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MRTG problem
Posted by Ron Gibson on November 26th, 2003


I'm trying to install MRTG and can get past cfgmaker.

I'm using a D-Link DI-604 router.

This part in particular...
=============================
Cfgmaker creates MRTG configuration files based on infor-
mation pulled from a router or another SNMP manageable
device.

community@router

Community is the community name of the device you want to
create a configuration for. If not specified, it defaults
to 'public'; you might want to try this first if you do
not know the community name of a device. If you are using
the wrong comunity name you will get no response from the
device.

Router is the DNS name or the IP number of an SNMP-man-
agable device.
=========================================
I have no idea what they want for a name and community or public doesn't
work. I'm not sure what they mean by a DNS "name" either.

For the router IP there are only two options, it's local address
192.168.0.1
or it's WAN IP 4.4.230.171

None of these combos work and the utility bombs with an unable to query
router error.

I'm not real sure what they mean by "SNMP manageable" either.

Any ideas

Posted by Michael Heiming on November 26th, 2003


[Followup-To: set]

In comp.os.linux.misc Ron Gibson <ronBLOCK@rsgibson.com> wrote:
Are you sure this router supports SNMP? Sounds like some cheapo
@home stuff, but I might be wrong. Check the docs of your router.

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Posted by Ron Gibson on November 26th, 2003


Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:40:41 UTC, Michael Heiming
<michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> Noted:

Itls a $50 router. DO I need to spend a fortune to get this?

A emaiol to DLINK said it should work (I asked about that issue) but in
the same breath he suggested model...
=====================================
Products: DI-604
Operating System: Linux

Supposted to be compatible but if you still have problems you will need to
use another router like DI-804HV
=====================================

I looked at the specs on that ($65 for retail at newegg) and don't
see a lot different other than a RISC CPU, 16 MB RAM and a 1 MB
flash ROM. Same protocals.

But what is it that would require a different router? This is number two
as I chunked a Linksys and I'm tired of throwing away money on routers.
It takes me longer than the grace period to find the nits.

Posted by Michael Heiming on November 26th, 2003


Ron Gibson <ronBLOCK@rsgibson.com> wrote:
If you don't might, you might like to read the manual of your
router, it's all explained:

http://www.dk-tv.dk/Files/Filer/Di-604%20manual.pdf

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Posted by Leon. on November 27th, 2003


I'll let you pick my brain here.

I arent going to look that up.
I will tell you about SNMP only.


SNMP has two uses for the community name.
1. to ask for read only permission, or to ask for read/ write permission.
Yes, SNMP can write to the device, changing its configuration, on
writable items.
(statistics items arent writable).

2. to act as a password.
The default readonly community name/password is "public", and its often
referred to as the public community .

Although you probably have to turn SNMP on in the device, then set the
community( password)

If your router is known only by ip address 192.168.1.254 , and you set the
read only snmp community to be called "j55hgjjj" and of course left the
writeable SNMP community disabled, then you would tell cfgmaker t scan "
j55hgjjj@192.168.1.254"


well, " www.microsoft.com " is a DNS name. SNMP is meant to be for
professional services, and so would be expected to be used with routers that
had DNS names.... (because the enterprise has a domain name and a DNS
server, and a competent network administrator )



you would use its local IP address.


That just means that it talks SNMP, and you turned it on in the router
config system (web page, windows application, or telnet to the box )



Clearly you have no idea what SNMP is.
why didnt you read MRTG's "what is SNMP ? " doco, or links to such doco ?



Posted by Ron Gibson on November 27th, 2003


Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:37:38 UTC, Michael Heiming
<michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> Noted:

Thhat's not the same router I have. The European model is different and
there are several revisions. I have US rev E.

IOW, I have no such settings page.


Posted by Michael Heiming on November 27th, 2003


Ron Gibson <ronBLOCK@rsgibson.com> wrote:
Looks like you are out of luck then, no snmp, no mrtg querying
your router.

You could try searching groups.google.com with the keywords
"DI-604 snmp".

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Posted by ynotssor on November 27th, 2003


"Ron Gibson" <ronBLOCK@rsgibson.com> wrote in message
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[Re: SNMP]

Why don't you spend a few minutes and read the product manual then? It will
tell you how to enable and configure SNMP on the router if exists.

http://www.dlink.com/products/?model=DI-604 choose "Product Manual" and then
select the product revision that applies to your particular router, and
download the zip file that contains the product manual.


tony

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Posted by ynotssor on November 27th, 2003


"Ron Gibson" <ronBLOCK@rsgibson.com> wrote in message
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Nonsense: http://www.dlink.com/products/support.asp?pid=62&pv=17
Stop whining and start reading.

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Posted by Ron Gibson on November 27th, 2003


Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:58:50 UTC, Michael Heiming
<michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> Noted:

Yep

Worth a try.


Posted by Ron Gibson on November 27th, 2003


Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:45:01 UTC, "ynotssor" <"ynotssor"> Noted:

Why don't you stop pontificating and start blowing me you dumb fuck.

After that read the page yourself asshole.

I'ved been to that page 40 times and my router DOES NOT HAVE ANY
REFERENCE TO SNMP in it's manual or it's setup.

Get it braindead.

Geez, these new posters in Linux NG's are moronic beyond belief.


Posted by Chris F.A. Johnson on November 27th, 2003


On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 at 19:25 GMT, Ron Gibson wrote:
PLONK!!

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Posted by ynotssor on November 29th, 2003


"Ron Gibson" <ronBLOCK@rsgibson.com> wrote in message
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How very, very amusing. Don't be so hard on yourself. You've made 296 posts
to Usenet using your current address, only 5 of which have been made to
*any* Linux newsgroup, all 5 of which are in this thread, the rest of the
296 in alt.sports.football.*

You may consider yourself to be "moronic beyond belief", but I think you'll
find that if you take a timeout and spend some time to learn how to read,
you'll find that when there is no reference to SNMP in your router's manual,
that means that there is *no* SNMP functionality in your router.

Since I don't find the same pleasure in insulting people that you seem to,
and would rather give people the benefit of the doubt so to speak, I must
conclude that you simply don't know how to read, and want to somehow force
your router to support a desired protocol which it wasn't designed to
support.

Besides returning to an elementary-level education attempt, try to get the
occasional exercise too, instead of just watching football on television
while consuming a high-fat, high-calorie junk food diet.

You'll find that you'll feel much better, and will lose both weight and your
childish anger. Lurning 2 reed is guuud.

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Posted by Ron Gibson on November 30th, 2003


Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:34:31 UTC, "Leon." <leon@noteon.net> Noted:

Because the first task was to determine whether SNMP was a property of
certain routers and that wasn't referenced.

It turns out that answer is yes and mine doesn't do it (or have a
settings page for it).

Clearly you had no idea what I was asking. Why didn't you read closer?



Posted by Ron Gibson on November 30th, 2003


Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:02:07 UTC, "ynotssor" <"ynotssor"> Noted:

Were you born that stupid or did you learn how to get that way eunuch.
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for group:*linux*
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from May 12, 1990 to today.
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Now crawl back up close to mommy child.

Geez, the new breed, lorons = linux cretins with small craniums.

Have a nice day punk.

Posted by ynotssor on November 30th, 2003


In article <eleS4DQ3N6dS-pn2-dcRwkP0y7ERI@localhost> Ron Gibson
<ronBLOCK@rsgibson.com> wrote:

Yes, you really need to learn how to read. "Using your current address"
was quite clear, but just as in your inability to read your user manual
for the router, it's causing you some big problems.

Enjoy your anger.

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Posted by Tauno Voipio on December 1st, 2003



"Ron Gibson" <ronBLOCK@rsgibson.com> wrote in message
news:eleS4DQ3N6dS-pn2-N5IMi4bYRyG0@localhost...
If you do not have the SNMP settings page and it should be there according
to the manual, you're OOL. Start arguing with the vendor of the crippled
box, not us.

Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio @ iki fi




Posted by Ron Gibson on December 1st, 2003


Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:08:42 UTC, "Tauno Voipio"
<tauno.voipio@iki.fi.NOSPAM.invalid> Noted:

Damn there are some stupid asses in here. There are multiple versions
shit for brains.

My manual and revision correspond exactly.

Is that simple enough or do I need to use smaller words for smaller
minds.

This is a case where the RTFM idiots need to taste their own vitriol.

Link to my manual...

ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Gateway/di604_re...manual_205.zip

Read it yourself clown.



Posted by Ed Murphy on December 2nd, 2003


On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:47:57 +0000, Ron Gibson wrote:

[snip further vitriol]

Honestly, do you have /no/ idea how utterly self-defeating this attitude
is? I don't know the first thing about SNMP, but even if I did, you are
just about the /last/ person to whom I would offer assistance.

Breathe and reboot, and try proceeding from the assumption that people
are honestly mistaken, rather than deliberately malicious. This is not
Joe Luser complaining about "tha broken Intarweb", after all.


Posted by Ron Gibson on December 2nd, 2003


Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:15:33 UTC, Ed Murphy <emurphy42@socal.rr.com> Noted:

Read the thread. It starts with a perfectly polite question and the
"RTFM" idiots proceed with their circle jerk. They are so ignorant they
reply with answers from the wrong model that wasn't even part of the
question.

Then tell me to read my manual and it's sitting in PDF form on my
drive??? Give me a break. That condescending stupidity.

I've used Linux for years and in the last 3 years we have been
inundated with these morons.

Another one is "Try Google"

How in the hell does anything ever make Google if everyone says try
Google?

People can do two *reasonable* things.

Answer the question or shut their piehole and not waste bandwidth
pontificating.

Now if you don't know the answer which seems the more logical option?

But no, instead they answer a question not asked???

That's just plain stupid. How else can you describe it?

I've provided many answers over the years to others and frankly it's my
way of protesting the pencil necked geeks that wanna be important.

And you do have an option. If you don't like it, hit the next article
button.

I have an option too. When replied to by moronic responses I can
respond in kind or ratchet up the level of obnoxiousness. Or I can not
respond at all.

I prefer to call a jerk a jerk when I see one. You have a optimistic
view of USENET. It is overwhelmed with this type of jerk.



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