I am currently on pipex 1mb very happy and speeds are all good, im
subscribes to a premium usenet provider at $39.95 every 3 months which works
my pipex connection at £28.95 (thats also if pipex dont put this up, intro
offer)+£7 around pm so about £36 pm month for 1mb and amazing binaries. Now
for an xtra £3 I could go to plus net 2mb unlimited service and the buzz at
the moment about there newsgroups seems amazing.

Now with all these people "leeching" as one says aren't this servers going
to become overloaded and then a 10gb cap put in like pipex, what im asking
is it worth migrating or is it pretty much guaranteed that the plusnet
newsgroups are gonna become slow and caps are going to be put in.

the amount of people I have seen migrate to plusnet here and on adslguide is
pretty high and many of them always post to big up there newsgroups but are
plusnet going to lose money on there 2mb service if they have to continually
fund the newsgroups too.

any plusnet staff care to comment!

MagicUK said

But this is a pipex newsgroup...

Sorry i was also looking for pipex users in my situation and what there
reasons for not leaving as well, please bear in mind that im with pipex
still but also want to know what pipex users feelins of the 10gb cap and
all. soz to annoy anyone!
"Edwin" <EdwinRye@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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MagicUK said

Not annoyed! Just puzzled as to why you were asking for Plusnet staff
comments via a Pipex newsgroup, that's all. :-)

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:20:02 +0100, Edwin <EdwinRye@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Probably because it was cross-posted to uk.telecom.broadband.

As for the OP migrating, why not? It's free and Plusnet will even pay
your migration away from them if you aren't happy.

Oliver.

Oliver said
Fairy nuff, I hadn't spotted the cross-post. Although still probably
wishful thinking if he expects ISP staff to comment via that ng either.

I never said a word about that, or even thought one come to that. It is
none of my business, nor do I care.

You paranoid?

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:45:34 +0100, Edwin <EdwinRye@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I was talking to the OP. I could've posted twice but I decided to
combine it into one.

Oliver.

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:45:34 +0100, Edwin <EdwinRye@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Hi there,

I can't see us capping the newsgroups. However, with the way BT are
charging for ADSL at present (ie capacity based charging), I think it
will be inevitable that capping on a grand scale will come into place
for your total data transfer and no ISP will be able to afford
subsidising an "Unlimited" service.

Our News servers were recently revamped (about two months ago) and the
feedback fromt his has been superb. We will continue to monitor this
and upgrade as necessary, but this is with all our systems and
networks.

this and any other queries customers may have.

kind regards

Luke
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:17:58 +0100, PlusNet Support
<lhorwath@plus.net> wrote:

I think Pipex customers have grown alien to the notion of
communication from their ISP, Luke The sterling support from
Plusnet CS does not go unappreciated, and I hope you win the
well-deserved UK Internet Awards award for customer service.

Oliver.

Hi there,
"PlusNet Support" <lhorwath@plus.net> wrote in message
news:r261l0lguom7pimklualqst7gci9447v1v@4ax.com...
If there is going to be capping on a grand scale, how are people (ISP's)
like BT going offer video on-demand? they say you need a 2 meg stream for
full quality and surely that involves a lot of data transfer?
Yup, they are brilliant, oops no they arent we dont want any more people
using them

Mike.

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:40:50 GMT, firedragonuk@hotmail.com wrote:

Well higher bandwidth products still let you do X in 5 seconds instead
of 10 or 20 seconds. 24/7 bittorents are another matter.

Wanadoo's 30GB cap is an ominous sign of what may be about to happen
everywhere.

Oliver.

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:04:55 +0100, Oliver <oliver341@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

And BT Yahoo's 15GB/30GB cap too, for that matter.

Oliver.

I can see where your coming from!
"Mike" <me.on@the.web> wrote in message
news:4150a2f9$0$82275$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...

Oliver said

Hush my mouth, but I have used around a dozen ISPs over the years and
that is the first time I have ever seen an official of an ISP post in an
official capacity to any newsgroup!

So my surprise has got nothing to do with using Pipex or any other ISP
come to that - usually it is just the loose techie who posts in his
lunch break and these are hardly in a position to make official
statements.

In fact, one chap from energis who used to post to the freeserve
newsgroups actually got reprimanded for it. :-)

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:53:57 +0100, "Mike" <me.on@the.web> wrote:

They want you to pay for that data transfer.

The trouble is, we have all got used to the idea of a flat-rate
internet access, but that only worked with narrowband because the
amount of data that could be transferred was insignificant in cost
compared to the line costs.

But with much higher volumes possible with broadband, some form of
metered usage is pretty well inevitable, whether in fairly wide bands,
or on a per-Mb basis.

I would expect most ISPs to end up with a similar sort of setup to
mobile phone networks, where you have a variety of plans, with
"bundled" bandwidth, and anything above your bundle being charged at a
different rate, depending on the plan.

Unless, of course, some other technology comes along that makes data
transfer and storage virtually free :-)

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PlusNet Support wrote:

Is bandwidth used by people accessing the newserver (on your own
networks) any cheaper (from your point of view) than that which would be
used by an external source? such as p2p traffic?

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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:53:34 +0100, Edwin <EdwinRye@hotmail.com>
wrote:

BT, I believe, did. That was pretty funky.

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 06:52:20 +0100, Desireless <chaeo@dsl.pipex.com>
wrote:

Yes, BTOpenworld support have always posted in an official capacity to
their internal groups.

Although they have also always had a tendency to disappear for a while
whenever there was a major problem.

Plusnet are very unusual in also posting on support issues to an
external group such as this (uk.telecom.broadband).
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firedragonuk@hotmail.com wrote:
Why? I currently download/upload about 17GB a month (although it
averages out to about 13GB) on 512. I seriously doubt if I got 1MB/2MB
it would increase that much, as the only reason I would want it is the
speed increase not the "I can leach more stuff from BitTorrent now"
which, unfortunately, seems to be what the majority of people seem to
want if you look at ADSLGuide.

It seems, to me at least, that those people who do not like capping are
those who regularly download more than what most ISPs who already have
caps (Wanadoo, BT etc.) have them set at (30GB?). I suspect that these
people will soon find that most ISPs have to introduce capping of some
sort especially, as far as I can gether, those who still use the
old-fashioned charging model who will be forced to move to UBC soon. I
suspect it will also affect CBC as well.

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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:28:38 +0100, Oliver <oliver341@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

their replies on their own newsgroup;
plusnet.service.customer-feedback
(I don't think this is available for non-PlusNet subscriers.)

Phil