"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> In article <wsM7f.275281$cw3.156999@fe01.news.easynews.com> ,
> no@spam.invalid says...
>> The updates in from Symantec 'I understand' affected all users, anyone
>> want a review of Symantec only needs to look at user comment's on
>> various shopping sites, you will see more bad comments than good.
>> Also you will see comments like AVG found viruses that Symantec had
>> missed
>
> We cleaned all the computers in a Sorority this year (we do it each
> year) and there were machines from Win98 to XP+Sp2 and even 1 MAC this
> year. A short summary of the results was that only the machines running
> Norton/Symantec AV were clean, 2 machines running NAV/Symantec without
> any updates had a couple trojans, all machines running McAfee, CA, and
> AVG had at least 1 or more Trojans/viruses.
>
> It was interesting to see that there were many less viruses infections
> this year (around 100 total infection files), last year there were over
> 8000 viruses/trojans on their machines.
>
> My impression of Symantec has been that their non-AV software is total
> Crap, if you combine their non-AV software with their AV software you
> still have total crap. If you only run their AV software (not NIS or any
> suite from them) then you get a stable (mostly for most people) AV
> product that is better than any other (except for KAP).
>
> While you do see many posts about Symantec AV and Norton AV, as normal
> with Usenet, you only really see the people complaining about real
> problems - you almost never see posts stating that a product has worked
> great and if you do, it's only from a tiny fraction of people that are
> using it.
>
> My experience in the corporate and residential markets has been that
> Symantec's AV products are almost perfectly rocksolid, my experience,
> with the exception of running Symantec AV on SBS2003 with SBS2003 SP1,
> has been that it's fast, easy, and not any problem at all. While you can
> discount this experience, it doesn't change the FACT that I'm not
> experiencing any problems with Symantec or Norton AV products on
> corporate or residential systems. As for the other vendors, I've got
> less installs of AVG, McAfee, CA, etc... and I have more problems with
> those (and lack of protection) combined than with all of my Symantec AV
> / Norton AV products installed.

We use Symantec AV in my office. The switch was made from McAfee three
years ago and the NETOPS people are very pleased withthe performance. I
have used Norton AV on my personal systems at home and was not very pleased
with them, not for their AV protection but for the perofrmnace drain on the
systems. McAfee was much less of a drain and performs well. Onmy desktop,
my license for McAfee expired and I decided to use Avast Pro and so far I'm
happy with the decision. I won't use Norton AV or any other Symantec
product on my own systems.

Seriously, you guys need to learn to stop auto quoting everything. very
annoying when you are trying to follow everything.

Wilf wrote:
> kurttrail said ...
>> I hear a bunch of Symancrapphants are
>> jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge, maybe you'd like to follow them.
>>
> well, it would be a reaI shameful waste of money to fly all the way
> from the U.K. to the U.S. of A. just to jump off a bridge. What if I
> just use Tower Bridge right here in London? Actually, I don't use
> Symantec/Norton products anyway (happy enough using ZA-AV - oh god,
> I'm not supposed to tell anyone what I use, am I?)

You goofed. Better watch out, the Symancrapphants will come and get
you, no matter where you hide.

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Leythos wrote:
> In article <OxMdl1h2FHA.2492@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>,
> dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org says...
>> I've heard you BS about how many people run Symancrap products
>> without any problems, and you have come up with one source to back
>> that up except yourself.
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned you a just a bold-faced LIAR!
>>
>>> While I understand that some people do have problems, and I've never
>>> discounted those people's problems with it, the vast majority would
>>> seem to not have any problems with their Anti-Virus products.
>>
>> You have no idea about the vast majority! Hell, I've worked on
>> computers that had hardware problems, only to also find numerous
>> viruses also, on computers running NAV with Live Update set to Auto!
>> And the user was totally unaware he had any viruses!
>
> To quote you concerning this believe that Symantec is unworkable on
> any system, "As far as I'm concerned you a just a bold-faced LIAR!"

Yes you are just a bold-faced LIAR, since I NEVER said anything like,
"Symantec is unworkable on any system."

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Davy wrote:
>> quote="kurttrail
>> How old is that engine?
>
> About as old as DOS....
>
> Davy

LOL! Long time for this flaw to go unnoticed by Symancrap.

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Leythos wrote:
> In article <wsM7f.275281$cw3.156999@fe01.news.easynews.com> ,
> no@spam.invalid says...
>> The updates in from Symantec 'I understand' affected all users,
>> anyone want a review of Symantec only needs to look at user
>> comment's on various shopping sites, you will see more bad comments
>> than good. Also you will see comments like AVG found viruses that
>> Symantec had missed
>
> We cleaned all the computers in a Sorority this year (we do it each
> year) and there were machines from Win98 to XP+Sp2 and even 1 MAC this
> year. A short summary of the results was that only the machines
> running Norton/Symantec AV were clean, 2 machines running
> NAV/Symantec without any updates had a couple trojans, all machines
> running McAfee, CA, and AVG had at least 1 or more Trojans/viruses.
>
> It was interesting to see that there were many less viruses infections
> this year (around 100 total infection files), last year there were
> over 8000 viruses/trojans on their machines.
>
> My impression of Symantec has been that their non-AV software is total
> Crap, if you combine their non-AV software with their AV software you
> still have total crap. If you only run their AV software (not NIS or
> any suite from them) then you get a stable (mostly for most people) AV
> product that is better than any other (except for KAP).
>
> While you do see many posts about Symantec AV and Norton AV, as normal
> with Usenet, you only really see the people complaining about real
> problems - you almost never see posts stating that a product has
> worked great and if you do, it's only from a tiny fraction of people
> that are using it.
>
> My experience in the corporate and residential markets has been that
> Symantec's AV products are almost perfectly rocksolid, my experience,
> with the exception of running Symantec AV on SBS2003 with SBS2003 SP1,
> has been that it's fast, easy, and not any problem at all. While you
> can discount this experience, it doesn't change the FACT that I'm not
> experiencing any problems with Symantec or Norton AV products on
> corporate or residential systems. As for the other vendors, I've got
> less installs of AVG, McAfee, CA, etc... and I have more problems with
> those (and lack of protection) combined than with all of my Symantec
> AV / Norton AV products installed.

LOL! That's why there are SO MANY POSTS in this MICROSOFT newsgroup
complaining about various problems with Symantec!

If you extrapulate that the numbers, Symancrap has more people with
problems the MS, since Symancrap threads are off-topic for this group.

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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> In article <#Iti8Nm2FHA.3744@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, ntotrr@optonline.net
> says...
>> > My experience in the corporate and residential markets has been that
>> > Symantec's AV products are almost perfectly rocksolid, my experience,
>> > with the exception of running Symantec AV on SBS2003 with SBS2003 SP1,
>> > has been that it's fast, easy, and not any problem at all. While you
>> > can
>> > discount this experience, it doesn't change the FACT that I'm not
>> > experiencing any problems with Symantec or Norton AV products on
>> > corporate or residential systems. As for the other vendors, I've got
>> > less installs of AVG, McAfee, CA, etc... and I have more problems with
>> > those (and lack of protection) combined than with all of my Symantec AV
>> > / Norton AV products installed.
>>
>> We use Symantec AV in my office. The switch was made from McAfee three
>> years ago and the NETOPS people are very pleased withthe performance. I
>> have used Norton AV on my personal systems at home and was not very
>> pleased
>> with them, not for their AV protection but for the perofrmnace drain on
>> the
>> systems. McAfee was much less of a drain and performs well. Onmy
>> desktop,
>> my license for McAfee expired and I decided to use Avast Pro and so far
>> I'm
>> happy with the decision. I won't use Norton AV or any other Symantec
>> product on my own systems.
>
> Thanks for the polite feedback - I've seen the types of issues you speak
> of, and again, I would never suggest that you didn't experience them, in
> fact I have never said that people don't have problems with product X,
> Y, Z.
>
> How long have you been using Avast Pro?
> What benefits to using Avast Pro over McAfee or Symantec are you seeing?
>
> Thanks

I've been using Avast for about one month now. I see no difference in the
protection aspect in Avast that I didn't see in McAfee and Norton. The app
does not seem intrusive at all. I get occcassional emails with viruses
attached due to my posting on usenet using my real email address. Avast has
caught three of them in the last week, two masquerading as MS emails.
McAfee was doing the same until the subscription ran out. I haven't tried
Norton in about three years now. McAfee 8 was much better at *not* using
system resources like Norton did and Norton's Live Update just didn't work
at times. McAfee also had a smaller footprint as does Avast.

I'm a tinkerer and I'm willing to try new software apps. I'm a good loyal
customer to most brands once I'm happy with them as I was with McAfee, but I
was willing to try Avast. I've got three other McAfee licenses running on
other home systems and they continue to work well. It looks like I'll be
keeping Avast, it's working well. Their free version works just as good and
they even offer tech support for the free version.

Anyone any knowledge of Shield pro, 6Star reviews seems to rate it
highly but yet it's hardly mentioned in NG's.

Thought I'd ask here since this NG's alive and buzzing, seem to have
no joy anywhere else, thanks.

Davy