Hi, Maybe this is how it should work but it sure is different from how
it USED to work, and it's confusing!

I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a post, or
Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.

When finished I cannot go back and read posts until I SIGN OUT!

There's something illogical about the way this is set up.Seems to me
that I should SIGN IN, perform any function, and then SIGN OUT?

Thankx....I couldn't get much help from anywhere else. Mike

Make life easy, use a newsreader instead of the god-awful web interfaces:
http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

<francisco9@att.net> wrote in message
news:1128862446.890175.244590@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi, Maybe this is how it should work but it sure is different from how
> it USED to work, and it's confusing!
>
> I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a post, or
> Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.
>
> When finished I cannot go back and read posts until I SIGN OUT!
>
> There's something illogical about the way this is set up.Seems to me
> that I should SIGN IN, perform any function, and then SIGN OUT?
>
> Thankx....I couldn't get much help from anywhere else. Mike
>

francisco9@att.net wrote:

> I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a post, or
> Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.

Why don't you use a newsreader rather than a web interface.

--
d-d

On 9 Oct 2005 05:54:07 -0700, francisco9@att.net wrote:

>Hi, Maybe this is how it should work but it sure is different from how
>it USED to work, and it's confusing!
>
>I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a post, or
>Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.
>
>When finished I cannot go back and read posts until I SIGN OUT!
>
>There's something illogical about the way this is set up.Seems to me
>that I should SIGN IN, perform any function, and then SIGN OUT?
>
>Thankx....I couldn't get much help from anywhere else. Mike

http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php

In news:1128862446.890175.244590@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com,
francisco9@att.net <francisco9@att.net> typed:

> Hi, Maybe this is how it should work but it sure is different
> from how
> it USED to work, and it's confusing!
>
> I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a
> post, or
> Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.
>
> When finished I cannot go back and read posts until I SIGN
> OUT!
>
> There's something illogical about the way this is set up.Seems
> to me
> that I should SIGN IN, perform any function, and then SIGN
> OUT?
>
> Thankx....I couldn't get much help from anywhere else. Mike


GoogleGroups is a good way to search the newsgroups. It's a poor
way to actively participate and post to them. Do yourself a favor
and switch to a newsreader, such as Outlook Express, which comes
with Windows.

See http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm


--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Detlev Dreyer wrote:
> francisco9@att.net wrote:
>
> > I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a post, or
> > Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.
>
> Why don't you use a newsreader rather than a web interface.
>
> --
> d-d

Thanks, d-d, Are there any free newsreaders? I'm retired and on a
minimum fixed income. and everything is going up in price these days!

Thanks, for the response to my post!

Mike

<francisco9@att.net> wrote in message
news:1128872622.954312.76260@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Detlev Dreyer wrote:
>> francisco9@att.net wrote:
>>
>> > I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a post, or
>> > Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.
>>
>> Why don't you use a newsreader rather than a web interface.
>>
>> --
>> d-d
>
> Thanks, d-d, Are there any free newsreaders? I'm retired and on a
> minimum fixed income. and everything is going up in price these days!
>
> Thanks, for the response to my post!
>
> Mike
>
I use Outlook Express which comes with Windows XP. You already own this
program.
Jim

<francisco9@att.net> wrote in message
news:1128862446.890175.244590@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi, Maybe this is how it should work but it sure is different from how
> it USED to work, and it's confusing!
>
> I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a post, or
> Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.
>
> When finished I cannot go back and read posts until I SIGN OUT!
>
> There's something illogical about the way this is set up.Seems to me
> that I should SIGN IN, perform any function, and then SIGN OUT?
>
> Thankx....I couldn't get much help from anywhere else. Mike
>


When you return to the prior page, you are probably still seeing the cached
copy. Hit the Refresh button to reload the page. Also, NNTP is not an
instantaneous prattle protocol. It takes time for a post to show up even if
you are looking for the new post on the same server when you submitted it.
In fact, it used to take up to 4 hours for new posts to appear but, I think,
this got reduced to 2 hours.

Of course, maybe you are not asking about the Usenet groups that are copied
in Google Groups but instead are asking about the "private" groups that only
the Google server carries.

In article <MPG.1db30b9379d5ed9498a225@news-server.columbus.rr.com>,
void@nowhere.lan, Leythos says...

> In article <ceb2f.63$BZ5.4@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, j.n@nospam.com
> says...
> >
> > <francisco9@att.net> wrote in message
> > news:1128872622.954312.76260@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
> > >
> > > Detlev Dreyer wrote:
> > >> francisco9@att.net wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a post, or
> > >> > Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.
> > >>
> > >> Why don't you use a newsreader rather than a web interface.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> d-d
> > >
> > > Thanks, d-d, Are there any free newsreaders? I'm retired and on a
> > > minimum fixed income. and everything is going up in price these days!
> > >
> > > Thanks, for the response to my post!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > I use Outlook Express which comes with Windows XP. You already own this
> > program.
>
> Outlook express is the Worst Usenet client on the Windows platform.
>
> Try something like Super Gravity - while it's not fancy or full of
> pretty colors and such, it is a REAL (meaning it was designed as a
> Usenet client, not an after-thought) Usenet client and works with all
> Usenet servers.
>
> It's also not going to make the mistake of improperly quoting or top
> posting like outhouse does.
>
>

Nice to see someone actually using Gravity...... ;0)
--
*************************************************
The Tobes of Hades, lit by flickering torchlight
The netherworld is gathered in the glare
Prince By-Tor takes the cavern to the north light
The sign of Eth is rising in the air.
By-Tor, knight of darkness,
Centurion of evil, devil's prince.

francisco9@att.net wrote:

> Hi, Maybe this is how it should work but it sure is different from how
> it USED to work, and it's confusing!
>
> I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a post, or
> Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.
>
> When finished I cannot go back and read posts until I SIGN OUT!
>
> There's something illogical about the way this is set up.Seems to me
> that I should SIGN IN, perform any function, and then SIGN OUT?
>
> Thankx....I couldn't get much help from anywhere else. Mike
>

To add to the litany of responses that say use a newsreader, XP comes
with one, Outlook Express. Here's a tutorial on how to set it up for
newsgroups: http://michaelstevenstech.com/outloo...snewreader.htm

--
Rock
MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

Outlook Express is not perfect but it
works fine for me (and has been doing
so for years), especially when compared
to web interface offerings. It's like
driving a Oldsmobile. It may not be the
coolest thing around but it gets you there.

Best of all, Outlook Express is free...
well, it's built into XP.


"Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ceb2f.63$BZ5.4@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>
> <francisco9@att.net> wrote in message
> news:1128872622.954312.76260@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> Detlev Dreyer wrote:
>>> francisco9@att.net wrote:
>>>
>>> > I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a
>>> > post, or
>>> > Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.
>>>
>>> Why don't you use a newsreader rather than a web interface.
>>>
>>> --
>>> d-d
>>
>> Thanks, d-d, Are there any free newsreaders? I'm retired and on a
>> minimum fixed income. and everything is going up in price these
>> days!
>>
>> Thanks, for the response to my post!
>>
>> Mike
>>
> I use Outlook Express which comes with Windows XP. You already own
> this program.
> Jim
>

francisco9@att.net wrote:

>> Why don't you use a newsreader rather than a web interface.
>
> Thanks, d-d, Are there any free newsreaders? I'm retired and on a
> minimum fixed income. and everything is going up in price these days!

Sure. You may want to use "Outlook Express" (coming with Windows anyway)
however, I personally prefer third-party newsreaders like "Forté Agent"
or the newsreader being installed with the "Netscape" Communicator. All
of them are free of charge and there are many more of them.

--
d-d

In article <MPG.1db30e98cba2e20b98a226@news-server.columbus.rr.com>,
void@nowhere.lan, Leythos says...
> In article <bqb2f.759$GZ3.61@fe32.usenetserver.com>, ByTor@snowdog.com
> says...
> > > Outlook express is the Worst Usenet client on the Windows platform.
> > >
> > > Try something like Super Gravity - while it's not fancy or full of
> > > pretty colors and such, it is a REAL (meaning it was designed as a
> > > Usenet client, not an after-thought) Usenet client and works with all
> > > Usenet servers.
> > >
> > > It's also not going to make the mistake of improperly quoting or top
> > > posting like outhouse does.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Nice to see someone actually using Gravity...... ;0)
>
> I bought it a LONG time ago, and have used it as my primary Windows
> platform Usenet client since. I use PAN on my Linux systems, but I find
> that Gravity is all that I will need - unless I want to download Binary
> images and need support of newer formats (but I don't do the Binary
> route)...
>
> Super Gravity is free, and it's been 110% stable on all my Windows
> systems for years.
>
>
>

Same here........Super Gravity. :0)

It came on some silly disk I had yeeeeears ago when I had my first
computer (now I have 7) and it's the simplist......I only use it for
text messaging though......I do the binary route BIG time but I use
GrabIt, or PowerGrab for that......S.Gravity does support Yenc though
BTW.....

I love the fact that a good registry backup & an updated "newsdb" folder
backup works wonders when ya have to do a clean install.....Pain in the
ass to redo all the settings........
--
*************************************************
The Tobes of Hades, lit by flickering torchlight
The netherworld is gathered in the glare
Prince By-Tor takes the cavern to the north light
The sign of Eth is rising in the air.
By-Tor, knight of darkness,
Centurion of evil, devil's prince.

francisco9@att.net wrote:
> Hi, Maybe this is how it should work but it sure is different from how
> it USED to work, and it's confusing!
>
> I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a post, or
> Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.
>
> When finished I cannot go back and read posts until I SIGN OUT!
>
> There's something illogical about the way this is set up.Seems to me
> that I should SIGN IN, perform any function, and then SIGN OUT?
>
> Thankx....I couldn't get much help from anywhere else. Mike
>
Surprised to see no one has mentioned Firefox, which has newsreader
capabilities. XNews is great for binaries, but it takes some effort to
figure the program out initially.

Bill

Hi Francis,

I use Outlook Express because it came with the operating system. I know
other readers have their favorite newsreader programs.

I do like to use Google Groups every once in awhile. Join the group.
You are not required to give too much information to join. Once you
have joined Google Groups becomes easier to use.

I do like to use Google Groups to look up posts in the past and to see
if a question I have has already been addressed and answered.

That is just the way I use and read newsgroups. Outlook Express because
it came with the operating system for everyday reading of newsgroups.
And, Google Groups, when I want to look up information that has already
been dealt with. I am using Google Groups to answer your post.

Leigh

On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 09:27:45 -0400 in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, Rick "Nutcase" Rogers favored us
with...
> Make life easy, use a newsreader instead of the god-awful web interfaces:
> http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm

Rick, you might want to add OE Quotefix to that page. OE out-of-the-
box seems to screw up quotes from previous articles, by reformatting
the lines and not putting the right number of ">" at the start of the
continuation lines.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"You find yourself amusing, Blackadder."
"I try not to fly in the face of public opinion."

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:55:53 -0400 in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, Larry favored us with...
> On 9 Oct 2005 05:54:07 -0700, francisco9@att.net wrote:
>
> >Hi, Maybe this is how it should work but it sure is different from how
> >it USED to work, and it's confusing!
> >
> >I can bring up and read any post. But if I try to REPLY to a post, or
> >Start a New Topic, I have to SIGN IN.
> >
> >When finished I cannot go back and read posts until I SIGN OUT!
> >
> >There's something illogical about the way this is set up.Seems to me
> >that I should SIGN IN, perform any function, and then SIGN OUT?
> >
> >Thankx....I couldn't get much help from anywhere else. Mike
>
> http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php

I tried Forte Agent this year. Both 2.0 and 3.0 lack a usable kill
file, and the marking of watched threads isn't reliable either. I
don't download binaries, but people reported lots of troubles with
that feature in 3.0. Oh yes, crosspost management didn't work for me.

I came back to free Gravity.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"You find yourself amusing, Blackadder."
"I try not to fly in the face of public opinion."

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:20:40 GMT in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, Leythos favored us with...
> In article <HTc2f.2$pE3.0@fe66.usenetserver.com>, ByTor@snowdog.com
> says...
> > S.Gravity does support Yenc though
> > BTW.....
>
> I don't see support for it - got a pointer?

That was added in 2.6 <http://gravity.tbates.org/supergrav.html>, and
I used it. I haven't used t in 2.7, but it's there
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...429f188dde0550
f?hl=en&>.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"You find yourself amusing, Blackadder."
"I try not to fly in the face of public opinion."

In article <MPG.1db46febbab5e3698997c@news.individual.net>,
the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm, Stan Brown says...

> On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:20:40 GMT in
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, Leythos favored us with...
> > In article <HTc2f.2$pE3.0@fe66.usenetserver.com>, ByTor@snowdog.com
> > says...
> > > S.Gravity does support Yenc though
> > > BTW.....
> >
> > I don't see support for it - got a pointer?
>
> That was added in 2.6 <http://gravity.tbates.org/supergrav.html>, and
> I used it. I haven't used t in 2.7, but it's there
> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...429f188dde0550
> f?hl=en&>.
>
>

Never knew there was a 2.7

Interesting.........thx for the link........ ;0)
--
*************************************************
The Tobes of Hades, lit by flickering torchlight
The netherworld is gathered in the glare
Prince By-Tor takes the cavern to the north light
The sign of Eth is rising in the air.
By-Tor, knight of darkness,
Centurion of evil, devil's prince.