Although I have used desktops since my first P286, I know nothing about
laptops.

I'm looking for something around $1000. Nothing fancy. I need it for
traveling. Emailing, watching DVD's, and a little surfing.

Any ideas what I should look at? Name brands, off brands? What brands
should I stay away from?

Thanks ahead of time,

Kenny Jay

I bought an Apple Powerbook ( my first Apple since my ][e ) for those very
uses. Out of all of my computers (laptops & desktops) it's my favorite.
Furthermore, it's the best computer I've ever owned. That's just my
opinion, YMMV. Good luck!

Bill
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Stay away from no-name/off-brand laptops. Instead, take a look at inexpensive brand
name laptops from IBM, Toshiba, Dell, Gateway, etc. For instance, take a peek at the
IBM eBay store - they sell brand new machines (esp. the R series) pretty
inexpensively.
http://www.stores.ebay.com/ibmauthor...pt1/index.html

Hi,

Do you mean to say the notebooks sold by X Technology,
etc are not dependable/good ?
I'm also planning to buy a low-cost notebook.
So, curious about comments from veterans.

Regards
Rex

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"conn60h" <conn60h@visi.com> wrote:
One possibility: http://www.averatec.com/notebooks/index.html

Hi Ian,

I find they are offering an R40 with
Celeron 1.6 GHz for 969 USD,
when IBM web site offeres R40
with Celeron 1.8 Ghz for 849 USD.

Do you have any deal experience with these guys ?
Just trying to understand how reliable/trustworthy they are.

Regards
Rex

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Hi Rex,
I'll know better when my T22 arrives. ;-) Good communication so far with an
email when my order was processed, one when it shipped along with a
clickable UPS tracking number. I ordered on the July 4th weekend and it
shipped late the following Monday.
Ian

crsiler@cs.wmich.edu (adias angel) wrote in message news:<a8c9588e.0307090507.1b4be93a@posting.google. com>...
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No, not exactly. Well, it is correct that nowadays many name brand
machines are more or less based on such generic designs, which mostly
come from a couple of Taiwanese manufacturers. This is due to the fact
that even quality manufacturers are urged to offer inexpensive
machines in the low- and mid-price range and are only able to realize
that via such cooperations. In the expensive machines, of course, the
name brand manufacturers still integrate very much of their own
experience and technology.

But, and this is a big 'but', you still *cannot* say that although
noname and name brand laptops may come from the same ODM, thus looking
exactly the same and having roughly the same specs, are identical. It
is well known that such ODMs offer one and the same design in
different production qualities for different prices. And you can be
relatively sure that machines that end with a name tag on them are not
of the lowest quality you could expect from the respective ODM.

The same is also true for the OEM business. Remember Acer. Acer was
notorious for its poor quality, but the stuff they produced for IBM
was O.K.

The reputable German IT magazine "c't" once published a very
knowledgeable article on that subject which might be of interest to
anyone who is able to understand that language and wants to get a
basic idea of what the ODM/OEM business is all about (cf. the section
"Geschichten von 1001 Notebook-Herstellern" in particular for the
relevant info). At the end of this document there is also a table that
sheds some light on the relationships of specific name brands and
their OEM's/ODM's (please note that 'Wistron' is the former OEM/ODM
branch of Acer, which changed its name since Acer decided to become a
superficially independent 'name brand'):

<http://www.heise.de/ct/02/17/128/>.

After all, I agree very much with what TJ has contributed. Provided
that I did not depend on the latest technology, I'd always prefer an
older quality machine over a seemingly superior and more up-to-date
noname bargain.


Best,
Monty

600x's will take an 80GB HD, and max out at 576MB(256+256+64). And with 4MB
vidram(not all that much, but adequate for the cost)

Masters of the Upgrade frequent this and ibm.ibmpc.thinkpad .ng's. Moreso on
the thinkpad .ng tho.... I've done a bunch upgrades on 600's and 770's..
bumping plain 200/233mhz up to 400mhz(the limit with MMC1 cpu's) and maxing out
at 288MB RAM. Just ask around there for help.

As to the 850 for the 600X, yeah, thats the fastest cpu it'll take, bus speed
and form factor(MMC-2 cpu).

Good luck..

TJ

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adias angel wrote:
Name brands rip-off? I've been burned by no-name more often than brand name.
Brand name are LESS likely to make junk, as they want thier name to carry on.
No-name stuff(um remember GRID?) disappears and so does their support.

I'll buy Big Blue before anything else.

TJ
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All I know is that I LOVE! my chembook. And the dealer I bought it
from has done more to make sure im happy (discountlaptops.com)than HP,
Dell or Gateway ever has. You have to do you research on not only the
product but also the dealer. My next laptop will be purchased again
from discountlaptops.
Carla

Now that's dumb! You can buy a new Dell 1100 for $749 today! why buy
a slower, older, used laptop for $700?

"David Chien" <chiendh@uci.edu> wrote in message
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Nice comparison of apples and oranges. The Dell 1100 is a desktop
replacement weighing in at between 7.22 lbs and 7.78 lbs depending on
configuration. The IBM T22 is for road warriors and weighs only 5.3 lbs and
with its ultrabay removable components, as little as 4.7 lbs for traveling.
The refurbished T22 unit comes with a 1 yr factory warranty the same as the
Dell. Now, the Dell Inspirion 600M may be a more apt comparison (weights are
comparable) but it's $1299 after rebate for the 1.3 GHZ version. So for $600
more, you get a brand new unit, a faster processor, 128MB additional RAM,
the home version of XP and wireless miniPCI. The T22 comes with Win2K Pro
and MS Office included. MS Office for the Dell is an extra $130.

If there is an "\I386" folder, back that up to a CD, it's effectively a
Windows restore CD.


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