- Frame buffer memory?
- Posted by Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz on January 25th, 2004
I have an ELSA WINNER 2000PRO/X-2 display adapter, which uses an S3
968. ELSA does not supply a driver for Linux, but it works with the
generic VESA driver. I am getting really terrible performance and the
desktop looks fuzzy[1] at 1280x1024x8. I would like to reconfigure to
use frame buffer rather than BIOS. Does the memory for the frame
buffer come from my display adapter or from my system RAM? If the
former then I probably need to switch to 1152x864x16, but if the
latter then I'd like to try 1280x1024x16 or 1280x1024x32.
[1] It looks as though X is uses dithering to make up for the limited
color pallette.
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- Posted by Dirk on January 26th, 2004
"Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote in
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I shall answer the troll like questions.
WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP !
Should work with the generic SVGA driver.
ITS CRAP RUNNING LIKE CRAP.
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT.
To quote you "X is uses dithering to make up for the limited color
pallette."
Well its colours will be poor, and that might a bad mode for your display
device.
The card may have limitted RAM, it might be 1 meg, so the best mode you
would get is 800x600 x 16.
If it has 2 meg, then it is limitted to 1024x768x16, or 800x600x24 for 24
bit colour.
If when you change colour mode, its still looks like CRAP and its a CRT,
use a lesser mode like 1024x768, or 800x600.
If that doesnt work, your CRT is CRAP.
If its a LCD, use its native display resolution, which can be found by
following instructions as for CRT . If that doesnt work well, you have some
problem. Had an eye test lately ?
Native 'direct to the hardware' frame buffer support only exists for some
graphics chips because some speed freaks like to talk to their hardware
directly.
It doesnt provide any benefit for the S3 968, even if someone programmed it.
No one will provide the frame buffer support to the 968, because the VESA
mode is the best there is.
It does come from the display adaptor.
You would if you had a 19" CRT, but you are so clueless, you probably paid a
fortune for a 1 meg card at the markets,
or to your younger brother...
Yes it is.
- Posted by Whyld-Chyld on January 26th, 2004
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:55:00 -0500, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
If I recall correctly, the S3 chip is not fully hardware capable but is
more along the lines of Winmodems. I'd suggest you get yourself either a
cheap Nvidia TNT2 or Geforce2 card that's vesa2 compliant. I'm currently
using the TNT2 and principly use Framebuffer mode and it works quite well
with the generic vesa framebuffer support in the kernel.
- Posted by Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz on January 26th, 2004
In <4014bfee$1@news.rivernet.com.au>, on 01/26/2004
at 06:21 PM, "Dirk" <Dirk@DirkDiggler.Net> said:
And you are truly a jewel and an ornament to the m$ community.
Sorry, tonto, but only your response was troll like, not the question.
You made one stupid assumption after another. In fact, I'm believe
that you're a wintroll trying to make the Linux community look bad. Do
you have a brother named Bob?
It would be if I bought it in 2004. I didn't.
Yast tells me to use sax-vesa to configure X. Perhaps they know
something that you don't know.
No. The performance is excellent on my OS/2 system.
Useful answers.
They aren't, but thanks for playing.
And gill bates might be your brother. It's an excellent mode for the
display device; it may be a poor mode for xfree86 and KDE.
And Darl McBarratry might be honest. Did you ever wonder why the model
number ends in "-2"?
I normally use it at 1280x1024x8.
ROTF, LMAO! So tll me, m$ bob, how much is 1152x864x2?
Hey faygeleh, didn't it occur to you that if I have a card this old I
might have been using it for a while and have some vague idea of how
it looks on my current display?
Funny you should mention it. But 1280x1024 looked fine on a 17"
monitor as well.
Well, somebody is. You seem to have a propensity for making
dunderheaded assumptions instead of asking questions. But it takes
talent to make that many guesses and get every one of them wrong.
Yes, I've been running 1280x1024 for all these years on a 1 meg card.
Bung are you a dvitch!
Thank you for the one useful datum in your response. I'm sure that it
was an oversight.
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- Posted by Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz on January 28th, 2004
In <pan.2004.01.26.12.55.54.698653@example.com>, on 01/26/2004
at 04:55 AM, Whyld-Chyld <test@example.com> said:
Actually it performs quite well with decent drivers, and I get good
performance on my OS/2 system, even though it's a decade old. With
generic drivers, on either OS/2 or Linux, it is much slower. ELSA
supplies drivers for OS/2 and Unix, but not, alas, for Linux. In the
meantime, I tried 1152x864x16 and the display now looks acceptable,
although the performance[1] is not good.
Has Nvidia published the interface? When I upgrade[2] this machine
I'll be looking at display adapters that have open source drivers.
OTOH, I'm not into games and don't care about 3D.
How well does KDE perform with that?
Currently I have another machine with a much faster card that I can
use to play around with Linux, so this isn't a big issue. But I wanted
a usable Linux system on this machine for use when my wife is on the
other one.
Thanks.
[1] Keep in mind that it is an old machine; I would expect to see
much faster screen updates using the same card on a faster
machine.
[2] Finances permitting I want to eventually buy a new MB, new
display adapter, another SCSI hard drive and a DVD-RAM drive.
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