- 802.11b embedded module needed
- Posted by Stefano Adami on February 16th, 2004
Hi all,
I'm looking for a 802.11b module to embedd into a wearable mobile system.
The system architecture
has no PCI controller thus no miniPCI (or similar interface) are
interesting. There is no need to
remove the wi-fi engine so I'm looking for a fixed mounted solution (also,
all the solution on a
card are not the best in many extreme environment) letting me to connect
the RF antenna outisde
the box.
What I need could be a module with USB interface (not a USB dongle) or CF
interface on a SMD mount
package. Any suggestion?
Ciao,Stefano
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- Posted by maxfoo on February 16th, 2004
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:02:40 +0100, Stefano Adami
<s.adami.xxx@exadron.com.nospam> wrote:
will a 2"x2" pcb with a pll, vco, amp, and pic12c508 do? puts out +15dBm at 2.35
to 2.65ghz channel spacing 125khz...
I may have some extra boards...if interested
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- Posted by hamilton on February 17th, 2004
maxfoo wrote:
Is this device 802.11b compatable, or just uses 2.xxghz freq ??
If you have boards, do you have a schematic also ??
- Posted by Stefano Adami on February 17th, 2004
In data Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:01:23 GMT, maxfoo
<maxfooHeadFromButt@punkass.com> ha scritto:
configure it for 802.11b standard by myself. Is it a certified wi-fi board
or a general purpose one?
Stefano
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- Posted by Jeremy Bentham on February 17th, 2004
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:02:51 +0100, Stefano Adami
<s.adami.xxx@exadron.com.nospam> wrote:
Sound an interesting board for experimentation, but impossible to make
802.11-compatible, If you want to use a standard WLAN card, take a
look at our PICmicro product, www.iosoft.co.uk/wlan2.php
Jeremy Bentham
Iosoft Ltd.
- Posted by maxfoo on February 18th, 2004
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:58:11 -0700, hamilton <hamilton@deminsional.com> wrote:
No it is not 802.11b... it's a PLL fractional synthesizer LO uses National semi
PLL lmx2353 chip phase noise is 85dbc/hz at 10khz offset...
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- Posted by maxfoo on February 18th, 2004
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:02:51 +0100, Stefano Adami
<s.adami.xxx@exadron.com.nospam> wrote:
no, it is just a very stable LO you would have to modulate/demod the data
yourself...
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- Posted by Stefano Adami on February 18th, 2004
In data Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:33:38 +0000, Jeremy Bentham
<jben@iosoft.nospam.uk> ha scritto:
looking for a module to integrate in my system with the RF connector for
the antenna.
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- Posted by Richard on February 18th, 2004
Stefano Adami wrote:
You can buy Wi-Fi PCMCIA cards with an RF connector for an external
antenna, they're just not as common.
Even major manufacturers take this approach - for a long time (and maybe
still) Cisco's access points used PCMCIA cards for the radio portion,
with diverse antennas even.
- Posted by Walt on February 26th, 2004
Even the big manufactures, who build the chips, use existing
PCMCIA Wi-Fi cards within their products. For example, take
a part a Lucent USB client, or a Lucent RG1x00 base station.
Inside, you will find a PCMCIA Wi-Fi card with a "glue" chip
controlling it.
Stefano Adami wrote:
- Posted by Alessandro Strazzero on February 27th, 2004
Stefano Adami <s.adami.xxx@exadron.com.nospam> wrote in message news:<opr3j38cb6sufdhg@news.interbusiness.it>...
Take a look at MAXIM WEB site. They recently sent me their journal explaining
a two-chips solution to provide for 802.11b interface
Best Regards
/Alessandro
- Posted by Stefano ads on March 1st, 2004
In data Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:45:10 -0500, Walt <NoSpamForWalt@Early.com> ha
scritto:
case of a metal box (as it is in my case). A sub-optimum solution could be
a pcmcia card with a RF connector instead of the antenna on it. Do you
know anything like this?
Stefano
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- Posted by Moises Cambra on March 1st, 2004
They could be more difficult to find, but they exist:
http://www.seattlewireless.net/index...wareComparison
Moises Cambra
- Posted by RusH on March 1st, 2004
Stefano ads <s.adami.xxx@exadron.com.nospam> wrote :
Orinoco card like the one i this RG1x00 
or Senao 200mW
Pozdrawiam.
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- Posted by Steve Letkeman on March 1st, 2004
I'm looking at adding a wireless link to a Palm device or WinCE
handheld that will communicate to my embedded controller. Here
is the criteria
- around the house range is good enough
- low data speed, even 20-50kbps is good enough.
- off the shelf module for the embedded side with interface to micro
without buying/developing complex protocol stack.
- Method of writing software for the handheld, Appforge, VB etc
that handles protocol issues and allows (relatively) simple access to data.
Is there a clear pro/con between going Bluetooth vs. 802 for this
use? What if I want the handheld device to also talk to a PC running a
..net application, does that make a difference in the decision?
Thanks for any comments or suggestions,
Steve
- Posted by Jeremy Bentham on March 2nd, 2004
"Steve Letkeman" <usenetpost2@zanthic.com> wrote:
The Bluetooth Personal Area Network (PAN) was designed as a wireless
replacement for simple point-to-point links, so if you only need
RS232-type functionality, then that might be the direction to go.
If you require true networking, then you're better off with an 802.11
WLAN, since it is efficetively a wireless version of Ethernet. The
embedded 802.11 market is relatively new, so you don't have a wide
range of options to choose from, and at present the embedded system
might require a bit more effort to set up, but soon it'll be a lot
easier.
The success of 802.11-type WLAN technologies does suggest that slow
point-to-point links are inadequate for the wireless home or office,
so a WLAN solution should be more future-proof.
My company has pioneered embedded 802.11 technology, and has no
Bluetooth products, so I must admit to some commercial bias in
this....
Jeremy Bentham
Iosoft Ltd.
- Posted by Steve Letkeman on March 2nd, 2004
For this application, plugging an RS-232 to BT adapter into the
embedded side of things would work quite well. Using BT
allows an off the shelf equipped PDA to talk to it. I wonder
if it is as easy as programming eVB on the PDA to talk over
a serial channel?
"Max" <mtj2@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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- Posted by Jeremy Bentham on March 2nd, 2004
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:33:39 +0000 (UTC), Max <mtj2@btopenworld.com>
wrote:
Maybe, but it is much more complex.
Perhaps this is the central problem of Bluetooth - it is used as a
simple data transport, when it is actually a complicated aggregation
of many protocols, with configuration profiles to customise its
behaviour to a variety of perceived communication needs.
I don't understand the benefits of this bloatware; whatever happened
to the idea that a network transport is simple and unreliable, with
the higher-layer protocols adding reliability and functionality?
Jeremy Bentham
Iosoft Ltd.