- Newb: How copy p hidden partition onto new drive & what hard drive to get
- Posted by Rod Speed on March 17th, 2006
Jesse <none@none.com> wrote
I wouldnt got for a 7200 rpm drive in a low
end Dell myself, because of the heat issues.
You could try monitoring the temperature of the current drive
to see if its one of the low end Dells that doesnt cool the drive
properly, some of them have now been designed better, but
yours is likely to be one of the bad designs.
- Posted by Barry Watzman on March 17th, 2006
It's not an absolute given that all 7200 rpm drives are hotter than all
5400 or even 4200 rpm drives. You have to look at the individual drives
that you are considering. Remember heat = power consumption.
Rod Speed wrote:
- Posted by Jesse on March 17th, 2006
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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:
: You could try monitoring the temperature of the current drive
: to see if its one of the low end Dells that doesnt cool the drive
: properly, some of them have now been designed better, but
: yours is likely to be one of the bad designs.
What tolerance parameters should I use? The drive currently reaches 50C
easily without a very heavy load (1600/2800 utilization). If this is
too high? Then?
- Posted by Jesse on March 17th, 2006
Barry Watzman wrote:
: It's not an absolute given that all 7200 rpm drives are hotter than
: all 5400 or even 4200 rpm drives. You have to look at the individual
: drives that you are considering. Remember heat = power consumption.
:
Suggestions on drives then? Looks like I will have to do a custom order
from the US if I go through with it.
- Posted by Rod Speed on March 17th, 2006
Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:
Its very uncommon that they arent.
Only if you're obsessively anal.
And the data sheet values on consumption
arent that reliable since they are maximums.
- Posted by Rod Speed on March 17th, 2006
Jesse <none@none.com> wrote
How often do you do that ?
And is that in your current winter or the hottest days in summer ?
Not if its only done rarely.
Que?
- Posted by J. Clarke on March 17th, 2006
Rod Speed wrote:
If they are of the same generation that is true. But generally if one is
replacing a drive it is several generations older than the replacement, and
there have been improvements in power consumption along the way, so it is
quite possible to encounter 7200 RPM drives with less power consumption
than 4200 RPM drives.
This is why you normally inhabit my killfile and will likely go back there
shortly. If someone disagrees with you and you don't have a logical
response you insult them.
It's not "obsessively anal" to look at the specs on all candidate
replacement drives before choosing one.
So where does one find "reliable" data?
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
- Posted by Richard Bonner on March 17th, 2006
Jesse wrote:
*** You're welcome. C'est bon!
*** I can't say; read the manual. I suspect it's the latter.
When I wiped my HP laptop's hard drive, I didn't care about HP
partitions. I just partitioned normally and then loaded DR-DOS. I am
having no troubles save for that @-**))(*& Windoze hardware. )-:
*** Hmm, I guess 7,000 km eliminates a service call from either
of us. (-:
Richard Bonner
http://www.chebucto.ca/~ak621/DOS/
- Posted by Jesse on March 18th, 2006
Rod Speed wrote:
:
:: What tolerance parameters should I use? The drive currently reaches
:: 50C easily without a very heavy load (1600/2800 utilization).
:
: How often do you do that ?
:
: And is that in your current winter or the hottest days in summer ?
Usually when I do a complete virus scan in the winter.
: If this is too high?
:
: Not if its only done rarely.
:
:: Then?
:
: Que?
Ok, if this is not too high that's good, I can go ahead and get a 5400
rpm drive...perhaps a Samsung because you say it tends to run the
coolest?
- Posted by Jesse on March 18th, 2006
Richard Bonner wrote:
: Jesse wrote:
::: Thank you, fellow Canuck.
:
: *** You're welcome. C'est bon!
:: BTW, I am in Vancouver.
Moi aussi! And most stores carry only 80 GB 2.5 inch drives! How
ridiculous when many laptops now come with 100 GB (4200 rpm) drives.
- Posted by Rod Speed on March 18th, 2006
Jesse <none@none.com> wrote
OK, its going to be unacceptibly high on the hottest days of summer.
Yeah, I would if it was my Dell, if you dont want
to scrap the Dell and get something better.
- Posted by tc on March 18th, 2006
http://www.frontierpc.com/categoryfe...es:%20Notebook
Terry
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- Posted by Jesse on March 18th, 2006
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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: :
: > Ok, if this is not too high that's good, I can go ahead
: > and get a 5400 rpm drive...perhaps a Samsung
: > because you say it tends to run the coolest?
:
: Yeah, I would if it was my Dell, if you dont want
: to scrap the Dell and get something better.
Ah....don't tempt me into getting something better. ;-)
Should I avoid Dell's in the future altogether or just the low-end
models?
- Posted by Jesse on March 18th, 2006
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http://www.frontierpc.com/categoryfe...es:%20Notebook
: Terry
:
GRACIAS! I completely forget about these guys. I used to go them when
they were near Metrotown.
- Posted by Rod Speed on March 18th, 2006
Jesse <none@none.com> wrote
Why not ?
Yeah, just the low end models, and even
some of those are fine drive cooling wise now.
- Posted by Jesse on March 19th, 2006
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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: :
: > Ah....don't tempt me into getting something better. ;-)
:
: Why not ?
I just bought my laptop about 18 months ago. CPU and memory wise it's
fine. I don't like the weight issue (~6.8 lbs+ w/battery) or the stock
hard drive speed and size.
- Posted by Quaoar on March 19th, 2006
Jesse wrote:
There is a huge performance improvement at 5400rpm, and even more with
7200rpm drives in the current crop of laptops.
Q
