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Total newbie question
Posted by daz on March 2nd, 2004


Hi Guys

This is what I want to achieve: Have a 1GHz laptop, 512mb ram, 20gb
drive built in nic.. I have a couple of domains running on another
laptop with win2000/apache/php/mysql using virtual hosts

I want to move over to Linux, I have no reason but feel it's for the
best..


I want to run:

an ftp server with quotas
apache
mysql
php
mail server to accept multiple domains

I'm on broadband behind a hardware firewall

So, my question is what distro is right for me and do you have any
advice? I tried Mandrake and RedHat a few years back and didn't have a
clue what I was doing.

Just thinking of the shell command line makes me sweat so something
nice with lots of options sounds good

Thanks for ya help

Daz

Posted by at on March 3rd, 2004


On 2 Mar 2004 13:29:07 -0800, dazno1@aol.com (daz) wrote:

Daz;

My $.02 worth:

Many of the distros offer free downloads and/or trials which you
should take advantage of. Each of the distros I've worked with come
with their own version of a system admin tool for configuring exactly
what you want.

Most distros will install the servers you mention as a default and the
GUI admins allow you to start them up.

With ANY distro I would recommend downloading and installing WEBMIN.
This is a web based system configuration tool that just works
wonderfully. Again, you can define and start as well as manage
virtually any type of server/system function with this tool.

So, the distro is one of personal preference. We use RH8, Suse7.3,
Xandros 2.0 and Lindows 4.5 on our various system and each has their
strong points. Again, trial and error. Person choice.

Good luck.

Bob

Posted by Peter Valdemar Mørch on March 3rd, 2004


daz wrote:
Hate to tell you, but my experience with SuSE, RedHat 8.0+9 and Fedora
Core 1 is that inevitably, I ended up having to go to the command line,
edit configuration files etc to get things as I wanted them. The GUIs
hide what is really going on behind the scenes.

I love Linux, but be aware that this is not windows. You probably have
spent a long time getting to know Windows too, and you'll probably have
to spend some time (at least as much?) with Linux too to get things
working as you want them.

Anyway, that was my experience.

Peter
--
Peter Valdemar Mørch
http://www.morch.com

Posted by D on March 3rd, 2004


Agree w/Peter. If command line makes you sweaty, better think hard before
converting what seems to be a fairly thick setup you have there to Linux.
That said, I wouldn't totally discourage it. Find a GUI distro that you like
and jump in head first! They say, if you're not screwing something up,
you're not doing anything.

-D

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Posted by daz on March 3rd, 2004


Least I have a spare laptop to mess up

Thinking about it a bit more, I would like to go for one of the main
distros, redhat/mandrake/debian/suse

but am unsure.. I'm willing to muck in.. I have tried mandrakemove
today and it seems friendly - but do I want friendly and nice or do I
want a strong base? If I had to, I would muck in the shell, I'm happy
hacking an apache config but some general linux config files I've seen
look overwhelming

I've heard great things about these distros but value your opinions

From what I've read, suse is good for driver support, mandrake is all
nice and fluffy, redhat is industry strength while debian is a little
behind but solid

Thanks

Daz

Posted by daz on March 4th, 2004


I've bought a dummies guide to Fedora with a cd, there were other
books but this one seems to cover apache/php/mysql

Someone say a prayer for me


Daz

Posted by D on March 4th, 2004


May the force be with you, Daz.

-D

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Posted by Juha Siltala on March 4th, 2004


In article <1078423372.497533@nnrp1.phx1.gblx.net>, D wrote:

First you top-post (which I fixed). Then you misspell "source"

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Posted by daz on March 5th, 2004


Have no idea what top-post is..

I'm only a simple windows user

Downloaded Fedora core 1, just burning the 3 iso's now

Posted by Ed Murphy on March 5th, 2004


On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:49:47 -0800, daz wrote:

Top-posting means writing your reply above the quoted material,
as in the following example:

----- begin example of top-posting ----

Red. No, blue-- AAAAAAAAAAGH!

------ end example of top-posting ------

What's *really* important is to delete any quoted material that
you're not replying to, and then place each part of your reply
right below the part of the quoted material that it's replying
to, like this:

----- begin example of interleaved posting -----

King Arthur.

I seek the Holy Grail.

Green.

That was easy.

------ end example of interleaved posting ------


Posted by daz on March 6th, 2004


I think I've just lost the will to live..

ok.. got fedora on.. for the nth time after playing around <g>

The install is 1.2gb, seems a lot compared to winy2k? I removed the
desktops (x/gnome) and had a twiddle with bash (even installed an
rpm!)

Have to say, the commands/navigation is very logical when you think
about it..

I tried to install apache, but it keeps telling me it needs libraries.
I've searched the rpms folder and can't find them, but if I run a
server install via the setup wizard it's fine

What I want to achieve is have linux boot up in shell, with
apache,mysql and php/perl whatever running so all the other crap isn't
installed.. Like a lean mean webserver machine.. or should I install a
desktop just to be safe?

Least I'm learning!


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