- Can files copied from NTFS to FAT32 under Linux be copied back to XP?
- Posted by pat_mc on March 2nd, 2008
Hi -
From my wife's XP laptop (whose XP does not start up anymore) I have
copied all files to an external FAT32 HDD using the CD-bootable Linux
version Knoppix 5.2 and the normal 'Copy to' command available via the
KDE GUI.
My plan is to copy the non-system files back to the internal HDD again
once I have re-installed XP using the Linux CD.
Can this be done safely or will I run into problems due to the NTFS and
FAT32 format differences? Please note that the files copied are NOT part
of a partition or drive image but just normal file copies (I believe
this will make a difference since I have learnt from a previous post
that full images can be copied back without a problem).
Thanks in advance -
Pat
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- Posted by Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] on March 2nd, 2008
pat_mc <p_surname@hotmail.com> wrote:
The file system format has no bearing on this. So, yes, you can copy.
- Posted by David H. Lipman on March 2nd, 2008
From: "pat_mc" <p_surname@hotmail.com>
| Hi -
|
| From my wife's XP laptop (whose XP does not start up anymore) I have
| copied all files to an external FAT32 HDD using the CD-bootable Linux
| version Knoppix 5.2 and the normal 'Copy to' command available via the
| KDE GUI.
|
| My plan is to copy the non-system files back to the internal HDD again
| once I have re-installed XP using the Linux CD.
|
| Can this be done safely or will I run into problems due to the NTFS and
| FAT32 format differences? Please note that the files copied are NOT part
| of a partition or drive image but just normal file copies (I believe
| this will make a difference since I have learnt from a previous post
| that full images can be copied back without a problem).
|
| Thanks in advance -
|
| Pat
|
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| pat_mc
Yes. It can be done.
However, I suggest scanning the files with an anti virus software prior to copying them.
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- Posted by Colin Barnhorst on March 2nd, 2008
The XP file manager will handle the copy from FAT32 to NTFS just fine. Just
copy.
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- Posted by pat_mc on March 2nd, 2008
Thanks, Lanwench -
Sounds good ... and I trust you on this one.
Somehow, though, I seem to be missing the issue with the different HDD
formats then. If copying files to and fro is not a problem, what's the
fuss about the format differences then. Or let me rephrase: in what
cases would the format differences have a bearing on file transfers
between the external and the internal HDDs?
Thanks again -
Pat
'Lanwench [MVP - Exchange Wrote:
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- Posted by Pegasus \(MVP\) on March 2nd, 2008
NTFS has fully developed security features. FAT32 has none.
When you copy folders from NTFS to FAT32 partitions
then you lose all security information, and you won't get
it back when you copy the files back to an NTFS partition.
As you may remember from your previous post, NTFS
can store many more and far larger files than FAT32.
In other words, if NTFS is the sports car then FAT32 is the
bicycle.
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- Posted by Holz on March 3rd, 2008
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:14:57 +0100
"Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:
Tricycle..
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- Posted by dynamo52 on March 3rd, 2008
On Mar 2, 4:05 pm, Holz <h...@my-laptop.nowhere> wrote:
No, that would be FAT16
- Posted by HeyBub on March 3rd, 2008
pat_mc wrote:
One machine has no knowledge of the file formats found on another machine.
Moreover, it doesn't care. The disk formats don't move, only the data.
Same as with the internet. Data move over the wires, not the page layout or
operating system.
When you open a letter, you have no real way of telling whether the letter
was typed on a manual or electric typewriter, or a dot-matrix, laser, or
ink-jet printer. Nor is the answer to that question of any importance at
all.
- Posted by David H. Lipman on March 3rd, 2008
From: "dynamo52" <dynamo52@gmail.com>
|
| No, that would be FAT16
And walking is FAT12 ? :-)
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- Posted by David H. Lipman on March 3rd, 2008
From: "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com>
|
| When you open a letter, you have no real way of telling whether the letter
| was typed on a manual or electric typewriter, or a dot-matrix, laser, or
| ink-jet printer. Nor is the answer to that question of any importance at
| all.
|
Actually you can tell the difference. Each leave distinguishing traces. For example the
type of impact on the paper leaving a dimple, the paper absorbing the ink, the layer of
carbon in laser printing to, the dispersion around the character and the constancy of the
characters printed.
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- Posted by pat_mc on March 3rd, 2008
Thanks for your helpful post, Pegasus.
Can you please let me know what kind of security features are being
lost in the transfer from NTFS to FAT32? Are we talking about access
rights or a comletely different level of security?
Cheers -
Pat
Pegasus \(MVP\);932660 Wrote:
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- Posted by Pegasus \(MVP\) on March 3rd, 2008
We're talking about access rights. None of the various FAT-flavours
has facilities for user-based access restrictions.
However, you need to be aware that NTFS access rights are
only effective while Windows is up and running. If someone
gets hold of your laptop or of your hard disk then that person
can access your files with the right tools, regardless of any
NTFS restrictions.
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- Posted by pat_mc on March 3rd, 2008
I see.
Will this be of importance to me if in my Windows environment I have
not set any access restrictions myself? In particular, does Windows
impose access limitations on files and directories? I have my laptop
password-protected (for all it's worth, I know) ... so does this
restrict access on certain system files?
I am just wondering if the whole security discussion applies to what I
am doing at all ...
Thanks again, Pegasus!
Cheers -
Pat
Pegasus \(MVP\);933118 Wrote:
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- Posted by Pegasus \(MVP\) on March 3rd, 2008
It depends. If you log on as "Administrator" then you have
full access rights to almost all folders, regardless of any
restrictions, same as you would if your partitions used FAT32.
If you log on as an ordinary user then you may not be
able to access certain folders. It all depends how your
permissions are set.
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- Posted by Colin Barnhorst on March 3rd, 2008
That would be more like "flopping."
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- Posted by David H. Lipman on March 3rd, 2008
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net>
| That would be more like "flopping."
|
:-)
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- Posted by Ken Blake, MVP on March 3rd, 2008
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:00:03 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"
<c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
LOL!
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