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which wireless AP works best (?) with newer Thinkpads?
Posted by antons@optonline.net on February 4th, 2006


I recently purchased a Z60m with wireless capability, along with a Linksys
WAP54G wireless access point. I have already spent the better
part of three hours with Indian tech support..........and to no avail. I
get plenty of signal strength, but no wireless net connection......I'm
thinking of
throwing in the towel and returning the thing in total frustration. Any
suggestions for an easier, more compatible (?) unit in the hundred dollar
and less range to recommend.

Thanks- Anton

Posted by Charlie Hoffpauir on February 5th, 2006


On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 23:10:18 GMT, antons@optonline.net wrote:

I'd think that unit would be quite good. I have the WRT54G, which is
the "router" version, and it works just fine. I'd suspect the problem
is something between the chair and the keyboard. (Who is Indian Tech
support?)
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Posted by eM eL on February 5th, 2006


<antons@optonline.net> wrote in message
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What are you trying to connect to via the access point..? The Internet?
Another computer? The Almighty..?

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Posted by Steve Mackie on February 5th, 2006


Here's a stupid question:

What exactly is your setup? We know you have a Z60m laptop and a WAP54G, but
is that it? I ask this because the WAP54G is NOT a router. You can't just
plug it into your cable modem and go. The WAP54G is simply a wireless access
point, that's it, no DHCP capabilities.

My advice is to return the WAP54G and purchase the WRT54G.

Steve



Posted by antons@optonline.net on February 5th, 2006


Hello, and thanks for your response. My setup is the following: a DSL
modem connects to a four port Siemens router (which is connected to
a CNC machine, a networked printer and one laptop directly), with the fourth
port to a Linksys EZXS55W 5 Port Workgroup switch. One of the
five ports goes to the Linksys WAP54G WAP. Everything, EXCEPT the
wireless connection, works flawlessly. By the way, I've been using
computers since 1988, have built several of them etc. etc.

The WAP installation CD makes the install process seem like it would be
1,2,3...........and it's not the case. First thing I needed to do was
change the default IP range of the WAP to 192.168.253................ which
tech support walked me through. That's as far as I got. I have tried
changing and cancelling all security encryption settings. Didn't make a
difference. For testing purposes, I have the Thinkpad z60m about
ten inches from the WAP. There is no connection.

What am I missing here? As regards my criticism of Linksys tech
support..........three calls so far have all ended in "do you have another
wireless connection to test the the WAP with?" And well, sir, if you don't
have another connection to test the unit with..........and blah, blah.
Why not print on the box the following- "Only for users who have other
wireless connections to troubleshoot with........."

Thanks-
Anton

Posted by antons@optonline.net on February 5th, 2006


Hello, and thanks for your response. My setup is the following: a DSL
modem connects to a four port Siemens router (which is connected to
a CNC machine, a networked printer and one laptop directly), with the fourth
port to a Linksys EZXS55W 5 Port Workgroup switch. One of the
five ports goes to the Linksys WAP54G WAP. Everything, EXCEPT the
wireless connection, works flawlessly. By the way, I've been using
computers since 1988, have built several of them etc. etc.

The WAP installation CD makes the install process seem like it would be
1,2,3...........and it's not the case. First thing I needed to do was
change the default IP range of the WAP to 192.168.253................ which
tech support walked me through. That's as far as I got. I have tried
changing and cancelling all security encryption settings. Didn't make a
difference. For testing purposes, I have the Thinkpad z60m about
ten inches from the WAP. There is no connection.

What am I missing here? As regards my criticism of Linksys tech
support..........three calls so far have all ended in "do you have another
wireless connection to test the the WAP with?" And well, sir, if you don't
have another connection to test the unit with..........and blah, blah.
Why not print on the box the following- "Only for users who have other
wireless connections to troubleshoot with........."

Thanks-
Anton

Posted by antons@optonline.net on February 5th, 2006


Hello, and thanks for your response. My setup is the following: a DSL
modem connects to a four port Siemens router (which is connected to
a CNC machine, a networked printer and one laptop directly), with the fourth
port to a Linksys EZXS55W 5 Port Workgroup switch. One of the
five ports goes to the Linksys WAP54G WAP. Everything, EXCEPT the
wireless connection, works flawlessly. By the way, I've been using
computers since 1988, have built several of them etc. etc.

The WAP installation CD makes the install process seem like it would be
1,2,3...........and it's not the case. First thing I needed to do was
change the default IP range of the WAP to 192.168.253................ which
tech support walked me through. That's as far as I got. I have tried
changing and cancelling all security encryption settings. Didn't make a
difference. For testing purposes, I have the Thinkpad z60m about
ten inches from the WAP. There is no connection.

What am I missing here? As regards my criticism of Linksys tech
support..........three calls so far have all ended in "do you have another
wireless connection to test the the WAP with?" And well, sir, if you don't
have another connection to test the unit with..........and blah, blah.
Why not print on the box the following- "Only for users who have other
wireless connections to troubleshoot with........."

Thanks-
Anton

Posted by qp@iname.com on February 5th, 2006


I don't think that there are any WAPs that work any better with
Thinkpads. I use Dlink almost exclusively with my Thinkpads but then
again, they work fine with all the other laptop brands I've had in the
past as well.

The linksys products I've used in the past have usually worked just
fine and were relatively simple to set up. Does the WAP seem like it's
getting a connection to the network? Also, are you using DHCP on the
wireless end to acquire a IP address? If so, is the router issuing you
one? Just because you're making a connection with the WAP doesn't mean
that you're getting an IP. It's a silly question but one I had to ask.

Posted by Steve Mackie on February 5th, 2006


Last sentence is irrelavent.

You are going to have to go into greater detail about you exact situation.
The WAP54G is has no DCHP capabilities so I don't see how you could have
changed the "default IP range." You can connect to the WAP, but the WAP is
unable to connect to the network? Can you ping it from the other laptop?
Check the logs on your router to see if the WAP has connected to it. What is
the IP address of your router?

Take the Linksys setup CD and throw it in the trash. I've been in the
computer game only slightly longer than you and I learned to throw the CDs
that come with hardware away 6 years ago. Start from scratch, reset the WAP
to factory defaults, uninstall whatever the CD installed on your computer
and reboot. Use the manual, Chapter 7, and go through the settings. Be sure
NOT to setup any security features at this time, focus on connecting. Then
come back and explain exactly what is or isn't connecting and how you can
tell.

Steve



Posted by eM eL on February 7th, 2006


<antons@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Can you print from the laptop to the networked printer? Do you see the CNC
machine? What's your addressing scheme (static/dynamic IP) and if the
latter, which component runs the DHCP server? The WAP you are using is very
old so maybe there are some incompatibilities between the newer security
protocols and networking software of Windoze XP/SP2.

Try this: Uninstall the Linksys software (it's total trash IMO...) and use
Windows wireless config to establish the connection. Plain vanilla - just
accept the default settings on the Windows side. Connect the WAP using
your browser - (the address is 192.168.1.245) and reset all values to
defaults (disable MAC filtering, revert to the default SSID, enable SSID
broadcast, reset the default channel, disable all security settings, etc.)
Save configuration. Reboot your laptop - if it works, start changing
settings on the router/laptop one-by-one. If still no go try connecting the
WAP directly to the router and see what happens.
Beyond that - no idea.

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Posted by J. Clarke on February 19th, 2006


antons@optonline.net wrote:

I'm sure their suspicion is that you have a broken or defective router,
which I suspect they'll be happy to RMA if they can confirm that. But to
confirm that it's the router and not the wireless hardware in the computer
that is broken they need a test conducted with a third device.

This is a perfectly reasonable request IMO and if Linksys should have such a
disclaimer then every other manufacturer of wireless hardware should have
the same disclaimer.

If you bought it locally then why not take it back to the store and see if
they can sort it out?

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--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)


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