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Renesas R8C Start up problem
Posted by icegray on October 14th, 2005


Hi,
I have used LM1086-3.3 lowdrop regulator and R8C cpu. Reset circuit is
only pull-up.
CPU doesn't start up right. External oscillator doesn't run when I turn
on power. If I reset the CPU externaly everthing is OK.
Can you recommend something?

Posted by Paul Carpenter on October 14th, 2005


On 14 Oct, in article
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usrdr@yahoo.co.uk "icegray" wrote:

What no cap?

Put a cap between pull up and ground.

Are all parts (pull-up, cpu and external oscillator) on the SAME power
rail.


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Posted by Grzegorz Mazur on October 14th, 2005


icegray wrote:
At least in R8C/1x series the external osc is not supposed to start when
you reset the CPU. It must be started by firmware.
Also, the built-in reset circuit in R8C/11 and /13 is designed to
operate at +5V - check is parameters in the data sheet. For 3V operation
an external RC circuit is needed.

Posted by icegray on October 15th, 2005


there is a capacitor between reset pin and gnd, also there are 10uF and
some 100nF between Vcc and GND. all component power line is same.
Xout pin -one pin of oscillator- connected to CPLD.

What a stupid problem.

Thanks

Posted by icegray on October 15th, 2005


Problem is values of resistor and capacitor on the reset circuit. 22K
and 100nF are true values

Posted by Anthony Fremont on October 15th, 2005



"icegray" <usrdr@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1129374479.298473.33730@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
Maybe the problem is not with the Reset pull-up, but with Vcc ramping up
too slow. 10uF is not extremely large, but if power leads are long the
LC combination may make Vcc ramp up too slow when you apply power. I've
had problems with this when tinkering around and using long, skinny clip
leads to connect power. Also perhaps not enough capacitance on external
osc to start reliably.


Posted by narender64 on May 15th, 2007


Hi The damn thing giving me the same problem.
there is a pull up resistor 5k from reset pin to vcc. vcc 5v
manual grounding of reset is not working , power on reset not working
some times it resets but rarely.
is there a desing problem in the renesas ?
Narender





Posted by Mori on May 15th, 2007



"narender64" <narender@saineni.net> wrote in message
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Perhaps you need an RC on reset pin.
Add a 1uf cap from RESET to GND and see if that helps.



Posted by Grzegorz Mazur on May 15th, 2007


narender64 wrote:
Which R8C variant do you use?
Some (like /12) don't provide internal reset at all. Some may use reset
ONLY if supplied from 5V. Only the new ones from /2x family provide
internal reset at lower suply voltages and only if the rising time
condition is met.

Posted by CBFalconer on May 16th, 2007


narender64 wrote:
What is a 'desing problem'?

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