Any help with these bugs, either causes or solutions?

1610 Presario 80mb ram.


system freezes requiring hard reboot when touchpad cursor is moved at same
time as keystroke. win98se system reports no conflicts. hardware
acceleration already set to lowest.

battery and system interaction very screwy. can never tell if juice in
batter and system seems to enter sleep mode even when there is juice in
battery. battery gauge makes no sense. reports 100% and system will shut
down in 2 min.

cd controls at the top do not work; finally how do you control speaker
volume on this laptop?

An oldie. It shipped with Win 95. Have you installed the Win 98 drivers off
the HP website? specifically the touchpad driver?
IIRC, volume control is available both in Windows via the vol control and
with Fn keys.

HH

"henry" <henry@hedgehog.com> wrote in message news:ens6fk$1dm$1@aioe.org...

An oldie. It shipped with Win 95. Have you installed the Win 98 drivers off
the HP website? specifically the touchpad driver?
IIRC, volume control is available both in Windows via the vol control and
with Fn keys.

HH

"henry" <henry@hedgehog.com> wrote in message news:ens6fk$1dm$1@aioe.org...

henry wrote:


Battery is just plain worn out. It's an age of system thing.



Anyway, here are a few things to try.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...520 4&lang=en

For the Keyboard/touchpad

Compaq Notebooks Synaptics Touchpad Driver

I think I'd get the 1998 version vs the 2002, for this one.

For the Keyboard/Battery:

Presario 1200/1600/1700/1800/1900 Battery Controller/KBC
Firmware Update


For the CD controls

Presario 1200/1600 Specific Models Fix for CD Controls
(DisqPlay)

For a few other things
Presario 1600 Specific Models System ROM Update

If you're stuck on dialup, you might as well get 56K

Presario Specific Models Modem Driver V.90 Upgrade

henry wrote:


Battery is just plain worn out. It's an age of system thing.



Anyway, here are a few things to try.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...520 4&lang=en

For the Keyboard/touchpad

Compaq Notebooks Synaptics Touchpad Driver

I think I'd get the 1998 version vs the 2002, for this one.

For the Keyboard/Battery:

Presario 1200/1600/1700/1800/1900 Battery Controller/KBC
Firmware Update


For the CD controls

Presario 1200/1600 Specific Models Fix for CD Controls
(DisqPlay)

For a few other things
Presario 1600 Specific Models System ROM Update

If you're stuck on dialup, you might as well get 56K

Presario Specific Models Modem Driver V.90 Upgrade

Done right all these updates will fix your problems. BTW even though Compaq
and the manual says 80mb is max it will take 128mb ram.
Bob


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Done right all these updates will fix your problems. BTW even though Compaq
and the manual says 80mb is max it will take 128mb ram.
Bob


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I've got them, but afraid to use them, knowing compaq.
Using ps/2 driver that came with 98se


Doesn't work last time I checked(might work now that I upgraded to se,
will have to try). Also talking about the cd switches up not
working-these still don't work.

"HH" <hahunt42@va.metrocast.net> wrote in
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I've got them, but afraid to use them, knowing compaq.
Using ps/2 driver that came with 98se


Doesn't work last time I checked(might work now that I upgraded to se,
will have to try). Also talking about the cd switches up not
working-these still don't work.

paulmd@efn.org wrote in
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I know.

Battery was hardly ever used, mostly kept out of machine. I think their
battery controller design is faulty.



Have you actually installed any of these on an win98se presario. Do they
even install properly and work? Frankly I don't trust compaq and I don't
trust HP.



Don't need the modem using wireless. None of the descriptions for these
various firmware upgrades state anything about the problems I've
mentioned in the OP. So why does everyone seem to think they will apply?

paulmd@efn.org wrote in
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I know.

Battery was hardly ever used, mostly kept out of machine. I think their
battery controller design is faulty.



Have you actually installed any of these on an win98se presario. Do they
even install properly and work? Frankly I don't trust compaq and I don't
trust HP.



Don't need the modem using wireless. None of the descriptions for these
various firmware upgrades state anything about the problems I've
mentioned in the OP. So why does everyone seem to think they will apply?

"Bob" <bobpa10017@yahoo.com> wrote in news:HLzoh.2269$Br.868@trndny08:

Thanks, but none of the descriptors for these various firmware upgrades
lists any of the problems I posted about as being a fix for.

Have you actually installed any of these on a win98se presario and know
first hand they install properly and work? After my experiences with
Presario I am no longer a fan of either Compaq, nor HP.

On the Ram, can you explain you managed that, since there is only one
slot for memory expansion and the manual says 80MB tops?

"Bob" <bobpa10017@yahoo.com> wrote in news:HLzoh.2269$Br.868@trndny08:

Thanks, but none of the descriptors for these various firmware upgrades
lists any of the problems I posted about as being a fix for.

Have you actually installed any of these on a win98se presario and know
first hand they install properly and work? After my experiences with
Presario I am no longer a fan of either Compaq, nor HP.

On the Ram, can you explain you managed that, since there is only one
slot for memory expansion and the manual says 80MB tops?

Yes I did install all of these updates and they did work. On the RAM Compaq
states that the installed memory is not removable but it is and will take
two 64mb modules. It makes it a faster computer and more stable.
Bob



"henry" <henry@hedgehog.com> wrote in message news:eo3lla$vt1$2@aioe.org...

Yes I did install all of these updates and they did work. On the RAM Compaq
states that the installed memory is not removable but it is and will take
two 64mb modules. It makes it a faster computer and more stable.
Bob



"henry" <henry@hedgehog.com> wrote in message news:eo3lla$vt1$2@aioe.org...

henry wrote:
They rarely list anything. It's really annoying.


Not on your exact model , but on similar models, i've found out that
firmware updates very often DO resolve problems.

Since I work at a computer refurbisher and recycler, I often receive
machines that have been given up on by at least 1 technician. Therefor,
i have to look for things that are often missed. Firmware is on that
list. It can make all the difference.

You listed several separate problems, perhaps not all are solvable this
way, but the odds are good that at least one of these firmware updates
will work. And it is the least-cost solution.

Once all the updates are applied, check again to see what problems are
remaining. We can work on those.

If it's NOT just firmware, it's a hardware problem. Which means opening
up the machine, reseating the keyboard connector, diagnosing ram and
hard drive, that sort of thing. But because of the age of your machine,
getting spare parts is often too expensive to be worthwhile.

henry wrote:
They rarely list anything. It's really annoying.


Not on your exact model , but on similar models, i've found out that
firmware updates very often DO resolve problems.

Since I work at a computer refurbisher and recycler, I often receive
machines that have been given up on by at least 1 technician. Therefor,
i have to look for things that are often missed. Firmware is on that
list. It can make all the difference.

You listed several separate problems, perhaps not all are solvable this
way, but the odds are good that at least one of these firmware updates
will work. And it is the least-cost solution.

Once all the updates are applied, check again to see what problems are
remaining. We can work on those.

If it's NOT just firmware, it's a hardware problem. Which means opening
up the machine, reseating the keyboard connector, diagnosing ram and
hard drive, that sort of thing. But because of the age of your machine,
getting spare parts is often too expensive to be worthwhile.

I forgot to answer the question you asked.

Once you start really fixing pcs, and have to hunt down drivers, and
bios updates in particular, you find out that manufacturers rarely
fully document changes. Or only list changes since the previous
revision. Sometimes you just have to try the updates anyway, because
they help often enough. And, your diagnosis becomes simpler. You can at
the very least scratch one item off the list. It's quicker than
ordering new parts (and, particularly, on laptops, because they can be
so fragile, safer than changing them out [actual risk of a firmware
update going wrong and rendering your computer into a boat anchor is
low, most rom update programs have a measure of protection against this
anyway, where you can at least boot a floppy, and re-flash]), this can
save you time, and therefor, your customer's money.


In your case, the alternate diagnosis reads.

"replace keyboard, motherboard, and/or battery"

If you just want an excuse to buy a new laptop, use the alternate
diagnosis to persuade whoever else may have a say in the matter .

I forgot to answer the question you asked.

Once you start really fixing pcs, and have to hunt down drivers, and
bios updates in particular, you find out that manufacturers rarely
fully document changes. Or only list changes since the previous
revision. Sometimes you just have to try the updates anyway, because
they help often enough. And, your diagnosis becomes simpler. You can at
the very least scratch one item off the list. It's quicker than
ordering new parts (and, particularly, on laptops, because they can be
so fragile, safer than changing them out [actual risk of a firmware
update going wrong and rendering your computer into a boat anchor is
low, most rom update programs have a measure of protection against this
anyway, where you can at least boot a floppy, and re-flash]), this can
save you time, and therefor, your customer's money.


In your case, the alternate diagnosis reads.

"replace keyboard, motherboard, and/or battery"

If you just want an excuse to buy a new laptop, use the alternate
diagnosis to persuade whoever else may have a say in the matter .