My C: drive properties shows 7,441,547 Kb of used space. I have added up
all the main folders in the C: drive and they total 4,296,951 Kb. There's
a difference of 3,144,596 Kb of used space seemingly "unaccounted for". I
realize that there must be some system overhead usage but certainly it
can't be that much!!. Can someone enlighten me on this???? Thanks and best
regards,

Art

System Restore and other hidden files perhaps?

"Art" <artlab@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:T95af.31780$_31.6408@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .
> My C: drive properties shows 7,441,547 Kb of used space. I have added up
> all the main folders in the C: drive and they total 4,296,951 Kb.
> There's
> a difference of 3,144,596 Kb of used space seemingly "unaccounted for".
> I
> realize that there must be some system overhead usage but certainly it
> can't be that much!!. Can someone enlighten me on this???? Thanks and
> best
> regards,
>
> Art
>
>

Look at the size of C:\System Volume Information (System Restore uses this
folder). This folder can grow. It defaults to 12% of total disk space.

Is some of the drive not partitioned?
Is there a hidden partition on the disk for XP backup files? Was XP
preinstalled?

How to Locate and Correct Disk Space Problems on NTFS Volumes in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315688

Windows XP Does Not Recognize All Available Disk Space
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;316505

Temporary Internet Files Use More Disk Space Than Specified
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;301057

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In news:T95af.31780$_31.6408@bignews5.bellsouth.net,
Art <artlab@bellsouth.net> hunted and pecked:
> My C: drive properties shows 7,441,547 Kb of used space. I have added up
> all the main folders in the C: drive and they total 4,296,951 Kb.
> There's a difference of 3,144,596 Kb of used space seemingly
> "unaccounted for". I realize that there must be some system overhead
> usage but certainly it can't be that much!!. Can someone enlighten me
> on this???? Thanks and best regards,
>
> Art

System restore perhaps, Norton Protected recycle bin perhaps. Unless you
set show system and hidden files you will miss a lot.

Art wrote:

> My C: drive properties shows 7,441,547 Kb of used space. I have added up
> all the main folders in the C: drive and they total 4,296,951 Kb. There's
> a difference of 3,144,596 Kb of used space seemingly "unaccounted for". I
> realize that there must be some system overhead usage but certainly it
> can't be that much!!. Can someone enlighten me on this???? Thanks and best
> regards,
>
> Art
>
>

Wesley Vogel wrote:
> Look at the size of C:\System Volume Information (System Restore uses this
> folder). This folder can grow. It defaults to 12% of total disk space.

I don't see System Volume Informtion in C:\, using Windows Explorer. I
have it set to view hidden files.

Alias

I can see it on mine - do you have System Restore switched on?

"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
news:O46xHr83FHA.632@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Wesley Vogel wrote:
>> Look at the size of C:\System Volume Information (System Restore uses
>> this
>> folder). This folder can grow. It defaults to 12% of total disk space.
>
> I don't see System Volume Informtion in C:\, using Windows Explorer. I
> have it set to view hidden files.
>
> Alias

How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;309531

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"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
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> Wesley Vogel wrote:
>> Look at the size of C:\System Volume Information (System Restore uses
>> this
>> folder). This folder can grow. It defaults to 12% of total disk
>> space.
>
> I don't see System Volume Informtion in C:\, using Windows Explorer. I
> have it set to view hidden files.
>
> Alias

Doesn't matter if System Restore is on or off.

To display Hidden files and folders...

Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
Check:
� Display the contents of system folders
� Show hidden files and folders
UNCheck:
� Hide protected operating system files
Click Apply | Click OK

[[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are not
typical items.]]

Start | Run | Paste: C:\System Volume Information | Click OK

or %homedrive%\System Volume Information

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In news:OJrPX383FHA.2872@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
Mac <mac@nospam.com> hunted and pecked:
> I can see it on mine - do you have System Restore switched on?
>
> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
> news:O46xHr83FHA.632@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Wesley Vogel wrote:
>>> Look at the size of C:\System Volume Information (System Restore uses
>>> this
>>> folder). This folder can grow. It defaults to 12% of total disk space.
>>
>> I don't see System Volume Informtion in C:\, using Windows Explorer. I
>> have it set to view hidden files.
>>
>> Alias

Art

To investigate how you are using hard disk space you need to make sure
that you can see all files. Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder Options,
View, Advanced Settings and verify that the box before "Show hidden
files and folders" is checked and "Hide protected operating system files
" is unchecked. You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You
should also make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known
file types" is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View,
Details is selected and then select View, Choose Details and check
before Name, Type, Total Size, and Free Space.

How large is your C drives and how much free space is there?
Right click on the drive in Windows Explorer to get this information.

You may be able to gain space on your drive. Check how much Disk Space
is allocated to System Restore by right clicking on My Computer and
selecting Properties, System Restore, Settings. Also run Disk CleanUp
selecting More Options, System Restore and remove all restore points
except the most recent one.

Do you use Norton Utilities and Norton Protected Storage
Norton Protected Storage?
http://snipurl.com/j8g4

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"Art" <artlab@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:T95af.31780$_31.6408@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .
> My C: drive properties shows 7,441,547 Kb of used space. I have added
> up
> all the main folders in the C: drive and they total 4,296,951 Kb.
> There's
> a difference of 3,144,596 Kb of used space seemingly "unaccounted
> for". I
> realize that there must be some system overhead usage but certainly
> it
> can't be that much!!. Can someone enlighten me on this???? Thanks
> and best
> regards,
>
> Art
>
>

Mac wrote:
> I can see it on mine - do you have System Restore switched on?

Yes, I do. I have Windows, Program Files, Documents and Settings and
nothing more.

Alias
>
> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
> news:O46xHr83FHA.632@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
>>Wesley Vogel wrote:
>>
>>>Look at the size of C:\System Volume Information (System Restore uses
>>>this
>>>folder). This folder can grow. It defaults to 12% of total disk space.
>>
>>I don't see System Volume Informtion in C:\, using Windows Explorer. I
>>have it set to view hidden files.
>>
>>Alias
>
>
>

Wesley Vogel wrote:

> Doesn't matter if System Restore is on or off.
>
> To display Hidden files and folders...
>
> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
> Check:
> � Display the contents of system folders
> � Show hidden files and folders
> UNCheck:
> � Hide protected operating system files
> Click Apply | Click OK

Now I see it and it says the folder is empty.

Hmmmmm

Alias
>
> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are not
> typical items.]]
>
> Start | Run | Paste: C:\System Volume Information | Click OK
>
> or %homedrive%\System Volume Information
>

Also download and try TreeSize

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...:en&q=TreeSize

"Art" <artlab@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:T95af.31780$_31.6408@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .
> My C: drive properties shows 7,441,547 Kb of used space. I have added up
> all the main folders in the C: drive and they total 4,296,951 Kb.
> There's
> a difference of 3,144,596 Kb of used space seemingly "unaccounted for".
> I
> realize that there must be some system overhead usage but certainly it
> can't be that much!!. Can someone enlighten me on this???? Thanks and
> best
> regards,
>
> Art
>
>

I do not use System Restore and have it turned off.

My C:\System Volume Information folder is 0 bytes. 2 Files, 0 Folders
MountPointManagerRemoteDatabase 0KB
tracking.log 0KB

I use ERUNT instead.

NTREGOPT NT Registry Optimizer
ERUNT The Emergency Recovery Utility NT
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

Installing & Using ERUNT
http://www.silentrunners.org/sr_eruntuse.html

To see an illustrated registry restore procedure
http://www.silentrunners.org/sr_erdntuse.html


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In news:%2339N0M93FHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
Alias <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> hunted and pecked:
> Wesley Vogel wrote:
>
>> Doesn't matter if System Restore is on or off.
>>
>> To display Hidden files and folders...
>>
>> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
>> Check:
>> � Display the contents of system folders
>> � Show hidden files and folders
>> UNCheck:
>> � Hide protected operating system files
>> Click Apply | Click OK
>
> Now I see it and it says the folder is empty.
>
> Hmmmmm
>
> Alias
>>
>> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are not
>> typical items.]]
>>
>> Start | Run | Paste: C:\System Volume Information | Click OK
>>
>> or %homedrive%\System Volume Information

Also have SR off, prefer other protection methods. But have the folder,
which only contains only the MountPointManager... file.

"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:OvtkPk93FHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I do not use System Restore and have it turned off.
>
> My C:\System Volume Information folder is 0 bytes. 2 Files, 0 Folders
> MountPointManagerRemoteDatabase 0KB
> tracking.log 0KB
>
> I use ERUNT instead.
>
> NTREGOPT NT Registry Optimizer
> ERUNT The Emergency Recovery Utility NT
> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
>
> Installing & Using ERUNT
> http://www.silentrunners.org/sr_eruntuse.html
>
> To see an illustrated registry restore procedure
> http://www.silentrunners.org/sr_erdntuse.html
>
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:%2339N0M93FHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
> Alias <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> hunted and pecked:
>> Wesley Vogel wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't matter if System Restore is on or off.
>>>
>>> To display Hidden files and folders...
>>>
>>> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
>>> Check:
>>> � Display the contents of system folders
>>> � Show hidden files and folders
>>> UNCheck:
>>> � Hide protected operating system files
>>> Click Apply | Click OK
>>
>> Now I see it and it says the folder is empty.
>>
>> Hmmmmm
>>
>> Alias
>>>
>>> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are not
>>> typical items.]]
>>>
>>> Start | Run | Paste: C:\System Volume Information | Click OK
>>>
>>> or %homedrive%\System Volume Information
>

"Art" <artlab@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:T95af.31780$_31.6408@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .
> My C: drive properties shows 7,441,547 Kb of used space. I have added up
> all the main folders in the C: drive and they total 4,296,951 Kb.
> There's
> a difference of 3,144,596 Kb of used space seemingly "unaccounted for".
> I
> realize that there must be some system overhead usage but certainly it
> can't be that much!!. Can someone enlighten me on this???? Thanks and
> best
> regards,
>
> Art
>
>
You should see a "swap file" equal to 1 to 1 and a half times your system
RAM. Your System Restore files are set to a percentage of your HDD, and can
get quite huge. Temporary Internet Files and files in your Temp folder(s)
build up unless you clean them regularly. Windows updates also install
folders that take up space and cam be safely removed if the update causes no
negative impact.

Bobby

Thanks to all for the valuable information and advise. I have a better
grasp of things now. Best regards,

Art

"Art" <artlab@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:T95af.31780$_31.6408@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .
> My C: drive properties shows 7,441,547 Kb of used space. I have added up
> all the main folders in the C: drive and they total 4,296,951 Kb.
> There's
> a difference of 3,144,596 Kb of used space seemingly "unaccounted for".
> I
> realize that there must be some system overhead usage but certainly it
> can't be that much!!. Can someone enlighten me on this???? Thanks and
> best
> regards,
>
> Art
>
>

Art wrote:
>
> My C: drive properties shows 7,441,547 Kb of used space. I have added up
> all the main folders in the C: drive and they total 4,296,951 Kb. There's
> a difference of 3,144,596 Kb of used space seemingly "unaccounted for". I
> realize that there must be some system overhead usage but certainly it
> can't be that much!!. Can someone enlighten me on this???? Thanks and best
> regards,

You're not accounting for hidden files, and perhaps the page file.



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