Hi
What are the pros and cons of Tiscali broadband please?
Is their service reliable?
Do they do newsgroups?
Thank you
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Martin
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Pros: Cheap. I pay £15 pm including 2Mb BB, phone line rental and free
weekend UK/International calls. Free modem. 12 month contract as opposed to
TalkTalk's 18 month. No reliability problems since I joined in September.
Newsgroups via news.tiscali.co.uk.
Cons: £30 setup fee. 0871 number for support calls - even BT line faults.
Haven't been able to find a way around this on saynoto0870.com. Email
support often refers me to the 0871 number.


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"Jessica B" <spam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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By contrast: Zen

Pros:
Superb technical support
Reasonable cost: £18 per month with 2Gb per month download limit (you can
pay extra if you want more, as and when you need it). Or unlimited download
if you choose the 250 kbits/sec line speed.
Static IP address
Your own choice of router
1 month minimum contract
No confusion with telephone calls - you pay for line rental and phone calls
separately, from whoever you choose.
Newsgroups from news.zen.co.uk
Support on 0845 number, and they ring you back to check progress of any
faults
Painless transfer to new location when you move house - provided the new
property already has a phone line.

Cons: £40 setup fee

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:24:37 UTC, "Graham J" <graham@nospam.zen.co.uk>
wrote:

Very similar to AAISP. As another data point:

Same.

£18.99 a month for 2GB limit, applies only 0800-1800 weekdays (free at
other times and over Christmas). Can pay extra if go over one month.

As many static IPs as you need - free. Also free .uk domain name.

Same again - or free loan of router.

Same.

Same. Can provide a no-calls phone line to use, if required.

Newsgroups from gradwell.com

Support on geographic number.

Likewise.

About the same - may be slightly more. There will generally be a setup
fee if a short term contract is offered.

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:57:23 -0000, Jessica B wrote:
Their news-server is known to be unreliable.


AFAIK the setup fee only applies if you choose a package with included line
rental.


Christof

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Bob Eager wrote:

You can talk to IDNet's support on their FREE 08000 number !

Graham

Nena Fan wrote:
:-)

A ping is typically around a 56byte packet: so a ping return down a 1mbs
line is about the time to send 1000 bits.. about a millisecond..

Propagation delay will not be anything like that.. a 3km line is 90usecs
each way, so under 200us for the round trip.

Thank you for your replies
I'll stay away from tiscali
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Just heard today that Tiscali are upgrading my *2Mb* BB to *8Mb* in January
for free.

Jess

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"Nena Fan" <nena_fan99@nena.invalid> wrote in message
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Tiscali are currently blocking Usenet traffic at various times in the
evening
check out my (Usenet User) posts in this web-forum, I don't know if
it's only "selected" Tiscali who are affected.
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/forums/show...2&page=4&pp=15

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<Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net> wrote in message
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pros - relatively inexpensive
cons -crap.
reliability -poor
n/g sometimes, for some people, so long as you dont make use of the groups.

dlszone.co.uk for longer answers

In uk.telecom.broadband, on Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:24:04, Graham. wrote:

new.individual.net (text-only groups, long-ish retention) allow use of
port 8119 - so you can give two fingers to Tiscali if you use UseNet for
that it was originally intended.

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Jim Crowther wrote:

Depending how they manage traffic that may not help if it's nntp that's
being restricted.

Graham

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:47:25 +0000, Eeyore wrote in
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In another ng, someone who couldn't use 119 in the evenings *was* able to
use 8119 when connected with Tiscali. So it must be a port block rather
than one on NNTP in general.

MikeT wrote:

This is the trouble with all this traffic management stuff.

Best advice is to avoid all ISPs that use it.

Graham