wing, communists, not fascists.
Most of their literature is full of Workers rights and Nationalisation,
hardly right wing objectives.

Retired

"Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Let me get this straight... You're so pissed off with people migrating,
that you're going to migrate?

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em?

The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

So you think the slaughter of 8-9 innocents on the roads in this country
a day is a fair price for YOU to pay so YOU can drive fast?

Yes, you probably would think that if you were a totally heartless,
selfish, and slightly psychopathic bastard.

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Simon Dobbs <simondobbs@froglet.net> wrote:

[snip]

Yup.

Yep - new world order. Good, innit?

Ditto - aside from his tendency to snuggle up to terrorist murderers and
anti-semitic nutters.

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petert <peter.thomas@nidum.plus.com> wrote:

<giggle>

There, there, dear. Don't worry.

What anarchy `is' - dear boy, anarchy is whatever the person rejecting
the right of control of one person over another makes it out to be.

I reject that right. I reject the legitimacy of government - that makes
me an anarchist no matter what anyone else thinks.

Anarchy is all about `the people' doing it themselves. No government -
that's the only requirement to meet the `anarchy' spec. I do - and I
don't care if you think otherwise, because I'm an anarchist.

But because I'm an anarchist, I'll explain my position to you even
though I think you'll reject it and even though I've no personal
interest in convincing you. See if you can guess why I do this sort of
thing.

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Adrian wrote:
No you think all voters should be shunned?

On Sun, 4 May 2008 22:57:37 +0100, PeterC
<giraffenos.pam@homecall.co.uk> wrote:

Indeed, but uncle Joe tended to demonstrate his paternalistic ideals
on his own people, while the Austrian corporal tended to be
paternalistic, after 1939, towards foreigners
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Mike P <privacy@privacy.net> wrote:

The NF got their heads kicked in all over the place. Damned good job
too.

But "The Older Gentleman" was talking about the Battle of Cable Street
in particular, back in 1930-whenever.

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Retired <retired@bprivacy.com> wrote:

So you decided to ignore the bit where I explained that I abhor the
tactics of the IRA? And you decided to ignore the bit where I
explained that, unlike BNP scum, the Irish had a legitimate grievance
back in the 1960s and 1970s?

(British rule was then causing harm to the RC part of the population of
NI - although the matter is centuries old and hence more than a little
complicated so not particularly `the fault of the British government of
the day'). Immigrants now are not causing us problems remotely
comparable to the problems that the British government was administering
in NI back then.)

Yes, you did decide to ignore all that, didn't you? Okay, so I'm
replying to a troll - sod it, who cares?

The problems that BNP members complain about suffering from are
nevertheless real - but they're caused by British government policies
towards British people, and are completely unrelated to immigration
issues.

You should be having a go at Gordon Brown, not people with brown skin.

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Retired <retired@bprivacy.com> wrote:

I'm using dishonest ranting tactics here. I am not striving for any
accuracy.

However, Hitler was a fascist by most people's definitions, and his
party was definitely left-wing. The BNP does sound an awful lot like
the National Socialist German Workers Party which Hitler took over, if
you look at things closely.

Hitler ran the National Socialist German Workers Party. The Nazi party.

My case rests.

For sure Hitler was anti-communist, but so were all genuine left-wingers
of the day.

Fascism has nothing to do with whether you're left or right wing as far
as I can tell - Mussolini's version of fascism (arguably the definitive
sort, if you think about it) was rather like Tony Bliar's Third Way in
many respects, if you care to look at how it was done.

However, I was using the word in a deliberately dishonest, demagoguish
fashion, sort of thing. Just having fun ranting at scum. That's all.

Rowland.

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Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

Good riddance, I reckon.

I heard a funny one the other day `Immigration's ruining this country,
I'm moving to Spain'.

So immigration ruins a country, and you're going to make yourself an
immigrant so you can wreck some other poor bastard's home nation?

Rowland.


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Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet> wrote:

I see. What political uniforms did the NF wear, exactly?

"I was only trolling". Ah. It does seem to be from a poisition of
relative ignorance, though.


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Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet> wrote:

You should have moved to Belgium.


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On Mon, 05 May 2008 09:52:18 +0100, Rowland McDonnell wrote:

BNP members should be afforded the same respect as any other minority
group, like it or hate it. I don't much care for grown men sticking their
penises in each others arseholes but I tolerate it without resorting to
calling them 'scum'. You don't have to agree with them, you may find them
loathsome but they have the same right to their views as any other
minority.