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Change computer date with "smart" chip in HP printers?
Posted by John on December 23rd, 2005


I rarely use the colors on my HP 2200 inkjet printer and I've had to replace
several completely full cartridges since the printer will shutdown in the
middle of printing.

Up until recently, I could set the date back on the computer and continue
printing but now the yellow must be changed regardless of whatever date the
computer has been set to.

I'm wondering if changing the date of the computer before installing new
cartridges will extend the cartridge lifetime? What would happen if I set
the date a year or two ahead when I install a bunch of new print cartridges?

Posted by Bob I on December 23rd, 2005


Try reading here
http://www.hojohnlee.com/weblog/arch...xpiration-drm/

John wrote:
> I rarely use the colors on my HP 2200 inkjet printer and I've had to
> replace several completely full cartridges since the printer will
> shutdown in the middle of printing.
>
> Up until recently, I could set the date back on the computer and
> continue printing but now the yellow must be changed regardless of
> whatever date the computer has been set to.
>
> I'm wondering if changing the date of the computer before installing new
> cartridges will extend the cartridge lifetime? What would happen if I
> set the date a year or two ahead when I install a bunch of new print
> cartridges?


Posted by John on December 23rd, 2005


Bob I wrote:

> Try reading here
> http://www.hojohnlee.com/weblog/arch...xpiration-drm/


I have already checked out:

http://www.alotofthings.com/supportf...datehp1011.htm

which mentions changing the HP*.INI date. I opened the only HP*.INI file with
a hex editor on my XP PRO computer but couldn't find anything remotely like
the string he was was referring to.

My logic in advancing the date a year or two into the future when installing
the cartridges (and then setting the computer time back to normal) is that I
would have that much more time before the cartridges expired. BUT, if
there's an expiration date from the time the cartridges are manufactured,
then the cartridges would become instantly null and void the moment I plugged
the cartridges in.

Too bad that I paid so much for the HP printer or I would have just chucked
it. When it came time to buy a printer for my wife, you can be certain it
wasn't an HP.



>
>
> John wrote:
>
>> I rarely use the colors on my HP 2200 inkjet printer and I've had to
>> replace several completely full cartridges since the printer will
>> shutdown in the middle of printing.
>>
>> Up until recently, I could set the date back on the computer and
>> continue printing but now the yellow must be changed regardless of
>> whatever date the computer has been set to.
>>
>> I'm wondering if changing the date of the computer before installing
>> new cartridges will extend the cartridge lifetime? What would happen
>> if I set the date a year or two ahead when I install a bunch of new
>> print cartridges?

>
>

Posted by Will-Lee-Cue on December 23rd, 2005


What models have this time limit?
Is the HP Deskjet 1220C exempt from this?

Willee


"John" <John@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:CFXqf.7204$Ml4.479@southeast.rr.com...
>I rarely use the colors on my HP 2200 inkjet printer and I've had to
>replace several completely full cartridges since the printer will shutdown
>in the middle of printing.
>
> Up until recently, I could set the date back on the computer and continue
> printing but now the yellow must be changed regardless of whatever date
> the computer has been set to.
>
> I'm wondering if changing the date of the computer before installing new
> cartridges will extend the cartridge lifetime? What would happen if I set
> the date a year or two ahead when I install a bunch of new print
> cartridges?



Posted by Michael Swift on December 23rd, 2005


In article <43AC577E.6080109@nospam.com>, John <John@nospam.com> writes
>Too bad that I paid so much for the HP printer or I would have just
>chucked it. When it came time to buy a printer for my wife, you can be
>certain it wasn't an HP.


I've an almost new Epson C82 in the garage which wouldn't recognise
compatible cartridges, it's about time the government got stuck into
printer makers, thieving bar stewards.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

Posted by Bob Headrick on December 23rd, 2005



"Will-Lee-Cue" <n5wrx@stx.rr.com> wrote in message
news:zRYqf.11208$g_6.9630@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> What models have this time limit?
> Is the HP DeskJet 1220C exempt from this?


The models that enforce out of ink or cartridge expiration are those that have
separate printheads and ink supplies. If the ink runs out or become old and
thickened damage to the printhead may occur, thus the expiration. This
includes the Business Inkjet Series, the D series all-in-ones and a few other
models. No DeskJet printer has a cartridge expiration, so the DeskJet 1220 is
not affected.

The original poster would probably be better off with a different printer. The
ink generally expires after 30 months in the printer. If you do not use a
color cartridge in 2 1/2 years you would probably be better off with a DeskJet
such as the 6540 which will work without a color cartridge installed if
necessary.

Regards,
Bob Headrick



Posted by measekite on December 23rd, 2005


Why do you no longer disclose that you are employed by HP?

Bob Headrick wrote:

>"Will-Lee-Cue" <n5wrx@stx.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:zRYqf.11208$g_6.9630@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>
>
>>What models have this time limit?
>>Is the HP DeskJet 1220C exempt from this?
>>
>>

>
>The models that enforce out of ink or cartridge expiration are those that have
>separate printheads and ink supplies. If the ink runs out or become old and
>thickened damage to the printhead may occur, thus the expiration. This
>includes the Business Inkjet Series, the D series all-in-ones and a few other
>models. No DeskJet printer has a cartridge expiration, so the DeskJet 1220 is
>not affected.
>
>The original poster would probably be better off with a different printer. The
>ink generally expires after 30 months in the printer. If you do not use a
>color cartridge in 2 1/2 years you would probably be better off with a DeskJet
>such as the 6540 which will work without a color cartridge installed if
>necessary.
>
>Regards,
>Bob Headrick
>
>
>
>
>

Posted by measekite on December 23rd, 2005


That is good.

Michael Swift wrote:

>In article <43AC577E.6080109@nospam.com>, John <John@nospam.com> writes
>
>
>>Too bad that I paid so much for the HP printer or I would have just
>>chucked it. When it came time to buy a printer for my wife, you can be
>>certain it wasn't an HP.
>>
>>

>
>I've an almost new Epson C82 in the garage which wouldn't recognise
>compatible cartridges, it's about time the government got stuck into
>printer makers, thieving bar stewards.
>
>Mike
>
>
>

Posted by Rebecca on December 23rd, 2005


measekite wrote:
> Why do you no longer disclose that you are employed by HP?


Why do you top post?

>
> Bob Headrick wrote:
>
>> "Will-Lee-Cue" <n5wrx@stx.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:zRYqf.11208$g_6.9630@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>
>>
>>> What models have this time limit?
>>> Is the HP DeskJet 1220C exempt from this?
>>>
>>>

>>
>> The models that enforce out of ink or cartridge expiration are those
>> that have separate printheads and ink supplies. If the ink runs out
>> or become old and thickened damage to the printhead may occur, thus
>> the expiration. This includes the Business Inkjet Series, the D
>> series all-in-ones and a few other models. No DeskJet printer has a
>> cartridge expiration, so the DeskJet 1220 is not affected.
>>
>> The original poster would probably be better off with a different
>> printer. The ink generally expires after 30 months in the printer. If
>> you do not use a color cartridge in 2 1/2 years you would
>> probably be better off with a DeskJet such as the 6540 which will
>> work without a color cartridge installed if necessary.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob Headrick



Posted by Archdeacon Jud ibn Habib al-Arubah on December 23rd, 2005


On or about 24/12/05, "Bob Headrick" <bobh@proaxis.com>, the broken down
vagrant and insatiable yellow-stream queer who likes violent butthole
surfing with marmots, and whose partner is a whore-bitch with a
monstrous cock squeezer, wrote in <11qoq8urce3j850@corp.supernews.com>:

> "Will-Lee-Cue" <n5wrx@stx.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:zRYqf.11208$g_6.9630@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> What models have this time limit?
>> Is the HP DeskJet 1220C exempt from this?

>
> The models that enforce out of ink or cartridge expiration are those
> that have separate printheads and ink supplies. If the ink runs out
> or become old and thickened damage to the printhead may occur, thus
> the expiration. This includes the Business Inkjet Series, the D
> series all-in-ones and a few other models. No DeskJet printer has a
> cartridge expiration, so the DeskJet 1220 is not affected.
>
> The original poster would probably be better off with a different
> printer. The ink generally expires after 30 months in the printer. If you
> do not use a color cartridge in 2 1/2 years you would probably
> be better off with a DeskJet such as the 6540 which will work without
> a color cartridge installed if necessary.


That reads as if you're a paid shill.



Posted by Tony on December 23rd, 2005


measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
>Why do you no longer disclose that you are employed by HP?
>
>Bob Headrick wrote:
>
>>"Will-Lee-Cue" <n5wrx@stx.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:zRYqf.11208$g_6.9630@tornado.texas.rr.com.. .
>>
>>
>>>What models have this time limit?
>>>Is the HP DeskJet 1220C exempt from this?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>The models that enforce out of ink or cartridge expiration are those that
>>have
>>separate printheads and ink supplies. If the ink runs out or become old and
>>thickened damage to the printhead may occur, thus the expiration. This
>>includes the Business Inkjet Series, the D series all-in-ones and a few other
>>models. No DeskJet printer has a cartridge expiration, so the DeskJet 1220
>>is
>>not affected.
>>
>>The original poster would probably be better off with a different printer.
>>The
>>ink generally expires after 30 months in the printer. If you do not use a
>>color cartridge in 2 1/2 years you would probably be better off with a
>>DeskJet
>>such as the 6540 which will work without a color cartridge installed if
>>necessary.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Bob Headrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Because he isn't.
And if he was why should he?
Happy Christmas.

Posted by measekite on December 24th, 2005


I just

Rebecca wrote:

>measekite wrote:
>
>
>>Why do you no longer disclose that you are employed by HP?
>>
>>

felt

>
>Why do you top post?
>
>
>

like it

>>Bob Headrick wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>"Will-Lee-Cue" <n5wrx@stx.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:zRYqf.11208$g_6.9630@tornado.texas.rr.com. ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>What models have this time limit?
>>>>Is the HP DeskJet 1220C exempt from this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>The models that enforce out of ink or cartridge expiration are those
>>>that have separate printheads and ink supplies. If the ink runs out
>>>or become old and thickened damage to the printhead may occur, thus
>>>the expiration. This includes the Business Inkjet Series, the D
>>>series all-in-ones and a few other models. No DeskJet printer has a
>>>cartridge expiration, so the DeskJet 1220 is not affected.
>>>
>>>The original poster would probably be better off with a different
>>>printer. The ink generally expires after 30 months in the printer. If
>>>you do not use a color cartridge in 2 1/2 years you would
>>>probably be better off with a DeskJet such as the 6540 which will
>>>work without a color cartridge installed if necessary.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Bob Headrick
>>>
>>>

>
>
>
>

Posted by Bob Headrick on December 24th, 2005



"Bob Headrick" <bobh@proaxis.com> wrote in message
news:11qoq8urce3j850@corp.supernews.com...
> No DeskJet printer has a cartridge expiration, so the DeskJet 1220 is not
> affected.


Hmm, and I thought the comp.periphs.printers resident troll was a problem. My
killfile is growing.

- Bob Headrick, retired from HP


Posted by Andrew Rossmann on December 24th, 2005


In article <11qoq8urce3j850@corp.supernews.com>, bobh@proaxis.com
says...
>
> "Will-Lee-Cue" <n5wrx@stx.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:zRYqf.11208$g_6.9630@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > What models have this time limit?
> > Is the HP DeskJet 1220C exempt from this?

>
> The models that enforce out of ink or cartridge expiration are those that have
> separate printheads and ink supplies. If the ink runs out or become old and
> thickened damage to the printhead may occur, thus the expiration. This
> includes the Business Inkjet Series, the D series all-in-ones and a few other
> models. No DeskJet printer has a cartridge expiration, so the DeskJet 1220 is
> not affected.


If the heads are also user replaceable, then why force the expiration?
If you damage the heads, then HP makes even more profit from their
replacement!

--
If there is a no_junk in my address, please REMOVE it before replying!
All junk mail senders will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the
law!!
http://home.att.net/~andyross

Posted by John on December 24th, 2005


Andrew Rossmann wrote:
> In article <11qoq8urce3j850@corp.supernews.com>, bobh@proaxis.com
> says...
>>
>> "Will-Lee-Cue" <n5wrx@stx.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:zRYqf.11208$g_6.9630@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> > What models have this time limit?
>> > Is the HP DeskJet 1220C exempt from this?

>>
>> The models that enforce out of ink or cartridge expiration are those that have
>> separate printheads and ink supplies. If the ink runs out or become old and
>> thickened damage to the printhead may occur, thus the expiration. This
>> includes the Business Inkjet Series, the D series all-in-ones and a few other
>> models. No DeskJet printer has a cartridge expiration, so the DeskJet 1220 is
>> not affected.

>
> If the heads are also user replaceable, then why force the expiration?
> If you damage the heads, then HP makes even more profit from their
> replacement!
>


I wonder why the ink doesn't go bad in Europe -- the "smart" chips are banned
in the EU since they thwart recycling.

Posted by Will-Lee-Cue on December 24th, 2005



Well ... I Guess if the expiration time is over a year from when it is
installed then I see no problem on this end. I think I am an average home
printer user and replace the ink in my HP 1220C at least once a year.


Posted by nos1eep on December 25th, 2005


On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 02:14:16 GMT, John <John@nospam.com> spewed the
following drivel:

<snipped for Rebecca's benifit>

<> <
<> <Hey, c'mon guys. This is the day of our Lord Sweet Jesus's
birthday.
<> Can't
<> <we all just get along for the sake of the big guy?
<>
<> I invented a drink that I call sweet jesus. 1 shot grain alcohol
(190
<> proof) 1 shot 151 rum, a splash of vermouth and a dash of
grenadine.
<> I mixed this up one night and got my date to slam it. After she got
<> done going through the appropriate color changes and stopped
retching,
<> the first words out of her mouth were "Sweet Jesus, wtf is that
crap."
<
<Are you still going out with her?

Sort of, I made a jacket out of her.
--

-nos1eep

Q. What's the difference between a brown-noser and a shit-head?
A. Depth perception.

-Scaling up the heights of folly.
-non est ponenda pluritas sine necessitate

Posted by Spikey on December 30th, 2005



"Bob Headrick" <bobh@proaxis.com> wrote in message > models. No DeskJet
printer has a cartridge expiration, so the DeskJet 1220 is
> not affected.


Bob, I have a Deskjet 1280. I have sucessfully refilled the cartridges but
the ink indicator wont reset even though I went through the new cartridge
procedure. Any idea how to reset it? Its printing OK but still shows as
low ink in the tool box.

Sorry to tag on to this thread. Meant to post before Xmas so hope you see
this.


Posted by Arthur Entlich on January 4th, 2006


It certainly is. It is completely misattributed.

I did not write or generate any of it.

It seems pretty obvious.

Art

Diogenes wrote:

> Arthur Entlich wrote:
>
>>Arthur Entlich <e-printerhelp@mvps.org>, the pudgy ...
>>

>


rest of vulgar idiocy removed.

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