Hi all,

Im wondering if this is possible:

Say have always a pc thats always on and connected to broadband
internet, and you also have a dialup type modem in your pc which is
plugged into your landline phone socket.

What im wondering is if there is some way when you are away from home
to connect to your home PC over the internet and make telephone calls
via the computers modem, thereby using your home phone remotely? Does
anyone know of any software that will let you do this, or some method
of doing this?

cheers for any replies,

G T

In article <1099884910.422578.93510@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>,
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In MsgID<MPG.1bf90a141f44a46c9896a8@127.0.0.1> within
uk.telecom.broadband, 'Conor' wrote:

Well, if calling from the right place the local call will be free and
you have up to a 33K (? I think) connection to your ISP.

Could be useful in certain circumstances.

To the OP, under XP setting up RAS for incoming ppp connections is
easy enough, just go to 'new connection wizard' and choose 'set up
advanced connection' under the connection type dialog. It then allows
you to choose the device and username/password combos that are allowed
to connect. AFAIK that is all that is required.

I don't know about setting it's auto-answer options, but if you get
that sorted then I _think_ the standard ICS junk will allow relay
to/from your internet connection, and you might not even need that.
I'm sure someone will correct me where I'm wrong.

If you're not 9x or something then I think it's still doable by adding
the windows plus pack from $soft's website.

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Conor wrote:
well ok, imagine this scenario for example, say you are away from home
and have free internet access on your laptop or pda or similar, say
from a public wifi hotspot, and you want to be able to make free
telephone calls, i know there are a few VOIP providers that provide a
few minutes free telephone calls per month, but imagine you have free
calls via your home phone using OneTel or TalkTalk or something
similar, wouldnt it be cool if you could connect to your home computer
through the internet and get your computer to dial out using your free
calls, and make free calls through the internet?

can you please explain why will it be shite, is 56k not enough
bandwidth for speech applications?

best regards,

G T

Dave J wrote:
hi dave,
thanks for your reply, but i think u might have misunderstood what i
was trying to do?

im not trying to connect to my home pc over the dialup line, im trying
to connect to my home pc over my broadband internet connection, then
somehow get my pc to dial out using the modem so i can remotely use my
phone to make free phone calls.

would this be possible with the instructions you have provided?
cheers,

G T

On 8 Nov 2004 08:36:55 -0800, ub8y05w02@sneakemail.com wrote:

you would need a voice modem as a minimum to do this, and more likely
a VoIP software application with a POTS line card.

http://www.asterisk.org/ runs on Linux

Phil
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On 8 Nov 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, ub8y05w02@sneakemail.com wrote:

Free calls to what ? Send your voice to someone in the UK ? Surely it
would be easier and more convenient to pick up a phone, use some PAYG
mobile, or a calling card. If you will be working elsewhere and want to
make voice calls from somewhere with a suitable connection then BT's BBV
(BroadBand Voice) with 'included' off-peak calls, or the BT Communicator
software on some PC (which would make outgoing calls and have your home
number as the calling ID), or use something else, like sipgate.co.uk
from the remote PC and pay at some fairly low per-minute charge.

Where will you be (which country) when you are making these calls ?

In MsgID<1099931815.383473.321360@z14g2000cwz.googleg roups.com> within
uk.telecom.broadband, 'ub8y05w02@sneakemail.com' wrote:

<snip total wrong end of stick>

No. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

You'd need the sort of voice-modem that allows hands free telephone
calls (via PC mic and speaker), and some sort of VOIP linkup between
your home computer and the remote one. You would then need to patch
these pieces of software together. Probably not that difficult, maybe
even halfway possible with crafty settings in your sounds/multimedia
control panel plus some way of telling the modem which number to dial.

However, when I say 'not that difficult', I mean that I might be able
to bodge something together if it was my equipment, but I cannot think
of anything that would do it straight out of the box.

Maybe someone else can?

I agree that it's a nice idea, and one I hadn't thought of. My
version, which I had already thought of for the time I finally get
broadband, is a setup that allows a linkup to the modem port for
_data_ calls. Not for any particular purpose, just as a toy. (Playing
with BBSs etc)


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Phil Thompson wrote:
is a voice modem equivalent to a POTS line card?

ive looked at asterisk before but from the website could never figure
out exactly what it does, it seems really complicated. I guess it would
do what i require, but i might need to spend ages learning how it works
hehe. Plus i dont have a linux pc, running windows 2000, might have a
look at installing it on Knoppix or some other "live" linux
distribution though,

cheers for the reply,

G T

Peter M wrote:
free calls are free calls, what difference does it make :?
im basically interested in utilising whatever free call plans i have on
my home phone line, when i am actually away from home.

yes

yes it would be more convenient but it wouldnt be free, i didnt ask you
for the most convenient way of using a telephone, i was just enquiring
about a specific way of making calls remotely through a home telephone
line.

Havent tried BT communicator yet, but will give it a go one day. They
do offer one month of free calls as a trial period, which is nice, but
after that its back to normal expensive BT rates.

thats the beauty of it, it wouldnt matter which country i was in, as i
would be connected through the internet.

cheers,

G T

Dave J wrote:
i guess what i need is that program a previous poster mentioned called
asterisk, will have to do some further research into this,
cheers

G T

On 8 Nov 2004 15:40:56 -0800, ub8y05w02@sneakemail.com wrote:

not exactly, its a modem with added voice functionality - for example
it can do answer machine / voice mail functions by answering the phone
and handling voice as opposed to just data.

http://www.ibook.com/downloads/voice-modems.htm

A POTS line card is a voice modem without the modem - its a POTS voice
signal to digital audio convertor (and vice versa).

http://uk.builder.com/downloads/0,39...106177s,00.htm is an
application for making and receiving calls using any TAPI compliant
voice device.

If you want to walk before trying to run I would set yourself the goal
of being able to make a prerecorded phone call from the PC, if you can
do that you are some way to what you want to do.

Asterisk is a telephone exchange built in software. If all the calls
are VoIP then they arrive as digital data and it can route them, put
them into voicemail etc. For connection to POTS phone systems it needs
hardware like a POTS line card - to get the voice signal off a pair of
wires into data format for it to handle.

Products like http://cognigen.net/quicknet/linejack.cgi?talewins
provide an all-in-one VoIP to phone line hardware solution to fit into
a computer which may do what you want.

An FXS port is for connecting a phone, an FXO port is for connecting
to an exchange. A VoIP gateway with one FXO port could sit on your
LAN and dial out when you called it over VoIP - Vega25 for example
http://www.vegastream.com/vega10_20_25.asp

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On 08 Nov 2004 Dave J <requiem@freeuk.com> wrote:

Mmmmmm, I put my own choice of 'music on hold' from one PC into another
and had the voice-capable modem on when I was testing an Elsa modem for
them (it was one with caller ID handling, too, and they supplied s/w to
make it into a multi-mailbox voicemail handler and had a menu system if
I had spent a lot more time working with it... trouble was it also had
a bit of a bug, and a call from a mobile would get dropped at some very
early stage in the announcements/menu output, which was frustrating esp
as it worked OK from a landline, simply because the call was maintained
by the caller connection staying on). I bet it could be done but seems
so fragile as to risk keeping a call open for hours, while away, maybe!

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On 8 Nov 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, ub8y05w02@sneakemail.com wrote:

Difference would depend on whether it was for data or voice


There will be some charges involved, and since it was far from clear quite
waht your connection and idea was, from the original post, I felt it worth
asking a few things. Seems like you will spend (in hardware and time) for
the sake of saving a few coppers at the end of the day... much depends on
how long you would be away from home, etc, etc, etc... Good luck !!

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