I've been reading a lot about laptops lately, and the most problem I see
with them is the motherboards failing. Is this do to the fact that the
laptop is just making too much heat for such a small space?

The makers of laptops don't really seem to care about this problem. Such as
Dell, who thinks is just easier to replace the motherboard, instead of
trying to fix the problem. I really want a laptop one day, but I don't feel
like sending it back everytime the motherboard fails because of overheating.

What do you think?

Snow wrote:

Have a lot of heat-problems with gericom-machines, but no heat-problems
with dell and acer. My dell is running almost 24/7 for more than two years
now and despite getting warm (especially if I place him on the sofa for
watching video never had problems. The same with other dell machines and
acer-machine.
The Gericom-machines needed an extra cooling-pad placed below to live
longer than 1:00 hour.

peter

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I had similar feelings and even bought a cooling pad when I got my
Dell 8500. However, I have found no problems what-so-ever regarding
over heating. I've even tried to get it really hot by running a bunch
of data transfer rate tests and cpu benches right in a row to compare
the level of heat with and without the cooling pad. While the cooling
pad did drop everything about 10 degrees (F) none of the temps was a
problem.

Musashi

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:40:38 -0500, "Snow" <zag@gaz.com> wrote:

Musashi wrote:

What is a cooling pad?


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Click the *See it!* link.

A cooling pad is a thin metal slab intended to cool (usually with
electric fans -- sometimes with passive-cooling heat pipes) the
bottom of a laptop set upon it.

Here is a heat-pipe cooling pad:
http://www.bixnet.com/facopadforno.html


-Chris

No.

Only pseudo "Laptops" with hot desktop CPUs beyond 60 Watt
have this problem in common.

Also notebooks with so called "mobile" CPUs like
P4m or mobile Athlon can have problems.

Real notebooks have a Pentium-M and have
absolut no heat problems like Acer 660 or 800 series for example

Buy a real notebook with a real mobile CPU.


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As far as I know is the Dell 8500 not a notebook

It's only a pseudo notebook with a hot desktop CPU


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Ok mouth, I have found no problems what-so-ever in my pseudo notebook
with a hot desktop CPU. How's that?

Technically, it's a mobile chip, hence the big M, however we ALL know
it's not the same mobile type chip that you are so fond of. Those
little bastards can't do what I want done.

So until your little junk ass chips can catch up I'm going to have to
go with these steroid versions which are more like desktop cpus than
mobile cpus.

Ya know, you have a lot of good things to contribute on this newsgroup
and if I have a technical question you are one of the people I would
turn to but your uncontrollable need to spout off every time a "big"
chip is mentioned is getting old for everyone.


Musashi

PS, if it looks like a notebook, is mobile like a notebook, runs even
better than most notebooks, doesn't have any problems regarding those
things you say make it a pseudo notebook.......... then it's a
notebook.






On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:57:19 +0100, Roland Mösl <founder@pege.org>
wrote:

Depends on the bench mark.

I just tested with my own software runing under Perl.

P-M 1.5 GHz Acer 802 LMI 4:54
P-M 1.3 GHz Acer 800 LCI 5:25
Athlon +2500 Desktop 7:09
P4-M 1.8 GHz Acer 634 LCI 7:14
Athlon +2000 Desktop 7:30

Accoring to this test, I would compare
Pentium-M against Pentium4 with 2:1

According to this test, I would expect that a
Pentium-M 1.7 GHz is as fast as a
Pentium 4 3.4 GHz

Accoring to this test I would expect that there is no
CPU on the market faster than a 1.7 GHz Pentium-M

And this is not some unimportant benchmark,
this is the benchmark with the software, I make my living
and all my clients work with this software.


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You think there is no CPU on the market faster than a 1.7GHZ P-M?

For one thing, that chip wasn't available when I got my machine.

Secondly, you have no direct compariston of a 3.06 P4 chip and a 1.7
P-M chip. Just an assumpttion on what you would expect.

And you are testing on a benchmarking with software that few if any of
us are familiar with. What it tests. What the numbers mean, etc..

Regardless, this is only a tangent to the fact that once all these
CPUs are put into a notebook and run smoothly without heat
problems............. they are mobile. Regardless of your bias against
them.

Musashi


On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:26:34 +0100, Roland Mösl <founder@pege.org>
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:55:09 +0100, Roland Mösl <founder@pege.org>
wrote:

Jah,

Only girlie-men buy pseudo-laptops

Real men like Arnold buy real notebooks.



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