jsiltala@cc.helsinki.fi (Juha Kustaa Siltala) wrote in message news:<slrnbflfkl.8pq.jsiltala@kruuna.Helsinki.FI>. ..
I suppose you're right... Maybe if I keep using windows and look on
Linux as a side project for really boring days, I'll eventually get to
use it more.
However... if Linux really wants to kick MS ass, my granny should be
able to load it and have it running in an evening.
Maybe someone can do a "Linux for grannies" distribution. (In the UK
they are the biggest new users, I gather)

Mark K.

Mark writes:
Linux is an operating system (or a kernel if you favor strict definitions).
It makes no sense to say that it "wants" anything.

How long did it take your granny to load Windows and have it running?

Nothing is preventing you from doing so.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

In article <d64a268.0306260743.23de9055@posting.google.com> , MarkK wrote:

Just one other thing. Linux doesn't want to kick anybody's ass. It's not a
very competetive system in that way. The community wants to make Linux as
good as it can get, for themselves. Most people don't care if your Grannie
uses it or not.

On the other side, using Linux, after it's set up right, is the easiest
thing in the world. You just need somebody to set it up. In the Unix
world, there are admins and users. Unfortunately (maybe), the current
"desktop Linux" wave is favoring an attitude to Linux which is kind of
alien to the Unix world.

It's the old thing that they always say about Debian GNU/Linux: it's hell
to set up but a joy to use. To some degree, it applies to all Linux
distrubutions, even the new "newbie frienly" ones.

--
Juha Siltala

Jean-David Beyer <jdbeyer@exit109.com> wrote in message news:<3EFB179F.90307@exit109.com>...
Very encouraging. Just think, if they'd been able to install it
themselves, all their granny friends would now be lining up to buy
Linux.
Mark K.

John Hasler <john@dhh.gt.org> wrote in message news:<87fzlw6cv2.fsf@toncho.dhh.gt.org>...
I think you know what I mean.

Irrelevant. Grannies don't load anything at the moment, but windows is
easiest right now.

Interest is, I already have other hobbies. I'm sure however that some
Linux writers have grannies that would be very proud of them if they
did come up with "Linux for grannies". I'm certain it would be a huge
hit.
Mark K.

I wrote:
Mark writes:
My guess is that you are referring to some sort of political or commercial
organization. There is no such animal.

Grannies need not install Linux either.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

grante@visi.com (Grant Edwards) wrote in message news:<3efb2e80$0$645$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com> ...
I don't know any granny who's ever installed any OS. I also doubt your
statement, particularly without all the hardware drivers. If it
prompted her to get a driver, she'd call a Taxi.

Why not "before" ??? You folks already have the edge on MS, use it.

Mark K.

jsiltala@cc.helsinki.fi (Juha Kustaa Siltala) wrote in message news:<slrnbfml7i.b98.jsiltala@kruuna.Helsinki.FI>. ..
That touches on the point I'm making.

Exactly. I'm sure, however that many of those who want to convert, do
so because they don't like MS, nor their OS.
If those who write Linux are so pleased with it, why not please their
granny?

If it weren't for "the new wave" I wouldn't be wanting to try it.

Obviously that's something that needs working on.

Mark K.

John Hasler <john@dhh.gt.org> wrote in message news:<87y8zo4au1.fsf@toncho.dhh.gt.org>...
If a cash-strapped pensioner wanting to get into computing could,
they'd snap up a cheap "Linux for grannies" instead of windows.
Mark K.

MarkK wrote:

I think this kind of sums up what other people have said. You seem as
though you are the sort of person who is all willing to take but not
give back.

The beauty of Linux & Open Source is that it is created by many people,
who contribute a little to everyone. Even if you are not a techy, why
not write some tutorials or guides on how to assist the "granny" users.

Remember Microsoft has the money and the resources to force people to
use their stuff, our community only has the people (which is its
greatest asset).

If you find Linux doesn't have something you want, do something about
it. If you are not a programmer/developer, mention it to others (for
example the KDE/GNOME/<insert DE here> projects) but contribute
something that you can do (e.g. Documentation).

Lee.

Lee writes:
And if you can't do anything, pay someone else to do it.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Lee W <lee@unassemble.co.uk> wrote in message news:<P_ZKa.86$Ls.744@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>...
No, I'm willing to pay for it.

I have other projects that I find more interesting. One has to make
the most of summer in the UK, I also have some winter projects
waiting. Maybe in a few years, but I already waste too much time on
the computer.


You're right there.... and because you haven't been stripped of
altruism that's why I think you're the best people to come up with a
distro for grannies.

Well, I'm mentioning it here.

Hmm... driving a bandwagon is too big a pastime for me. I do think
that there are better connected people out there that may think a
Linux for grannies would be a good project.

Mark K.

(I'm not a granny, btw.)