- Cheapest object sensor on the market!
- Posted by raedarrar on April 6th, 2008
Hi all...I need the cheapest possible object sensor on the market to embe
it onto a circuit board, any range between 100mm to 0mm, even a touch o
pressure sensor which ever is cheaper. CapSense from Cypress is a perfec
solution for my application because of its size, would not have been fo
the price ($1.40). Is any one knows of a cheaper solution and that i
would not need a micro controller. I do not need a long life sensor as i
is a disposable kind of product.
- Posted by Rich Webb on April 6th, 2008
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 08:38:55 -0500, "raedarrar" <info@0-800.tv> wrote:
The design constraints would be satisfied by a bit of wire that's
pushed onto a solder pad, so perhaps there are unstated
considerations?
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Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
- Posted by raedarrar on April 6th, 2008
to pass a total cost of $1 (Sensor, cheap Liquid Cristal display, coi
Battery with a hight not more than 3mm. I need a product that last only 3
hours of use. Low life sensor, whichever would be the cheapest solutio
(touch, reflective, capacitive or photosensor).
Where should i found one or may be how to do one on the circuit board.
- Posted by larwe on April 6th, 2008
If you are looking for a low-life sensor, you will find that many
humans have one integrated. Perhaps you could find a dealer in surplus
humans and salvage them for parts?
You need to clarify just what the hell you mean by an "object sensor"
if you expect any useful help.
- Posted by linnix on April 6th, 2008
On Apr 6, 6:38 am, "raedarrar" <i...@0-800.tv> wrote:
If you mean buttons, then the cheapest solution is rubber w/
conductive base. Rubber buttons are approx. 25 cents. The contact
points are on the PCB, using uC debouncings. You also mention LCD,
which would be difficult to do without uC or a dedicated controller.
- Posted by Nils on April 6th, 2008
How about the crude touch-sensors from early tv remote controls (think
70th)?
These where just two electrodes (part of the PCB) and a very simple
analog transistor-circuit that measures the presence of body-resistance.
Won't work for users with gloves on, but it will be cheap for sure.
Nils
- Posted by donald on April 6th, 2008
raedarrar wrote:
What are you trying to measure ?
- Posted by raedarrar on April 6th, 2008
Any thing moves or waves in front of it, in my case to detect hands.
- Posted by raedarrar on April 6th, 2008
If you mean buttons?
No, i will use a smart card type size, thickness can go as hight as 3m
max.
Any idea on a solution?
- Posted by raedarrar on April 6th, 2008
What are you trying to measure?
I am not trying to measure a distance, but want to detect a hand or
finger when it comes within 50mm to 100mm.
- Posted by linnix on April 6th, 2008
On Apr 6, 1:15 pm, "raedarrar" <i...@0-800.tv> wrote:
Can you detect change in lighting?
- Posted by raedarrar on April 6th, 2008
Thanks Nils, as I will try your advice once i ran our of the other option
as touch would be my last one.
Do you have another option (not touch) as cheap as the one above tha
detects within 50mm to 100mm?
- Posted by raedarrar on April 6th, 2008
I only need to detect the presence of a hand! if detect change in lightin
maybe in a situation where a changing in room lighting might get i
conflict without the presence of the hand, how would i control it in orde
not to happen?
- Posted by linnix on April 6th, 2008
On Apr 6, 1:54 pm, "raedarrar" <i...@0-800.tv> wrote:
You can detect rapid change in lighting, or even temperature if the
finger is close enough.
- Posted by linnix on April 6th, 2008
On Apr 6, 1:54 pm, "raedarrar" <i...@0-800.tv> wrote:
You are not telling us what to do with the hand wavings. If you are
using it to turn on the device, false triggers (room lighting changes)
might not matter. If you are using it to count votes, then it does
matter.
- Posted by larwe on April 6th, 2008
On Apr 6, 5:02*pm, linnix <m...@linnix.info-for.us> wrote:
Devices like motion-sensitive toys use an AC-coupled circuit triggered
by a change in the resistance of a CdS cell. It's very cheap, but will
be triggered every time the lights in a room are switched off and on.
- Posted by larwe on April 6th, 2008
On Apr 6, 4:22*pm, "raedarrar" <i...@0-800.tv> wrote:
Google "digital theremin". With essentially a schmitt-trigger inverter
and a few passives, you can create a capacitance-based circuit to
detect the approach of a body part. But it is fairly difficult to
design one that is tolerant of voltage and temperature changes. Easier
with a micro. TI also has an app note on doing this with an
MSP430F20xx, which is very cheap in large quantity - well under your
price target.
- Posted by raedarrar on April 6th, 2008
Ok, great! which would be the cheapest solution?
- Posted by linnix on April 6th, 2008
Probably not. The OP wants $1 total BOM. Lets figure 0.25 for PCB,
0.25 for LCD, 0.40 for LCD controller. The uC needs to be less than
10 cents.
- Posted by raedarrar on April 6th, 2008
Every time the device detects object in this case hands or fingers, i nee
it to count votes as long as its on. any advice?