The following is an extract from a RFQ I recently received:

There are further idiocies, such as failure to specify OS.

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Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
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"CBFalconer" <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:45DE9609.44D7002F@yahoo.com...
I bet they top post as well :-)

Michael Kellett

www.mkesc.co.uk

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:37:35 -0000, "MK" <nospam@please.com> wrote:

No they don´t. They remove all contents from previous messages because
they use Google.

Except the signature, they always keep it

Regards

Zara

CBFalconer wrote:

That should make for entertaining reading, nearly as good as reading a
European directive.

have they never heard of PDF printers?

Paul Burke

CBFalconer wrote:

This is aparently independent of the OS. Pdf files
can be created to be not printable. That they cannot
be saved is dreaming.

Rene
--
Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net

CBFalconer said:

<snip>
Make sure that you print the secretly patented super-secret spy special
attack squirrel secret-agent invisible security code onto each sheet of
paper, so that any honorable photocopier or scanner will know its duty
when presented with a print-out from one of these documents. Oh, and
arm the cleaners.

A relatively innocent omission. Probably they didn't bother to mention
it because they just assumed that *everybody* uses CP/M.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at the above domain, - www.

CBFalconer <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> writes:

They could have simplified the specs dramatically:

"Certain users should be allowed to read the pdf files, but they should not
be able to read the pdf files."


--
espen

CBFalconer wrote:
I'd say those are not very unusual requirements. There is a number of
web services for the document hosting which provide the access rights
like that.

Vladimir Vassilevsky

DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant

http://www.abvolt.com

Vladimir Vassilevsky <antispam_bogus@hotmail.com> writes:

How are they able to let the customers download a file to print it, and
not be able to save it? How are they able to watch a file (in clear text),
and not be copy it? Thats beyond me. If you can create such a system, I
bet you get rich. It should be easy to create an obfuscated system preventing
grandma from copying , but a somewhat computer literaded person?

Have you ever tried copy and paste from xpdf?


--
espen

On Feb 23, 4:08 am, Rene Tschaggelar <n...@none.net> wrote:


Open-source PDF viewers are not obliged to honor the "disable
printing" bit.

For further details, contact Dmitri Skylarov.

Espen Myrland wrote:

[...]

[...]

It doesn't matter how hard the data is kept, there is always a way to
steal it. And every computer literate fool knows that.

The purpose of this document is the demonstration of the strict policy
about handling the sensitive information.


The owners of the document access web systems are probably doing OK.

It should be easy to create an obfuscated system preventing

It does not matter. This is a legal document, which requires that all
measures whatever possible should have taken.


Vladimir Vassilevsky

DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant

http://www.abvolt.com

On 2007-02-23, larwe <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> wrote:
The last time I checked, there were password/encryption schemes
that were are only available in Adobe Acrobat Reader (which
honors the don't print, don't "cut/copy" bits).

Of course it's only a matter of time before the open-source
viewers add support. Or until somebody hackes Adobe Acrobat
Reader to disable the honoring of the various permission bits.

For all practical purposes: if it can be viewed, it can be
printed, saved, edited, and copied. Anybody who pretends
otherwise is deluded.

[Unless you only allow people to view it on a physically secure
computer you've set up in a physically secure room you
control.]

--
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at with SOY SAUCE!
visi.com

On 2007-02-23, Vladimir Vassilevsky <antispam_bogus@hotmail.com> wrote:

Not at all unusual.

Just impossible.

They attempt to.

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at speaking ENGLISH?
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On 2007-02-23, Espen Myrland <tmp@toycompute.net> wrote:

Yes. It didn't work for some of my documents. I fixed xpdf,
now it works for all documents.

[It's beyond me why a vendor would provide an application note
for a device containing lists of constants you are required to
use in your source code and then not allow you to copy/paste
the constants.]

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at
visi.com

Grant Edwards wrote:
That's usually purely accidental - did you give them feedback so they
could fix it ?

-jg

On 2007-02-23, Jim Granville <no.spam@designtools.maps.co.nz> wrote:

I probably should have, but I didn't.

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at Sid?... Is your BEVERAGE
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:05:29 -0600, Grant Edwards wrote
(in article <12tu0lprhk44f1e@corp.supernews.com>):

It's been a long time since tech pubs people had a clue.



--
Randy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR)
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those
who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:21:45 -0500, CBFalconer <cbfalconer@yahoo.com>
wrote:

While working as a consultant doing low level stuff, you still must
analyze the commercial viability of your customer's requirements, at
least if you expect to receive your payment in time :-).

Paul