Hi, I'm a UK ADSL consumer and my Netgear router dropped my ADSL
connection one evening recently. It wouldn't re-connect until I re-ran
the Setup Wizard.
I was confused to see that it re-connected using PPPoE/
LLC instead of PPPoA/VC. My ISP is bemused and offers advice like
'switch off the router for 30 minutes' (to no avail).
It won't connect if I change it manually to PPPoA/VC. All other settings
seem fine.

Has anyone seen this before and what did you do?

JohnK

JohnK wrote:
What ISP are you using? What specific router?

Do you know if you are on BTwholesale equipment or another operators?
What speed/service do you have?

If it is working, is the question academic, or you are trying to "fix" it?

"JohnK" <johnk.dev.null@gmail.com> wrote in message
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When I was with Wanadoo, I connected with PPPoE/VC
If I remember that far back, I cud connect with PPPoA/VC, but it wud be
a low synch.

Try readin your ISP's help/forum.

On 21 Apr, 13:23, JohnK <johnk.dev.n...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, go through all the settings manually, you may well find that VPI
and VCI are set incorrectly. Once these are set as appropriate
(normally 0 and 38) and all the rest (VX Mux, PPPoA) do a reboot of
the system and it should come up OK. Don't use the setup wizard, one
some Netgear models I've set up I have found it seems to detect things
incorrectly as you have found.

Regards

William MacLeod

JohnK wrote:
I had this happen on an aol account a couple of years ago following a speed
upgrade..... very odd,....

Gaz

Some time ago BT changed their equipment and now both PPPoA and PPPoE should
work.
Anyone else found that PPPoE works better ?
Regards,
Martin

On 2007-04-22, Martin² <never@give.one> wrote:
Define better? PPPoE adds 14 or 16 bytes to every packet sent over
the ADSL circuit, and drops the MTU below Ethernet's 1500 bytes.
Something else would need to be quite a bit better to make up for
this.

Dennis Ferguson

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:20:28 +0100, Paul Cupis wrote:

Nildram, Netgear Rangemax DG834PN.

Well, since my download speed has deteriorated and my ISP insists I
should be connecting via PPPoA/VC, I'm kind of assuming the two issues
are related.
I'm on an up-to-8MB service and I get a connection speed of 5540kbps, an
IP profile of 1500kbps and a download speed of 1340kbps. I would like a
lot better. I have had consistent 380KBps download speeds in the past
and I have also seen times when I got 450KBps.

I have a BT engineer scheduled for Tuesday. So I'll see what he says.

JohnK

John Kelly wrote:
This suggests you are on a BTwholesale-based service. The lower IP
Profile suggests you have had a low sync event. Your speeds are fine
based on this profile.

If you maintain that sync speed for 3 days, the exchange should increase
your IP Profile to around 5000 and your speeds should similarly increase.

Reconfiguring the router to/from PPPoA/PPPoE may well cause the Profile
to remain lower.

Having said that, yes it should work as PPPoA, but PPPoE is still a
valid way of connecting, as BTwholesale support both.

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:35:59 -0700, willie wrote:
Willie,

I did set it manually to the ISP recommended PPPoA with the correct VPI
and VCI and it failed to connect although it had been connected
previously using these settings. It now only connectS using PPPoE. I
also have a 3com router that I used to use. It still had its PPPoA
settings unchanged since it was replaced with the Netgear. It too failed
to connect till it was set to PPPoE.
I think something is going on at the exchange. But as you can imagine,
it is difficult to get any admission / information.

JohnK

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:05:11 +0100, Paul Cupis wrote:

Thanks Paul, useful information. Although you can understand how
difficult it is to leave everything alone for three days in the hope it
will improve. :-/

JohnK

In my case it would be less disconnections, i.e. coping with low SNR !
Regards,
Martin

"John Kelly" <johnk.dev.null@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Strangely enough I bought a new Netgear 834G a few weeks ago. I'm with
Pipex and to start with it would only connect via PPPoE. Once it had been
running for a few hours I thought I'd just change it to PPPoA and off it
went and connected. It's been fine ever since. Given that Pipex and
Nildram are one and the same, maybe something is being fiddled with at there
end.

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 05:35:10 -0500, John Kelly wrote:
He replaced the non-standard telecom socket with a filtered one. However
he basically said there was nothing wrong with the line. He didn't know
anything about the broadband aspect of it.

So I'm still connecting with PPPoE though my IP profile has gone up to
3000. Maybe it'll go up again in a while... </blind optimism>

Any more suggestions?