PlusNet have been fine since I joined them.

However, this morning at 4am it went down for a while - the ADSL connection
was fine and could connect to PlusNet but not able to access their server -
i.e. could not surf or use mail/newsgroups etc.

We connected about 20 minutes later.

Went to work and came back and could not connect (sometime between then and
now, the service went down again). Fine upon router reboot.

Anyone else experienced these problems - did not expect it of PlusNet.

AMO

can be a number of reasons

1. p2p app flooding the router and crashing it
2. power spikes causing the router to lockup or trip the breakers or if just
enough of a spike the router just hangs and needs power cycled. I get that
alot with the dodgy highland electricity supply.
3. BT working on your exchange
4. Microwaves / Street lighting going causing interferance

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 19:11:28 +0100, "Gus" <cro___1@hotmail.com> wrote:

I didn't know microwaves could cause problems -- maybe they're causing
mine. I live within 120m of a mast with Orange mobile and several
other microwave arrays. The phone line is overhead and therefore
exposed to microwaves. Anyone like to comment on the liklihood of this
causing my ADSL probs? Modem is out of sync most of the time, but it
works perfectly now and again.

Another example of paranoia about mobile mast radiation. No no and again no!

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 20:22:23 +0100, Robin Faichney
<robin@reborntechnology.invalid> wrote:

So remote as to be impossible.
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you might want to subscribe to plusnets usenet service newsgroup ie they
give very detailed explanations of problems / solutions and of planned
maintence - which there was this morning


quote

Service Affected:- All Services

Maintenance Window:- Friday 1st October 4:00am - 6:00am

Detailed description of work to be performed:-

We are upgrading one half of our London switchcore to run at 10Gbps.
There will be a few minor changes to routing in Telehouse East to
improve the resiliency of the platform in general and specifically to
the DNS platform. The core network in Sheffield will be reworked and
rerouted to improve site resiliency.

Duration of expected customer impact:-

The work on the switchcore in London and the routing changes in
Telehouse East are expected to produce only minor effects lasting a few
seconds. The work in Sheffield is likely to produce more noticable
effects lasting perhaps five or ten minutes.

Expected Customer Impact:-

Customers may see short periods of timeouts and routing anomilies in
London while the changes are made to the switchcore and to routing in
Telehouse East. Customers are likely to see instability in Sheffield and
a possible loss of access to Sheffield-based services whilst the changes
are made. These services include mail and webspace access, portal access
and CGI platform access.

unquote

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Regards

CP



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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 22:46:44 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
<g6jns@spamcop.net> wrote:

I think it was a reasonable question. To accuse anyone who has any
questions about possible downsides of microwave radiation of being
paranoid seems a bit extreme.

However, as my modem has now remained in sync for most of Saturday
afternoon, I think it reasonable to rule out mobile-related
interference.

$%^*^%£!!! Wouldn't you know it, it lost sync just as I was writing
that sentence!

Nothing like as extreme as the total claptrap talked about radiation from
mobile phone masts by most of the press and public! The public paranoia
about them is analogous to the witchcraft trials in Salem and has just as
much scientific basis. Some very simple physics will show that the
radiation level that individuals, or equipment, is subject to from the
transmitters on a mobile phone mast is much lower than that they receive
from the handset. It is established fact that radiation levels decrease
according to the inverse square law. Simply put this means that the
radiation level is reduced by the square of the reduction in distance. Take
a look at
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consumer_gui...t_info?a=87101
for details of the audit being done on mobile phone radiation levels at
sensitive sites like schools and hospitals. These show that levels are so
low as to be insignificant. The highest level so far recorded being 1/279
the recognised safe level. If there is a danger from higher levels then
people should be paying attention to the proximity of their handsets not the
masts.

Peter Crosland wrote:
Especially the BBC who seem to forget they are the biggest generator of
RF radiation in the country.

Tony

Tony Raven wrote:
Hmm - I wonder if that's still true ? If you add up all the BBC
transmitters is that really as much as say 10,000,000 cell phones at
around 1W each ?

Paul

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:25:12 +0100, Robin Faichney
<robin@reborntechnology.invalid> wrote:

Sorry to say it, but only if your phone lines happen to be wrapped
round the cavitrons.

No, frankly, its not. You need to read a little more quality reporting
and believe less of what you read in flyers stuck through your door by
ignoramuses and Nimbys.

It was reasonable to rule that out from the first instant.

If you want to get paranoid about something, how about your cordless
phone - did it just ring? Or your old corded phone? Or did your
microwave oven get turned on? Or your electronic garage door opener?
Or your air conditioning fan plugged into the same power circuit as
your modem? Or any of a zillion other noisy electrical devices round
your house?

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:57:43 -0700, Paul Russell <prussell@sonic.net>
wrote:

The Oxford TV/Radio transmitter is 500,000 watts all by itself, so
probably yes.

Now theres something for the radiation worriers. As much power as 5000
mobile phone masts all on its own.

And bear in mind your phone itself pours FAR more energy into you than
any mast, because typically its 1mm from your head, not 10 kilometres.

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 20:22:23 +0100, Robin Faichney
<robin@reborntechnology.invalid> wrote:

No more dangerous than the microwave radiation from your local TV
transmitter that your telephone line is being attacked by 24 hours a
day.


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Peter

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On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 17:12:09 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
<g6jns@spamcop.net> wrote:

This is totally irrelevant. I asked whether microwave radiation might
interfere with ADSL and I'm immediately classed with the
anti-technology fringe. That's irrational. Not as irrational as some
on the other side, perhaps, but irrational nevertheless.

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:08:46 GMT, Mark McIntyre
<markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote:

You're talking to someone who doesn't even know what a cavitron is. I
insist that, for someone in my position, it was a perfectly reasonable
question. We can't all be telecoms experts.

This is just stupid. I've never read anything or heard anything from
anyone about microwaves interfering with ADSL, apart from the posting
that started this. If I ask whether my fridge switching on and off
could be causing my problems, does that make me an anti-fridge loony?
If not, what's the difference?

Assuming the relevant technical knowledge, which I don't have.

If I say I live in a relatively low-tech house, with very few such
devices, I'll probably be put back in the loony camp.

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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:25:12 +0100, Robin Faichney
<robin@reborntechnology.invalid> wrote:

Er no. So much rubbish is spoken about microwave radiation. The less
someone knows the more rubbish they spout as they believe everything
they read.
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:57:20 +0100, Tony Raven <junk@raven-family.com>
wrote:

They might know what they are talking about then! I doubt that a
transmitting organisation would not be aware that they are responsible
for generating electromagnetic waves.
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 12:13:46 +0100, Robin Faichney
<robin@reborntechnology.invalid> wrote:

No, you were not. A passing knowledge of O-level physics would have
given you the answer.
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Mark McIntyre <markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote in
news:4u5ul0po8deci33ls4falgn9iacqg2jopn@4ax.com:

Both yourself and Peter have jumped on Robin accusing him of essentially
being a technical retard. To be quite far to Robin, he did not issue the
claim that microwaves interfere with ADSL, infact he asked if anyone could
"comment on the liklihood of this causing my ADSL probs?".

So basically Robin may not have known the facts, but he did ask to confirm
rather than blindly follow a statement.

Someone made a claim about O-level physics. I have to say that GCSE physics
did not say anything about ADSL signals when I did it so the earlier O-
level is highly unlikely to.

Either way, it is Gus you should be jumping on if you really must jump on
someone.

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