Hi,

Rather sillily I volunteered to get a friend's taltalk connection setup.
She has bought a talktalk wireless wap/router (Huawei HG520s).

I _think_ I've got wireless and ADSL all setup ok.
The ADSL trains and syncs quickly at a tad over 3M when the router is
powered up. The wireless is setup, for the moment, as "open" with MAC
filtering.

I can browse, but the web performance is "lumpy" and generally slow. Any
large page stalls. Gmail is non-functional, even though google search is
fine.

The Laptop works flawlessly (or as flawlessly as Windows XP ever does :-)
on my wireless network, and demon adsl connection.

Any advice hints at what to look at next.

cheers
Jim

Check the MTU setting on the router, possibly lower to 1492 or even 1400

tony h <me@home.com> wrote:
I'll do that. As I posted I started wondering about MTU (grey cells fading
fast). Is this a common problem? Nothing came up when I googled, so I'm
wondering - why me alone?

Jim Jackson wrote:

Your ISP's reputation.

Graham

"Jim Jackson" <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in message
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Hi Jim,

I can help you as i`ve had similar issues with my father in laws router..

Here`s some bits you need to do:-

(1). Change the MTU Value to 1400
(2). Change the MSS Value to 1432
(3). Chnage the DNS, I use http://www.opendns.com/
DNS 1:- 208.67.220.220
DNS 2:- 208.67.222.222

Then you will find all is well, I found faults with my father in laws with
MSN etc not connecting but the above it works sweet..

Full of Sugar <nobody@home.com> wrote:

I'm sure you've got those the wrong way round - MSS is usually less that
MTU.... just googled

At this site

http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/f...?TID=6892&PN=2

there is talk of the MTU being mislabelled, but no details! Maybe they got
MTU and MSS swapped? Hence your values maybe correct, given this
mislabelling.

I was round at my friends house this eve. and got some progress with MSS
set to 1392 and MTU to 1432 - figures from a talktalk tech on a
forum I found via google (but have lost the url for:-()

Managed to get into gmail (she has a gmail account), but some other sites
still had problems. Gave up till tomorrow, I'll try your suggestion,
thanks.

doing some more serious googling I've found quite a lot of people having
similar problems. It seems the hg520s often cause problems. I may just
have to get her a real wireless router, if these further MTU suggestions
fail.

thanks
Jim

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
:-) I assume one means "one's ISP's reputation". I personally wouldn't
touch talktalk with 30foot bargepole. But their cheapness seduces
people,and with mugs like me trying to sort it, talktalk must be laughing
all the way to the bank.

In uk.telecom.broadband, on Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:19:27, Jim Jackson
wrote:

AARGH!!!

Never mind, once you've taken on a task like that - install Treewalk
http://treewalkdns.com/ and the DNS issues (for that is probably all it
is) will be resolved.

--
Jim Crowther.

West London MAG: Popes Grotto, Twickenham, every Tuesday from 21:00 onwards.

"Jim Jackson" <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in message news:fgb00g$t5f$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
You can check the actual MSS requested using the "tweak test" here
http://www.dslreports.com/tweak

Jim Crowther wrote:
Ok now you've tweaked my curiosity just what does Treewalk claim to
do, been to the site & can only find fluff & very little substance.

My talktalk connection worked well for about a week then suddenly went
'stuttery'.
I found some stuff, via google, that claimed the AOL network works
best with an MTU of 1400.
Changed it and it's worked great ever since (I suspect parts of
talktalk use the AOL setup. CPW bought AOL a while ago)

Maybe I'm the only lucky one but for the price I think talktalk is
brilliant.

In uk.telecom.broadband, on Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:28:20, kráftéé wrote:

It'll be your very own local DNS - so the LAN can completely disregard
the ISP DNS. Particularly useful for those folk who use ISPs like
Talktalk or Orange, whose DNS seem to be sub-optimal. It also addresses
some DNS security issues I'm told.

It can use ICANN, ORSC or ORSN root DNS servers.

It's not IPv6 capable yet, but that shouldn't matter for most people,
perhaps forever.

DNSRU typical results below. 127.0.0.1 is Treewalk running on the local
machine, 81.187.216.89 is the router which proxies to my 'nameless' ISP.


127. 0. 0. 1 | Min | Avg | Max |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
Cached Name | 0.000 | 0.000 | 0.000 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
Uncached Name | 0.024 | 0.167 | 0.410 | 0.078 | 100.0 |
DotCom Lookup | 0.024 | 0.133 | 0.410 | 0.096 | 100.0 |
----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+

81.187.216. 89 | Min | Avg | Max |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
Cached Name | 0.023 | 0.081 | 0.202 | 0.047 | 99.0 |
Uncached Name | 0.038 | 0.201 | 0.406 | 0.080 | 99.0 |
DotCom Lookup | 0.029 | 0.151 | 0.360 | 0.074 | 99.5 |
----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+




--
Jim Crowther.

West London MAG: Popes Grotto, Twickenham, every Tuesday from 21:00 onwards.

Jim Crowther <Don't_bother@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk> wrote:
I'm pretty certain it's an MTU problem.

"Jim Jackson" <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in message
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Well, I've had TalkTalk BB for 5 months now and not had a single problem.

Started off at 1.7meg and then after LLU, a couple of months ago, went to
3meg.

Here is a speed test from a few mins ago:

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/res...5904&v=2675919

My monthly bill is always about £24 and that includes line rental, BB and
free local, national and international phone calls. The only calls I pay for
are to non geographic nos. and mobiles.

Only negative is they don't have a news server.

So, it's been a great move for me but I do accept they had an horrendous
time at the start.

and they say 'care in the community' isnt working....

On Nov 1, 11:12 am, "tony h" <m...@home.com> wrote:
Hi

I had the same problems you guys talk about, changed the MTU and MSS
value as described above, google mail works, and I can send
attachments...

Farhad