Billy wrote:

According to that report an 'entry level' broadband connection costs £14.50 pcm. That's clearly not so.

Ignoring the so-called 'free' ones, you can still get broadband for ~ £10.

And 'low cost' US broadband may only be 768kbps....
http://www.verizon.net/

3Mbps costs rougly the equivalent of £12.50
http://www22.verizon.com/content/con.../all+plans.htm


And don't expect to be able to download GBs every day either !

" Verizon Wireless proudly boasts that its wireless "BroadbandAccess" service is "unlimited." But Verizon's definition of
unlimited may not match consumers' expectations, as those who use the service extensively quickly learn.

..... when consumers use this service like they would any other broadband connection, Verizon cancels the account.
ConsumerAffairs.Com discovered this when Verizon, with very little warning, cancelled our account.

"We found that your usage over the past 30 days exceeded 10 Gigabytes. This level of usage is so extraordinarily high that it
could only have been attained by activities, such as streaming and/or downloading movies and video, prohibited by the terms and
conditions," Verizon said in a terse letter. "

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...unlimited.html

Graham

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:41:55 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

It's not just about cost, it's about service as well. You try telling
a yank he needs to use an 0870/09 number to get support and he'll take
you out!

Brian wrote:

My ISP's support (Idnet) is available on a freephone number. :~)

Idnet's average score for last month at thinkbroadband.com was 87%. I don't recall having seen such a high rating before.

Graham

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Unless you're involved (whether professionally or otherwise) in
media-related projects - for example, making a movie with your mates and
needing to legitimately share video/audio files (that they have NO reason to
assume breach any copyright regulations.)

Guilty until you can prove you're innocent. Nice...

"Marcus Redd" <read@it.com> wrote in message
news:469dff1a$0$10518$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
The text quoted by Eeyore is from Verizon ... a US ISP.
Could you just remind us all again what you were mumbling about regards UK
ISPs and how you think we're hard done by.
Either that or put the spade down ... the hole is deep enough

"Gizmo." <spammers@suck.die> wrote in message
news:CQoni.13890$IT3.12377@newsfet07.ams...
Sigh... Captain Gizmo speaks. I think I'll have to fire up the old KF just
for you... byeeeee!

"Gizmo." wrote:

I find it interesting that Verizon considers neither streaming nor P2P to be
legitimate uses of a broadband connection.

I've yet to see any UK ISP take that attitude.

The grass most certainly ISN'T always greener elsewhere.

Graham

"Marcus Redd" <read@it.com> wrote in message
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It's irrelevant to the discussion whether the OP is breaking copyright or
not. It doesn't matter *what* the connection is used *for* - it only
matters that a connection described as "UNlimited" isn't.

I don't condone illegal activity, of course, but just because someone is
using their connection at a considerably higher rate than average doesn't
mean they're doing anything wrong.

Therefore the statement "This level of usage is so extraordinarily high
that it could only have been attained by activities, such as streaming
and/or downloading movies and video, prohibited by the terms and
conditions," is a load of crap and should be treated as such, along with
the company that made it.

Indeed.

Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:5g776fF3e4g1nU1@mid.individual.net...
That's not at all the case....the quote only mentions d/loading movies or
streaming video and says that is against the terms and conditions, it says
nothing as to whether those d/loads were in Breach of Copyright or not. So
the statement only says that their terms and conditions have been
broken....nothing else. So rather than Guilty until proved innocent it's
possibly Guilty because we have the evidence.

As for your claim that all that counts is a claimed unlimited connected
being limited.....i've not read any of Verizons ads to know if they claim
unlimited or not...i suspect the same is true for you. Where,in what was
quoted, does it say the persons concerned connection was unlimited?. It
doesn't say anything either way. So unless you know what their offer was to
that customer you can't say that they claimed unlimited and didn't supply
it.

Daffy Duck wrote:

Neither do I .

However what it does how is that US broadband providers (well Verizon at least)
are less generous than UK ones.

We just had a post from someone moaning about being kicked off not for d/ling
10GB but 184GB !!!

Graham

"Billy" <george@dragonsheed.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Answered in an earlier post

"Marcus Redd" <read@it.com> wrote in message
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Lol !! )

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:469E3CB1.940FEE16@hotmail.com...
I'm guessing it's because they run their own multimedia over IP services
over broadband and mobile (via Vodafone - a major shareholder). And thus
would rather their customers pay for their offical content.

UK ISPs will be launching their own services over the next 12-24 months. I'm
guessing that P2P will suddenly start "slowing down" as certain ports
mysteriously become throttled ;o)

I always smile when the yanks start banging the "its so cheap in the US"
drum )
I've lived in Seattle and Chicago, and used to fly back to the UK for any
medical or dental treatment. The airfare plus treatment charges still used
to work out far cheaper than having the same treatment locally.

"Gizmo." <spammers@suck.die> wrote in message
news:57Hni.3381$Xk5.2626@newsfet03.ams...
It works that way here too.
A mate of mine wants a missing tooth replaced by a dental implant.
He's done a bit of research and found that he can get the job done cheaper -
and just as good - by flying from UK to Turkey and seeing a specialist
there.

George