- laptop question..
- Posted by Chris on May 15th, 2007
I've been reading an operating manual for a "used" model laptop (Omnibook
500, by HP), and wondering how long PHYSICALLY can a laptop last? I don't
mean battery life, but the hardware itself. I've checked google, but it
seems alot of articles consider operational life on the basis of whether or
not it's hardware can handle an OS upgrade to whatever is available this
year.
I'm wondering, if I am comfortable with the OS it was designed to support,
and am happy with the hardware specs, how long can i realistically expect
the device to continue functioning?
Thanks.
- Posted by Barry Watzman on May 15th, 2007
There is no answer to this question; it depends on how the laptop is
treated and used. I have seen people destroy laptops in 1-2 years, but
I buy and sell a few older models, and I have lots (dozens) of 10-year
old laptops. It's a lot like a car; a 4-year old car can be "like new",
or it can be a wreck. It depends a lot on the owner.
Chris wrote:
- Posted by Chris on May 15th, 2007
"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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Thanks. Well, what's the longest you've seen one maintain operation without
needing to replace parts (not including the battery)? I'm very forgiving on
my electronics. I don't bump, scratch, and drop them, and I do read care
instructions in the manual. :-P
- Posted by BillW50 on May 15th, 2007
"Chris" <rrufiange@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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1) Well my Epson PX-8 (CP/M 2.2) was built in 1984 and it still runs.
2) Sharp PC-4501 (MS-DOS) still works (1989)
3) Toshiba T1950CS (Windows 3.1) won't turn on for about 7 years now
(1994)
4) Toshiba 2595XDVD (Windows 98SE) still works (1999)
5) Toshiba 2595XDVD (Windows 2000) still works, but stopped reading DVD,
CD is still ok (1999)
6) Gateway MX6124 (Windows XP) still works (2006)
So out of the past 23 years, only 1 out of 6 laptops died on me. And the
two older ones doesn't use lamps for the display, so who knows how long
they will run. Manufactures use MTBF (mean time before faulure) ratings
for major components. Something that the customer almost never sees.
Like the display lamps generally are expected to last about 25,000
hours. That is roughly 4 years and being on 24/7.
What I have done with this Gateway, is connect it up to an external LCD
monitor, keyboard, and mouse. And use it on a desk like a desktop. And
just by removing a couple of cables, I'm portable. So I have the best of
both worlds. And this should extend the life of the laptop. Well in
theory anyway.
Oh and that Toshiba T1950CS had a design flaw. This laptop like my older
2, doesn't sport a fan. But this model should have had one. As they
cooked themselves to death. One would be very hard pressed to find one
of these in working condition today.
--
Bill
- Posted by Barry Watzman on May 15th, 2007
MORE THAN ten years. And it's not uncommon, LOTS of laptops will go
that long if not physically abused. But very few 10 year old computers
will run much in the way of software that is still of interest.
Chris wrote:
- Posted by Gordon on May 15th, 2007
On Tue, 15 May 2007 06:22:26 -0400, "Chris"
<rrufiange@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
is the hinge structure. For some reason the manufacturers don't
design the hinge structure well enough to withstand the stiffness
of the hinges, and the plastic case components will fatigue and
break away from the hinges. Look for any early signs of this
failure. A slight distortion in the screen image near one of the
hinges as the lid is repositioned is usually an early indicator
of hinge failure. Also look for small cracks in the case plastic
near the hinges.
- Posted by BillW50 on May 15th, 2007
"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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Oh I don't know about interest, as my 1984 Epson PX-8 (23 years old) is
still very useful. It sports just a tape, RAM and ROM drives. So it
takes vibrations in autos very well. And it is about as useful today as
it was back then. Except the date can't be set past 12/31/1999. LOL
--
Bill
- Posted by Jerry Peters on May 15th, 2007
In comp.laptops Chris <rrufiange@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
probably at least 10 years old. I bought it used in '98 or '99.
I've replaced the disk drive because the original was only 3 GB,
and last year the keyboard when several of the keys stopped working.
Jerry
- Posted by Lars on May 16th, 2007
On Tue, 15 May 2007 06:22:26 -0400, "Chris" <rrufiange@cfl.rr.com>
wrote:
I doubt anyone could give you a generla life expectancy.
That depends very much on the environment where it is used, how
much it is run, and obviously the original quality.
I have one laptop that is now on its it 13th year, but not much used
lately. It cost me abt 3500 Euros when new, which was cheap compared
to to the best Thinkpads at aboy three times the price.
I also have several Thinkpads that are 7 and 8 years old. They are
used a lot, carried around frequently, and still sparkle !
Lars
Stockholm
- Posted by Chris on May 17th, 2007
"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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That's what I figured, thanks. Seems like all of the sources I've been
linked to online when mentioning a laptop's "operational life" aren't
mentioning hardware, but judge their results by whether or not it can
upgrade to another OS. I plan to use included software (designed to use Win
2K, and can install XP), and get any unincluded programs while available.
Upgrades aren't much of a concern for me, but being able to repair/replace
components if they wear out over time are. Most likely it's batteries in
that area. I've got desktops I've had for upwards of 8 to 10 years without
replacing anything. Just wondering if I can expect the same or similar
performance out of laptop components.
Thanks alot.
- Posted by paulmd@efn.org on May 18th, 2007
On May 15, 8:02 am, "BillW50" <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote:
- Posted by BillW50 on May 19th, 2007
"Chris" <rrufiange@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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One of mine 23 years old and another is 18 years old. But I don't think
the quality of todays laptops are quite high standard as these.
--
Bill
- Posted by BillW50 on May 19th, 2007
<paulmd@efn.org> wrote in message
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Thanks, the first thing I tried 
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Bill