In uk.comp.os.linux Bagpuss <Bagpuss@nospam.cat> wrote:
alt.fan.linuxsale.die.die.die being the ultimate goal in this endeavour, no
doubt?

no-one does, or can "own" a group, unless they own the server the group is
on, and don't allow it to propagate.

pcplus.linux (etc) being good examples.