I would very much like to be able to connect and ADSL router like the
Vigor 2600V or similar to my telephone switchboard.

The problem I see is that the POTS port is designed to accept a normal
phone where the user lifts the handset and dials the call.

I can connect the port to my switchboard but can only call it - i.e.
provide a ring tone but not simulate picking up the receiver.

Can anyone think of a way to do this.

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Where you would normaly plug in the handset you connect this port to a trunk
on the PBX and if possible configure this as a DISA trunk, that way when you
pick up that line you get dial tone from the router and incomming calls will
get internal dial tone. or if you cant st up disa the designated phone on
the system will ring.

You may clear down problems though.

Ian

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In article <32tcgfF3pjosmU1@individual.net>, Ian
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request clearly.

I want to be able to make outgoing calls via the switchboard. Say the
VoIP port is connected to an extension on the switchboard. I would want
to call that extension in the hope that it would somehow answer and
allow a call to be dialled.

This would achieve two things.

1. I can make VoIP calls from any extension on the switchboard.

2. I could put an option on my software ansaphone to switch an incoming
call through to this extension to forward the call to an IP address of
my choice.
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It should just work as a pbx essentially acts in the same way as a phone
does. I'm assuming the vigor will generate ringing and the pbx will then do
whatever it has been programmed to do for that trunk - its designed to
interface with pots.
For outgoing you will pick that line and it will provide you with dial tone.

If connecting to an extention, as I do currently with a premicell it is only
sutiable for outgoing calls (because its orange everyphone gets around the
caller id causing incoming problem). When someone calls in they will simply
get internal dial tone.

It shouldn't really be a problem though? Are you trying to get someone at
home \ remote office as part of your switchboard able to use calling
packages \ dial out as if at the same location etc.

I belive I read that two vigors could be programmed to automatically dial
each other - i.e if I connected a vigor to ext 21 on my pbx and a vigor the
other end with a phone plugged in I would be able to get calls the same as I
do at the moment with ext 21 on my desk at home. I would assume that it
could work the other way as well that as soon as I lift the voip handset it
would connect to the other vigor via the net and I get internal dial tone.

I think there are some good diagrams on the draytex website that go into all
this. I think there are two different types of the 2600V FXO? and
something - similar to the way on a premicell there is a trunk and extention
option, basically the extention option has to at the very least (without the
autodialling as it were) answer calls automatically when called.

....hmm not sure that made sense.

Regards,
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extension.

Connecting the Vigor as a line sounds promising.

I now understand Ian's earlier post - sorry Ian for being thick.

would like to configure my IVM Answering Attendant to give a caller the
option to forward the call (I may be abroad at the end of an ADSL line
fitted with a matching Vigor).

IVM has the capability to put the call on hold and forward it to an
extension (untested). I think it puts the call on hold, dials a preset
sequence and hangs up. The switchboard then transfers the call.

Some switchboards have the capability to transfer to an outside line but
I think that mine (Panasonic DBS) can only do internal transfer. So I
think the Vigor connected as a line will not support this requirement.

their on-line support is very fussy - you have to enter the equipment
S/N before you can post.

Maybe I will try their sales email address.

Thanks for your help.

How do I know I can trust that message
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http://www.draytek.com/english/produ...plications.php

http://www.seg.co.uk/products/a_vigor2600v.html also

I belive that the one you need for extentions is FXO? - so to build the
perfect system you need FXO plugged into extentions and FXS the other end.
They seem to have taken all mention of it off the website now (seg.co.uk),
it was listed as coming soon when I last looked I think.

Please don't take what I say as gospel though.

Regards,

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There is a reference to a future version of the 2600 with a FXS port.
Wouldn't you be better with a multi FXS port gateway at the switchboard end,
so that multiple users can be supported?

Any multi-port device with FXS ports can connect to an analogue extension.
Make sure that your equipment supports recall signalling or you won't be
able to transfer calls or use PBX features.

In article <41cac2f2$0$55763$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>,
Albrow SJ <news.stn1_homenet1@homenet.f9.co.uk> Thu, 23 Dec 2004
13:07:07 writes

rather than extension.

[..]
Anyone know of a router that also has a FXO port as well as a FXS?
At this time of year?

Thinking about this further it may be worth investing in a Panasonic
KX-TA624 CCU at £290+VAT trade and installing it in some way in parallel
to my existing switchboard. That has the capability to forward calls
from extension to outside line.


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In article <10sm3ponindu8d4@corp.supernews.com>, Jim <no-one@here.net>
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:36:11 writes

I thought the 2600V has two FXS ports

That was just the point of my question - will a normal
extension-to-extension blind transfer work if the Vigor FXS port is
connected to an extension port of the switchboard. My understanding was
that the answer is no.
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Les Desser wrote:

Not a router, but the Sipura 3000 ATA does (or will have, not sure if
they are available yet) both ...

Andy Burns wrote:
They are, I have one. Not had a chance to do a lot of testing yet, but
it does work!

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Kennard <`@o.gg> Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:57:18 writes

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It does, but if you wanted to basically make two voip connected phones part
of your pbx system then you would need an FXO Vigor switchboard end (that
lets you plug into extention). It really depends if you are trying to do
this, or if your aim is to use voip as an alternative to a pots line and
make calls to anyone.

The main issue is that an FXS device will not answer when called from inside
the pbx? and that your effectivly sending ring current the wrong way when
you call it?

I'm very confused now though.

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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:44:08 +0000, Les Desser wrote:


you're effectively trying to connect two exchanges ("offices" in
the jargon) together. you can't do that by having both ends thinking
they're connected to a handset ("station" in jargon). "FXO" and "FXS"
stand for "Foreign eXchange Office" and "Foreign eXchange Station". an FXO
card is for connecting to and "office" (exchange) and an FXS card is for
connecting to a "station" (e.g. a handset or a pbx FXO port).

for more info on this, have a look at:

http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/...html/x522.html

it's also worth having a look at asterisk - http://www.asterisk.org .
asterisk is a free PBX that runs on linux. naturally, if you're not
already using linux (or even if you are), the technical side of it would
take some getting to grips with. whether it's worth it to you would depend
on your current and future needs. but the possibility of scrapping the
need for separate phone cabling and running computer and phone network
over ethernet could be extremely attractive.

we really need a uk.telecom.voip newsgroup, i think! anyone know how you
go about getting that set up?

will

In MsgID<pan.2004.12.25.09.54.00.545358@xxxx.swaggie. net> within
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Put out some feelers, like this one, and ask if there are other interested
subscribers. Once you are sure there are, subscribe to uk.net.news.config
and (either) ask for help or dive straight in by having a look at Geoff
Berrow's RFD (request for discussion) maker which will deal with the
formalities for such a document.

Not difficult provided it has been thought about and discussed amongst the
interested parties. If you still feel insecure there is an organisation
called UK Mentors which will provide one to one help.

I'm currently being dragged out of the door to go look at the snow and
some cute furry beasties at the local park, otherwise I'd go look up the
relevant URLs, back later.

Post if you'd like further pointers but there is not much to it, in theory
it can be fast tracked through with little bother.

Happy Festie

Dave J.

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<will@xxxx.swaggie.net> Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:53:04 writes

Thanks -

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15:56:03 writes

But is there such a product? As far as I can see The 2600V is FXS. Is
there an other product or an add-on?

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On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:53:04 GMT, will kemp <will@xxxx.swaggie.net>
strung together this:

not neccesary.
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This is the issue, originally apparently there was going to be, can't find
mention of it now which is a bummer.

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23:48:37 writes

Did a Google on "2600V FXO" and found

<http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...ryID=853&Produ
ctID=853&ShopGroupID=12>

Quote from there
==========
FXO mode
In the previous examples, we showed a standard telephone being connected
to the Vigor2600V; this is known as FXS mode. A version of the
Vigor2600V will be available supporting another mode, called FXO mode,
whereby instead of providing a telephone output, it provides an analogue
line input - i.e. a standard analogue line coming into your home/office
or an extension off a PBX, can plug directly into the Vigor2600V, thus
providing a gateway from the PSTN into your VOIP network.
==========

I suppose we just wait.

But..

<http://bobas.se/shop/shop/item.asp?itemid=13&catid=26>
==========
Highlights of VoIP Functions
� FXS or FXO interface
� Industrial standard protocols
� Versatile dsp chip
� Toll-quality voice
� Security Phone
� SLIC support FXS interface
� DAA support FXO interface
� Keep low cost and expand flexibility
==========

What does "FXS or FXO interface" mean?

Finally from

<http://www.draytek.com/english/suppo.../faq/voip/12.p
hp>
==========
FXO (Foreign Exchange Office)
This interface allows the VoIP device to be connected to an analog PBX
extension or PSTN line. The 2600V DAA module will support up to two
analogue connections to the Public Switched Telephone Network (PSTN), or
PBX, providing a PSTN/PBX gateway for IP networks.
==========

Are we any the wiser? Is the support already there or will it come in
an other model, or what?

I have sent an email to support@draytek.com - we will see what happens.
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