I have an IBM T42. It only came with a 40G hard drive which is about full.
I need to get a new one.
I'm used to having either an operating cd or a restore cd that come with my
computers but IBM has a partition on the hard drive in case of a system
restore. Although I can't see it in "my computer" with an assigned drive
letter.
I'm wondering how I can install a new hard drive on my laptop.
I was thinking I should go through the "create recovery disks" and then
start dumping them into the new hard drive. Wrong?

Thanks

IS

IS <y@hl.com> wrote:
Err .... how about "deleting something"? It works, you know!

They give you a cd if you ask - within 180 days, I believe. And it's
easy enough to make your own - look it up on the web (I presume you are
talking about MS slp).

Copy your old one to your new one (use a usb housing or some other
computer).

Peter

Can't delete anything. That's why I need a larger HD.
It's not completely full. I'm at about 32G's right now.
Thanks for the info. I will try to copy directly on to a new hard drive.

IS


"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@lab.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
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IS <y@hl.com> wrote:
If you want to save it all to a few dvds befre delete, go ahead.

(but in 20+ years of using a computer I have never met the data I didn't
feel good about deleting 90% of! - data is not information).

How about compression, if simple "delete" does not do it for you!

Peter

IS <y@hl.com> wrote:
: Can't delete anything. That's why I need a larger HD.
: It's not completely full. I'm at about 32G's right now.
: Thanks for the info. I will try to copy directly on to a new hard drive.

How about cloning your old hard drive to the new one with a USB
enclosure? You might have to buy software like Acronis True Image
(about $35 when I bought it two months ago via NewEgg.com) unless you
can find a free version that works with NTFS. In theory, you'd clone
your old drive to the new one, swap drives, and just boot. (Some
claim a repair install may also be required after the swap, but it may
depend on your system configuration).

Andrew
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Having worked on many IBM notebooks as an IBM service tech, I recommend
ghosting the old drive to the new drive. I know, it is a lot easier
said than done, seeing that you can only connect one drive at a time,
internally. However, knowing that your old drive is in good working
order, the idea of putting it into an external USB drive cage is a
great idea. You should be able to get a 2.5" USB drive cage for your
notebook drive at a price between $50-$75cdn.

Another suggestion is to pay a local service tech the $100 to do it for
you and be sure that you don't mess it up...otherwise, you may find
that you need my data recovery services. The local tech should have a
few adapters to allow them to connect the 2.5" hard drives to a PC and
quickly do the ghost of your drive.

Best of luck,
Luke Coughey
Vice President
Recovery Force Inc.
866-750-3169
http://www.recoveryforce.com/


Andrew wrote:

You could use a program like Drive Image to copy the partitions -- even
the hidden partitions -- to the drive. Best done on a desktop, where
the laptop drives are mounted as additional drives. You may still have
to do a "repair install" to get windows running on the new drive.
Normally, if things go well, this will retain your installed software,
data and settings. (and in this case, you would still have the original
hard drive).


IS wrote:

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:25:35 GMT, Barry Watzman
<WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:

I did this recently using Ghost 9. I backed up the existing hardrive
to DVD+RW. Put in the new bigger hardrive and booted from the Ghost 9
CD. Restored from the DVDs. Didn't take long at all.

"rollout" <lcoughey@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What if the data has been overwritten during the bad Ghosting?
Will your recovery still be able to recover it?

It isn't very likely that you would do an exact clone of the blank
drive to the original, as the original drive is the smaller drive. So,
this would mean that you would be doing a regular ghost of the drive,
thus making the possibility of recovering the data very high. Of
course, the cost to recover the data would be considerably higher than
paying a service company to do the ghost correctly. So, again, I would
suggest finding a good service company to do it, if you are unsure of
what you are doing.

Luke Coughey
Vice President
Recovery Force Inc.
866-750-3169
http://www.recoveryforce.com/

How about just adding a portable USB drive, and move some of your data to
it? I had the same space problem, with only a 30 GB drive on my Toshiba- and
added a 60 GB that plugs into the USB port, is the size of a small pocket
notebook (the paper kind, not the computer kind), and works as a second hard
drive. The portable drive can also act as a giant memory stick/flash drive
to move data between non-networked computers.
--
Benny
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"IS" <y@hl.com> wrote in message
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You haven't answered my question. Suppose that the data was overwritten
once by error, would you still be able to recover it? Suppose that the data
was overwritten ten times by error, would you still be able to recover it?

"rollout" <lcoughey@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It seems kind of odd that one would "accidentally" overwrite a 40GB
hard drive ten times in error. If every sector of the drive were to be
overwritten with new data, it is still possible to recover the data,
but not very likely.

In the situation that has been described above, it is very clear that
the only reason that the user would be ghosting their drive is if they
were going to a larger drive. Any "clone" program (a program that does
an exact bit by bit image) that a person could use, will not allow the
user to clone a larger drive to a smaller drive, as the data would not
fit. So, we are left with a typical ghost which just does a
partition/file copy of the data. If you made the mistake of ghosting
the wrong direction, you would actually only be copying a blank
partition, if anything at all. This would result in the apparent loss
of all data, while not affecting much, if any data at all.

So, if you were to ghost the blank drive over the older smaller drive
10 times, or even 100 times, I am quite confident that I could get the
data back. Of course, in many instances where the user is not willing
to spend the money to pay someone to do it for them when they are
unsure of what they are doing, they usually attempt to install
downloaded data recovery programs and attempt to recover the data
themselves. In such cases, we have found that the client tends to make
things worse, increasing the cost to recover the data and, in many
cases, causing the data to no longer be recoverable.

Luke Coughey
Vice President
Recovery Force Inc.
866-750-3169
http://www.recoveryforce.com/

"IS" <y@hl.com> wrote in message
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like Ghost and image the disk onto the new hard disk. Remove the new hard
disk from the USB drive case, and install it into the laptop. Simple,
straight forward. If you don't want to keep the old drive and the USB case,
sell it on eBay.

Generally speaking, once the data has been overwritten (truly
overwritten, not just "erased") even just once, it's irrecoverable. In
fact, it's possible to recover data that has been overwritten multiple
times (perhaps up to a dozen times), but it requires CIA/FBI/NSA levels
of effort to do so. One overwrite is the end of data for "normal"
purposes with tools, levels of effort and costs available to normal
indivudals and corporations (even if they are willing to spend thousands
of dollars on data recovery).


Asteroid wrote:

"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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What I am wondering about is the case where the data has been
overwritten multiple time with different letters. In a clean room
one can rely on the traces around the letters to infer what letters
had been there before being overwritten, but then, I think, in one
letter one can go back three overwritings and the next five
overwritings and the next two, etc., so how can one be sure that
the sequence of recovered letters belong to the *same* generation
(text) being overwritten? One can recover a jumble of letters
belonging to *different* generations of overwriting and therefore
worthless and meaningless.

Another question is, with the normal recovery software tools
out there (including forensic tools), is it possible to recover data
that has been overwritten more than once, say, three times?

With normal tools it's not even possible to recover things that have
been overwritten just once.


Absinthe wrote:

"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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Is that so, even with forensic tools out there like Encase?

There are people who install Win XP where W98 was, format
the drive in NTFS, install apps like Office 2003, and of course
Win XP and Office 2003 are much bigger then what they replace,
so the whole previous used space (proggies and data) is probably
overwritten, but nothing was backed up and the normal undelete
utilities find nothing. Is it possible to recover any data?

Crashpad wrote:

What leads you to believe that encase can recover even singly-overwritten
data? With modern disks the OS asks the disk for the data and the disk
delivers it--there is no low-level access by which encase could look for
anything other than what the disk returns. To obtain such low-level access
would require a custom-written firmware routine unique to the specific
model of drive and would require that the drive be reflashed with that
firmware. And even then it's questionable whether it would be able to find
anything different.

It might be for an agency with the resources to go over the platter surface
with the proper instruments but it would be hideously expensive.

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"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@snet.net.invalid> wrote in message
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Suppose the data had been overwritten multiple times with different
letters. In a clean room, with the custom-written firmware routine
unique to the specific model of drive and the drive being reflashed
with that firmware, one can rely on the traces around the letters
(actually, around the bits) to infer what letters (what bits) had been
there before being overwritten, but then, I think (and I would like to
ask you and anybody else who knows about this whether this is true),
in one letter one can go back three overwritings and the next five
overwritings and the next two, etc., so how can one be sure that the
sequence of recovered letters belong to the *same* generation
(text) being overwritten? One can recover a jumble of letters
belonging to *different* generations of overwriting and therefore
worthless and meaningless. Is this so or am I imagining things?