Unfortunately, you don't have time to learn now. And neither could a
tech really teach you in a reasonable amount of time (or at a reasonable
cost, if he's being paid). Also, there is the possibility that the
drive is just dead, and that no one could get it to work ... e.g. you
might not be doing anything wrong.


rantr13@yahoo.com wrote:

rantr13@yahoo.com wrote:

Effectively same as the external drive box you already tried. Waste of
money for what you need.

So when you have it plugged in on the IDE cable on Secondary channel its
not recognized at all. Do you know if drive is still good? Ship it off
to a volunteer in this newsgroup and if its still good they will pull of
your data.

What for. If PC cant see it then laptop won't.
Doesn't make sense.
Mail it to me and if the drive is stil functional I will pull off all
your data and mail back to you on CDs. Will even take drive as payment.

Ian Singer

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rantr13@yahoo.com wrote:

Effectively same as the external drive box you already tried. Waste of
money for what you need.

So when you have it plugged in on the IDE cable on Secondary channel its
not recognized at all. Do you know if drive is still good? Ship it off
to a volunteer in this newsgroup and if its still good they will pull of
your data.

What for. If PC cant see it then laptop won't.
Doesn't make sense.
Mail it to me and if the drive is stil functional I will pull off all
your data and mail back to you on CDs. Will even take drive as payment.

Ian Singer

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I'll try what you suggest by unplugging all other devices on the
secondary cable.

But, no, with the pin present, the female PC IDE cable automatically
keeps the male adapter from being plugged in with a piece of plastic
blocking it. Look in the middle of an IDE cable female plug. Nearly
all IDE females have the piece of plastic blocking in the middle where
the missing pin should be.

So if the male adapter plugs in to the female IDE cable then you broke
off the correct pin.

I'm going try unplugging all secondary cables.

However, I expect to get some "Can't find...." error messages while
doing so.

We'll see.




Barry Watzman wrote:

I'll try what you suggest by unplugging all other devices on the
secondary cable.

But, no, with the pin present, the female PC IDE cable automatically
keeps the male adapter from being plugged in with a piece of plastic
blocking it. Look in the middle of an IDE cable female plug. Nearly
all IDE females have the piece of plastic blocking in the middle where
the missing pin should be.

So if the male adapter plugs in to the female IDE cable then you broke
off the correct pin.

I'm going try unplugging all secondary cables.

However, I expect to get some "Can't find...." error messages while
doing so.

We'll see.




Barry Watzman wrote:

I'll try what you suggest by unplugging all other devices on the
secondary cable.

But, no, with the pin present, the female PC IDE cable automatically
keeps the male adapter from being plugged in with a piece of plastic
blocking it. Look in the middle of an IDE cable female plug. Nearly
all IDE females have the piece of plastic blocking in the middle where
the missing pin should be.

So if the male adapter plugs in to the female IDE cable then you broke
off the correct pin.

I'm going try unplugging all secondary cables.

However, I expect to get some "Can't find...." error messages while
doing so.

We'll see.




Barry Watzman wrote:

I'll try what you suggest by unplugging all other devices on the
secondary cable.

But, no, with the pin present, the female PC IDE cable automatically
keeps the male adapter from being plugged in with a piece of plastic
blocking it. Look in the middle of an IDE cable female plug. Nearly
all IDE females have the piece of plastic blocking in the middle where
the missing pin should be.

So if the male adapter plugs in to the female IDE cable then you broke
off the correct pin.

I'm going try unplugging all secondary cables.

However, I expect to get some "Can't find...." error messages while
doing so.

We'll see.




Barry Watzman wrote:

Tried it all night long.

Again ! Another all nighter.

I even put the laptop drive in the Master Drive cable just to see what
would happen but it said it was missing a system file and to put in
Windows Recovery disc in and press R.
I did that and never succeeded in recovering the problem.
'
I just don't understand why it onjce worked when I first put it in this
particular computer.

And now it won't work at all.

It creates a drive for the hard drive whether in the USB adapter or on
the IDE cable but that's as far as it it gets. It never reads the
drive.

Yet Device Manager says it's working perfectly.

I don't know if the Bios is rejecting it for some reason or what.

Why would it work in the beginning and after 30 minutes, reject it and
never let it read again.

There has just got to be some way to retrieve the files off this
computer.
Truthfully I am only after about 5 or 6 crucial files that are
irreplaceable.
the rest I don't care about.

And I am to the point of paying almost anything to get the files.

But because of the contents on the drive involving personal files, I
have to be the one to do it.
Not a tech.

See the bind I am in?



rantr13@yahoo.com wrote:

Tried it all night long.

Again ! Another all nighter.

I even put the laptop drive in the Master Drive cable just to see what
would happen but it said it was missing a system file and to put in
Windows Recovery disc in and press R.
I did that and never succeeded in recovering the problem.
'
I just don't understand why it onjce worked when I first put it in this
particular computer.

And now it won't work at all.

It creates a drive for the hard drive whether in the USB adapter or on
the IDE cable but that's as far as it it gets. It never reads the
drive.

Yet Device Manager says it's working perfectly.

I don't know if the Bios is rejecting it for some reason or what.

Why would it work in the beginning and after 30 minutes, reject it and
never let it read again.

There has just got to be some way to retrieve the files off this
computer.
Truthfully I am only after about 5 or 6 crucial files that are
irreplaceable.
the rest I don't care about.

And I am to the point of paying almost anything to get the files.

But because of the contents on the drive involving personal files, I
have to be the one to do it.
Not a tech.

See the bind I am in?



rantr13@yahoo.com wrote:

That's because you have a polarized cable. Most cables for desktop IDE
drives are not polarized (e.g. most cables have all holes open). Your
statement that "Nearly all IDE females have the piece of plastic
blocking in the middle" is incorrect. Many do, but most do not.



rantr13@yahoo.com wrote:

That's because you have a polarized cable. Most cables for desktop IDE
drives are not polarized (e.g. most cables have all holes open). Your
statement that "Nearly all IDE females have the piece of plastic
blocking in the middle" is incorrect. Many do, but most do not.



rantr13@yahoo.com wrote:

RE: "it said it was missing a system file and to put in Windows Recovery
disc in and press R. I did that and ..."

With all due respect, you don't learn very well.

You don't want to actually do ***ANYTHING*** to this drive EXCEPT read
it and recover the files by copying them to another drive. By
attempting to boot from it, you have made matters WORSE, you have
DECREASED your chances of ever recovering ANYTHING.

STOP "DOING THINGS" to the drive! The drive is apparently damaged,
although the damage may be either actually physical or only to the data
structure (e.g. a low-level format could fix the drive, but all data
would be permanently and irretrievably lost).

If you care about the data on that drive, you need to get assistance
from someone who knows what they are doing. You have already done a lot
of damage that has already drastically reduced your chances of ever
seeing any of that data again.


rantr13@yahoo.com wrote:

RE: "it said it was missing a system file and to put in Windows Recovery
disc in and press R. I did that and ..."

With all due respect, you don't learn very well.

You don't want to actually do ***ANYTHING*** to this drive EXCEPT read
it and recover the files by copying them to another drive. By
attempting to boot from it, you have made matters WORSE, you have
DECREASED your chances of ever recovering ANYTHING.

STOP "DOING THINGS" to the drive! The drive is apparently damaged,
although the damage may be either actually physical or only to the data
structure (e.g. a low-level format could fix the drive, but all data
would be permanently and irretrievably lost).

If you care about the data on that drive, you need to get assistance
from someone who knows what they are doing. You have already done a lot
of damage that has already drastically reduced your chances of ever
seeing any of that data again.


rantr13@yahoo.com wrote:

Barry Watzman wrote:
On the contrary, I do learn very well.
It's just that some people try and be helpful when they're not.
(Read on):

As a matter of fact, I apparently learn a lot better than experienced
tech's do. I brought the hard drive to a proffessional tech, who claim
there wasn't a hard drive they couldn't salvage the data from. After
giving up my hard drive for over a week in their hands, I was told the
drive was too corrupted to retrieve anything from. However, I refused
to believe "the impossible" and continued tackling the problem on my
own.

I, actually, learn so well that after weeks of misery, I have fixed the
problem on my own with, of course, what information I could find here
and there on the internet.

I've just finished copying onto another computer the final files
(approx 10 or so gigs of data) that needed to be taken off of the
original laptop's hard drive.

For those who are ever struck with that blue screen attack where the
computer (my case was a laptop) crashes and causes Windows (XP, in my
case) to keep rebooting over and over never allowing you to reach
Windows to access any of your files, don't give up.

My problem was that after I bought a few laptop adapters including both
the USB port type where you put your laptop hard drive into a little
external box then plug it it's data cord and power cord into another
computer or laptop's USB ports & also the adapter where you plug the
laptop's hard drive into the IDE cable inside a PC. On the computer's
I was using, I found none of them being very receptive to either of the
adapters. The most I could get was one computer we had out of several
to create a new drive (J drive) but it would not reach the point of
actually reading the drive.

Before when the hard drive was in the original laptop and I had tried
to fix it through Windows Recovery, it would give out approx 75% of the
way through saying there were more than one errors on the drive that
were unrecoverable. A task that always took nearly a whole 24 hours to
reach.

This time, I decided to try and fix the problem with a faster speedier
Computer.

About a week and a half ago, a friend of mine had just bought a top of
the line computer with the fastest mhz and highest ram out. He told me
to bring my hard drive over knowing I've been desperately trying to
retrieve the data from it for about 2 months now.

We used the IDE cable adapter hooking it inside his computer to what
was labled "SLAVE".

Only this time, when we turned on his computer, it booted directly onto
my laptop's "corrupted" hard drive, something that had never happened
in any of the other computers I ever had the adapter in before. Sure
enough, we got the screen that gives the choice of: the Safe Modes,
Windows that last worked correctly, Windows normally, etc. Only sure
enough, when we'd choose one, the hard drive would crash causing the
new computer to reboot.

So I decided to do a Windows Repair on the hard drive. Maybe in this
new speedier computer, it would go beyond 75%. After choosing "R", it
went through all the file loadings bringing the screen to the C:\>
prompt where I typed in "chkdsk /r".

On it's way, the PC went to repairing. Only this time, it took just a
few hours to actually fix the c: drive 100% compared to the original
laptop's 24 hours that only reached 75% to tell me there were
unrepairable errors.

So now, I had the C drive repaired 100% with a new prompt which was
something like:
c:\>windows

Eventually, I was led to a point of being asked which Windows did I
want to load, which the only choice given was 1 so I typed in "1" where
I was asked for an administrative password, having to refer to the net
to find out that the password is more than likely none, just hit enter.

Then I was brought to the initial Windows screen where you pick which
name you want to log into:
1
or
Administrative.

There was only one problem.

The new speedier computer had an electronic mouse with the red light at
the bottom.
My laptop's hard drive only recognized the ball-on-bottom type mouse so
the curser on the screen could not move to choose which to log into.

So then I decided to use one of my external hard drives that plugs into
the USB ports and see if they could finally assist.

Logged onto a screen we couldn't do anything with, we had to unplug the
PC's power cord, unplug the IDE cable adapter and boot the PC we were
using onto it's own Windows.

Once there, I assembled the laptop's hard drive in one of the external
boxes that plug into the USB ports. Right away, the plug and play
began to pick it up creating a J drive and finally reading it.

At last, I was FINALLY looking at all of the contents of my hard drive
just exactly like it was the last time I had seen it 2 months before.

Immediatley, I began copying all of the important files into the new
PC.
Only I had a hard time because just like before the J drive kept coming
and going, appearing and disapearing.
I copied about a fifth of all the files I wanted until the J drive
disapeared all together and never came back.

I was back to the point to where I was at before, only this time, I, at
least, had my most important files recovered.

But I still wanted more.

If it could be fixed once after being told by "so called" experienced
tech's that it was "impossible" and that I "don't learn very well",
this inexperienced tech was determined to fix it again.

My take, from all that I had experienced before and after the crash was
that it was infected with a virus corrupting files in the hard drive
making it impossible to load Windows keeping the hard drive from being
repaired.

Only this time, the problem was more difficult to fix than before
because now the hard drive would not load on the new speedier PC's IDE
slave cable at all like it did before.

After a very lengthy period of trying, I gave up and decided to try to
repair the hard drive in the original laptop it came from since that
seemed to be the only machine that would pick up any detection of it.

I put the hard drive back in the original laptop and sure enough was
right back at the same point I was at before: blue screen crashes, not
being able to boot into the safe mode, being left with no choice but to
do another Windows Recovery.

Only this time, it would take me days to complete the process.

The first time I tried it, after about 7 hours, it stopped at about 70%
telling me there were too many errors on the disc that were
unrepairable.

But as one probably guesses by now, I do not take bull-crap like that
for an answer. After all, how many times have I been told crap like
that by computers, experienced tech's, etc the past few weeks?

I tried again by unplugging the laptop and before it even attempted to
even try to "R" the drive, it gave me the exact same message.

Oh no! Screw that crap, take the hard drive out, reboot the laptop
without the hard drive in it, let it tell you it can't find it's
operating system, then shutdown the laptop, stick the hard drive back
in it and try Windows Recovery all over again!

After doing all that, sure enough, Windows "R" began on it's way to
attempt to fix the hard drive all over again.

This time, it took a period of 3 days!
3 whole days to FINALLY reach 100% !
After it had reached 50 or so percent it began taking about 2 or 3
hours to travel even one more percent that at first, I thought the
laptop was just jammed and started to give up and unplug it.

Then suddenly it moved up a notch adding another digit to the
percentage.
As long as there was life being added to the process, I wasn't giving
up.

However, it was going so slow, I just knew it was going to crash on me
again. After all this laptop had been through, it was not in the best
shape at all.

Finally, I was back at the point of having fixed the latop's hard drive
100% all over again.

Only what was going to happen when I plugged it back into the external
USB adapter to the other speedier computer?

After all, the hard drive was still crashing with blue screens on the
original laptop refusing to load Windows.

So back into the USB adapter it went. Only this time, I was going to
do something different.

This time with the hard drive in the USB adapter of the new speedier
computer, I was going to boot the PC in the Safe Mode and see if I
could copy files from there. Perhaps the Safe Mode would keep the
virus from corrupting the external hard drive from reappearring over
and over to the point of disapearing and not being able to be read all
together as it had done the past few times after it's initial first 30
minutes.

So I booted the new speedier PC into the Safe Mode, plugged in the
external USB adapter with the hard drive all hooked up. Plug and Play
didn't pick up like the last time but the PC still managed to create
the new "J" drive---and sure enough once again, all my laptop's hard
drive content was there all over again right before my eyes.

This time, I had much better luck copying files into the new PC.

A few times, the "J" drive disapeared then reappeared.

But it never disapeared all together.

Practically, nothing else can be done nor works in the Safe Mode
including the Virus Protection the computer is loaded with.

But at least I was able to copy almost every file from laptop's hard
drive.

There was one large unimportant 500 meg file I was going to copy that
was corrupted and not possible to copy.

But at least I got about 99.5% of my hard drive content back that was
termed impossible to get from a tech.

That is why it is sometimes not a good idea to fool with techs. They
have too much to do and just assume lable your drive "an impossible
task, give it up" so they can move on to the next job.

So let's refer to this tech's here comments:


Exactly.
That's what I wanted to do.

Only what I wanted to do and what I was being allowed to do from a
infective drive are 2 different things.


< By attempting to boot from it, you have made matters WORSE, you have

That wasn't the case at all, only your opinion.


If I had stopped "doing things to the drive" and listened to people
like you, I would be stuck with a dead drive nothing at all could be
done with.


The drive is not damaged at all.
"Infected" was the more accurate term.

The drive has been put back into the original laptop, only this time
since the files were no longer needed from it, I reformatted Windows XP
onto the drive and the laptop & it's hard drive boots Windows up
perfectly.

You'd swear tech's know very little about viruses that causes your
computer reboot constantly.

It's actually so sophhisticated that experienced tech's can't fix it
without wanting to completely reformat your hard drive since that's the
easy way out.

It makes one wonder how many times people have been told the same
things I've been told the past few weeks that it actually takes an
inexperienced tech determined to fix the problem to beat the virus,
restore all of the hard drive's files and reformat the drive.

Sounds a LOT simpler than it really is to the point to where tech's
don't have the time for the "restore" part of that problem.



There goes those famous words from an experienced tech people dread to
hear.



Yea, right.
Just so I can be told those famous words people dread to hear all the
time.
"Your data is permanently and irretrievably lost!"


< You have already done a lot
On the contrary, I have recovered nearly everything that needed to be
recovered from the drive of approx 10 gigs or so worth of data,
reformatted the hard drive with Windows XP and am going to use the 60
gig hard drive as a spare.

Barry Watzman wrote:
On the contrary, I do learn very well.
It's just that some people try and be helpful when they're not.
(Read on):

As a matter of fact, I apparently learn a lot better than experienced
tech's do. I brought the hard drive to a proffessional tech, who claim
there wasn't a hard drive they couldn't salvage the data from. After
giving up my hard drive for over a week in their hands, I was told the
drive was too corrupted to retrieve anything from. However, I refused
to believe "the impossible" and continued tackling the problem on my
own.

I, actually, learn so well that after weeks of misery, I have fixed the
problem on my own with, of course, what information I could find here
and there on the internet.

I've just finished copying onto another computer the final files
(approx 10 or so gigs of data) that needed to be taken off of the
original laptop's hard drive.

For those who are ever struck with that blue screen attack where the
computer (my case was a laptop) crashes and causes Windows (XP, in my
case) to keep rebooting over and over never allowing you to reach
Windows to access any of your files, don't give up.

My problem was that after I bought a few laptop adapters including both
the USB port type where you put your laptop hard drive into a little
external box then plug it it's data cord and power cord into another
computer or laptop's USB ports & also the adapter where you plug the
laptop's hard drive into the IDE cable inside a PC. On the computer's
I was using, I found none of them being very receptive to either of the
adapters. The most I could get was one computer we had out of several
to create a new drive (J drive) but it would not reach the point of
actually reading the drive.

Before when the hard drive was in the original laptop and I had tried
to fix it through Windows Recovery, it would give out approx 75% of the
way through saying there were more than one errors on the drive that
were unrecoverable. A task that always took nearly a whole 24 hours to
reach.

This time, I decided to try and fix the problem with a faster speedier
Computer.

About a week and a half ago, a friend of mine had just bought a top of
the line computer with the fastest mhz and highest ram out. He told me
to bring my hard drive over knowing I've been desperately trying to
retrieve the data from it for about 2 months now.

We used the IDE cable adapter hooking it inside his computer to what
was labled "SLAVE".

Only this time, when we turned on his computer, it booted directly onto
my laptop's "corrupted" hard drive, something that had never happened
in any of the other computers I ever had the adapter in before. Sure
enough, we got the screen that gives the choice of: the Safe Modes,
Windows that last worked correctly, Windows normally, etc. Only sure
enough, when we'd choose one, the hard drive would crash causing the
new computer to reboot.

So I decided to do a Windows Repair on the hard drive. Maybe in this
new speedier computer, it would go beyond 75%. After choosing "R", it
went through all the file loadings bringing the screen to the C:\>
prompt where I typed in "chkdsk /r".

On it's way, the PC went to repairing. Only this time, it took just a
few hours to actually fix the c: drive 100% compared to the original
laptop's 24 hours that only reached 75% to tell me there were
unrepairable errors.

So now, I had the C drive repaired 100% with a new prompt which was
something like:
c:\>windows

Eventually, I was led to a point of being asked which Windows did I
want to load, which the only choice given was 1 so I typed in "1" where
I was asked for an administrative password, having to refer to the net
to find out that the password is more than likely none, just hit enter.

Then I was brought to the initial Windows screen where you pick which
name you want to log into:
1
or
Administrative.

There was only one problem.

The new speedier computer had an electronic mouse with the red light at
the bottom.
My laptop's hard drive only recognized the ball-on-bottom type mouse so
the curser on the screen could not move to choose which to log into.

So then I decided to use one of my external hard drives that plugs into
the USB ports and see if they could finally assist.

Logged onto a screen we couldn't do anything with, we had to unplug the
PC's power cord, unplug the IDE cable adapter and boot the PC we were
using onto it's own Windows.

Once there, I assembled the laptop's hard drive in one of the external
boxes that plug into the USB ports. Right away, the plug and play
began to pick it up creating a J drive and finally reading it.

At last, I was FINALLY looking at all of the contents of my hard drive
just exactly like it was the last time I had seen it 2 months before.

Immediatley, I began copying all of the important files into the new
PC.
Only I had a hard time because just like before the J drive kept coming
and going, appearing and disapearing.
I copied about a fifth of all the files I wanted until the J drive
disapeared all together and never came back.

I was back to the point to where I was at before, only this time, I, at
least, had my most important files recovered.

But I still wanted more.

If it could be fixed once after being told by "so called" experienced
tech's that it was "impossible" and that I "don't learn very well",
this inexperienced tech was determined to fix it again.

My take, from all that I had experienced before and after the crash was
that it was infected with a virus corrupting files in the hard drive
making it impossible to load Windows keeping the hard drive from being
repaired.

Only this time, the problem was more difficult to fix than before
because now the hard drive would not load on the new speedier PC's IDE
slave cable at all like it did before.

After a very lengthy period of trying, I gave up and decided to try to
repair the hard drive in the original laptop it came from since that
seemed to be the only machine that would pick up any detection of it.

I put the hard drive back in the original laptop and sure enough was
right back at the same point I was at before: blue screen crashes, not
being able to boot into the safe mode, being left with no choice but to
do another Windows Recovery.

Only this time, it would take me days to complete the process.

The first time I tried it, after about 7 hours, it stopped at about 70%
telling me there were too many errors on the disc that were
unrepairable.

But as one probably guesses by now, I do not take bull-crap like that
for an answer. After all, how many times have I been told crap like
that by computers, experienced tech's, etc the past few weeks?

I tried again by unplugging the laptop and before it even attempted to
even try to "R" the drive, it gave me the exact same message.

Oh no! Screw that crap, take the hard drive out, reboot the laptop
without the hard drive in it, let it tell you it can't find it's
operating system, then shutdown the laptop, stick the hard drive back
in it and try Windows Recovery all over again!

After doing all that, sure enough, Windows "R" began on it's way to
attempt to fix the hard drive all over again.

This time, it took a period of 3 days!
3 whole days to FINALLY reach 100% !
After it had reached 50 or so percent it began taking about 2 or 3
hours to travel even one more percent that at first, I thought the
laptop was just jammed and started to give up and unplug it.

Then suddenly it moved up a notch adding another digit to the
percentage.
As long as there was life being added to the process, I wasn't giving
up.

However, it was going so slow, I just knew it was going to crash on me
again. After all this laptop had been through, it was not in the best
shape at all.

Finally, I was back at the point of having fixed the latop's hard drive
100% all over again.

Only what was going to happen when I plugged it back into the external
USB adapter to the other speedier computer?

After all, the hard drive was still crashing with blue screens on the
original laptop refusing to load Windows.

So back into the USB adapter it went. Only this time, I was going to
do something different.

This time with the hard drive in the USB adapter of the new speedier
computer, I was going to boot the PC in the Safe Mode and see if I
could copy files from there. Perhaps the Safe Mode would keep the
virus from corrupting the external hard drive from reappearring over
and over to the point of disapearing and not being able to be read all
together as it had done the past few times after it's initial first 30
minutes.

So I booted the new speedier PC into the Safe Mode, plugged in the
external USB adapter with the hard drive all hooked up. Plug and Play
didn't pick up like the last time but the PC still managed to create
the new "J" drive---and sure enough once again, all my laptop's hard
drive content was there all over again right before my eyes.

This time, I had much better luck copying files into the new PC.

A few times, the "J" drive disapeared then reappeared.

But it never disapeared all together.

Practically, nothing else can be done nor works in the Safe Mode
including the Virus Protection the computer is loaded with.

But at least I was able to copy almost every file from laptop's hard
drive.

There was one large unimportant 500 meg file I was going to copy that
was corrupted and not possible to copy.

But at least I got about 99.5% of my hard drive content back that was
termed impossible to get from a tech.

That is why it is sometimes not a good idea to fool with techs. They
have too much to do and just assume lable your drive "an impossible
task, give it up" so they can move on to the next job.

So let's refer to this tech's here comments:


Exactly.
That's what I wanted to do.

Only what I wanted to do and what I was being allowed to do from a
infective drive are 2 different things.


< By attempting to boot from it, you have made matters WORSE, you have

That wasn't the case at all, only your opinion.


If I had stopped "doing things to the drive" and listened to people
like you, I would be stuck with a dead drive nothing at all could be
done with.


The drive is not damaged at all.
"Infected" was the more accurate term.

The drive has been put back into the original laptop, only this time
since the files were no longer needed from it, I reformatted Windows XP
onto the drive and the laptop & it's hard drive boots Windows up
perfectly.

You'd swear tech's know very little about viruses that causes your
computer reboot constantly.

It's actually so sophhisticated that experienced tech's can't fix it
without wanting to completely reformat your hard drive since that's the
easy way out.

It makes one wonder how many times people have been told the same
things I've been told the past few weeks that it actually takes an
inexperienced tech determined to fix the problem to beat the virus,
restore all of the hard drive's files and reformat the drive.

Sounds a LOT simpler than it really is to the point to where tech's
don't have the time for the "restore" part of that problem.



There goes those famous words from an experienced tech people dread to
hear.



Yea, right.
Just so I can be told those famous words people dread to hear all the
time.
"Your data is permanently and irretrievably lost!"


< You have already done a lot
On the contrary, I have recovered nearly everything that needed to be
recovered from the drive of approx 10 gigs or so worth of data,
reformatted the hard drive with Windows XP and am going to use the 60
gig hard drive as a spare.

<rantr13@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Good show ranr13! Through days of hard work you showed them the
impossible is indeed possible. I'm an electrical engineer and I have the
same problem with techs too. And customer service are the worst! Here is
a quote you might like.

People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people who are
doing it. -- Anonymous

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<rantr13@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162385281.427764.199470@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com
Good show ranr13! Through days of hard work you showed them the
impossible is indeed possible. I'm an electrical engineer and I have the
same problem with techs too. And customer service are the worst! Here is
a quote you might like.

People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people who are
doing it. -- Anonymous

--
Bill

BillW50 wrote:

Gibson Research. It has worked miracles for me, many many many times.
A poor man's harddrive repair software so to speak that works most of
the time....

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