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Defrag is slow
Posted by Ross on October 25th, 2005


Hello,

I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run Defrag, it starts
the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it stays at 1%,
even after hours of running.

I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in msconfig,
under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But don't know
which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong file...

Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a link/FAQ which
resolves this problem.

Ross

Posted by Kelly on October 25th, 2005


Defrag isn't really needed in XP with NTFS. Either way, try to run it in
Safe Mode. Good luck and keep us posted.

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"Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4205D47D-5C9A-4BC5-8673-63EAA9992D18@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run Defrag, it
> starts
> the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it stays at
> 1%,
> even after hours of running.
>
> I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in msconfig,
> under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But don't know
> which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong file...
>
> Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a link/FAQ which
> resolves this problem.
>
> Ross



Posted by Andrew E. on October 25th, 2005


Before running defrag,you need to run the disk cleanup utility 1st,then
defrag,
also you dont need to disable mcafee during either.

"Ross" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run Defrag, it starts
> the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it stays at 1%,
> even after hours of running.
>
> I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in msconfig,
> under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But don't know
> which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong file...
>
> Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a link/FAQ which
> resolves this problem.
>
> Ross

Posted by Alias on October 25th, 2005



"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote

> Defrag isn't really needed in XP with NTFS.
> All the Best,
> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)


You're kidding, right? XP has the defrag program as an alternative to Spider
Solitaire?

Alias


Posted by Ross on October 25th, 2005


Hi everyone, and thankyou for you replies!

OKAY,
I did run the disk clean up utlility before defraging and it does the same
thing in safe mode.

Do you think its Mcafee! Should I uninstall it ?

Last night I left defrag go all night, until this morning at 11:00AM and it
only had 4% done!!!!!!!

Is there anyone that already had this problem!!!

Ross

"Andrew E." wrote:

> Before running defrag,you need to run the disk cleanup utility 1st,then
> defrag,
> also you dont need to disable mcafee during either.
>
> "Ross" wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run Defrag, it starts
> > the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it stays at 1%,
> > even after hours of running.
> >
> > I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in msconfig,
> > under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But don't know
> > which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong file...
> >
> > Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a link/FAQ which
> > resolves this problem.
> >
> > Ross

Posted by Trax on October 25th, 2005


"Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

|>Hi everyone, and thankyou for you replies!
|>
|>OKAY,
|>I did run the disk clean up utlility before defraging and it does the same
|>thing in safe mode.
|>
|>Do you think its Mcafee! Should I uninstall it ?
|>
|>Last night I left defrag go all night, until this morning at 11:00AM and it
|>only had 4% done!!!!!!!
|>
|>Is there anyone that already had this problem!!!

I've never before had a problem with Defrag with any windows OS.

I got a new computer and now have the same problem you have. I've
tried a lot of defrag programs none of them are doing the trick. They
all sit at some small percentage after a running all night.

I'm in the process of finding a Linux LiveCD that has a defrag program
and see if that works. I use FAT32 and not NTFS because it's an easier
to work with at times like this.


|>
|>> Before running defrag,you need to run the disk cleanup utility 1st,then
|>> defrag,
|>> also you dont need to disable mcafee during either.
|>>
|>> "Ross" wrote:
|>>
|>> > Hello,
|>> >
|>> > I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run Defrag, it starts
|>> > the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it stays at 1%,
|>> > even after hours of running.
|>> >
|>> > I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in msconfig,
|>> > under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But don't know
|>> > which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong file...
|>> >
|>> > Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a link/FAQ which
|>> > resolves this problem.
|>> >
|>> > Ross


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Posted by Gerry Cornell on October 25th, 2005


How large is your hard disk and how much free space? Before running Disk
Defragmenter run Disk CleanUp in each active User
Profile to remove Temporary Internet Files. If free disk space is an
issue select the More Options tab in Disk CleanUp and System Restore.

Whilst Disk Defragmenter is running try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring Task
Manager and select the
Performance Tab. What is the Commit Charge? What was the Peak? What RAM
memory do you have?


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"Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9E34AC04-4270-4432-9E8A-227544564B15@microsoft.com...
> Hi everyone, and thankyou for you replies!
>
> OKAY,
> I did run the disk clean up utlility before defraging and it does the
> same
> thing in safe mode.
>
> Do you think its Mcafee! Should I uninstall it ?
>
> Last night I left defrag go all night, until this morning at 11:00AM
> and it
> only had 4% done!!!!!!!
>
> Is there anyone that already had this problem!!!
>
> Ross
>
> "Andrew E." wrote:
>
>> Before running defrag,you need to run the disk cleanup utility
>> 1st,then
>> defrag,
>> also you dont need to disable mcafee during either.
>>
>> "Ross" wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run Defrag,
>> > it starts
>> > the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it
>> > stays at 1%,
>> > even after hours of running.
>> >
>> > I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in
>> > msconfig,
>> > under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But
>> > don't know
>> > which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong
>> > file...
>> >
>> > Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a link/FAQ
>> > which
>> > resolves this problem.
>> >
>> > Ross


Posted by Someone on October 25th, 2005


I use the XP defragger since I got XP a couple of months ago. However,
after analyzing the disk, it said I needed to defrag one time, over a month
ago, and each week I check it says I don't need to defrag, so I don't.
Since it doesn't defrag less than 5%, if the deframentation is not over 5%,
it will recommend not doing it.

Before I had XP, I had ME and used a utility called Diskeeper, which defrags
while you use the puter. It can work on a schedule, as it deems it
necessary, etc. It costs, IIRC, around $50, but since I had problems which
may or may not be attributed to Diskeeper, I don't and won't use anything
but the Windows defragger.
"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
news:ePvUS8U2FHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote
>
>> Defrag isn't really needed in XP with NTFS.
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

>
> You're kidding, right? XP has the defrag program as an alternative to
> Spider Solitaire?
>
> Alias
>



Posted by Bob I on October 25th, 2005


Umm, the Windows defragger is a trimmed version of Diskeeper.

Someone wrote:

> I use the XP defragger since I got XP a couple of months ago. However,
> after analyzing the disk, it said I needed to defrag one time, over a month
> ago, and each week I check it says I don't need to defrag, so I don't.
> Since it doesn't defrag less than 5%, if the deframentation is not over 5%,
> it will recommend not doing it.
>
> Before I had XP, I had ME and used a utility called Diskeeper, which defrags
> while you use the puter. It can work on a schedule, as it deems it
> necessary, etc. It costs, IIRC, around $50, but since I had problems which
> may or may not be attributed to Diskeeper, I don't and won't use anything
> but the Windows defragger.
> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
> news:ePvUS8U2FHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
>>"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote
>>
>>
>>>Defrag isn't really needed in XP with NTFS.
>>>All the Best,
>>>Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

>>
>>You're kidding, right? XP has the defrag program as an alternative to
>>Spider Solitaire?
>>
>>Alias
>>

>
>
>


Posted by Gerry Cornell on October 25th, 2005


Notwithstanding it says you do not need to defragment what files are
listed as fragmented? Why the files you access and update regularly!

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"Someone" <Someone@something.net> wrote in message
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>I use the XP defragger since I got XP a couple of months ago. However,
>after analyzing the disk, it said I needed to defrag one time, over a
>month ago, and each week I check it says I don't need to defrag, so I
>don't. Since it doesn't defrag less than 5%, if the deframentation is
>not over 5%, it will recommend not doing it.
>
> Before I had XP, I had ME and used a utility called Diskeeper, which
> defrags while you use the puter. It can work on a schedule, as it
> deems it necessary, etc. It costs, IIRC, around $50, but since I had
> problems which may or may not be attributed to Diskeeper, I don't and
> won't use anything but the Windows defragger.
> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
> news:ePvUS8U2FHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote
>>
>>> Defrag isn't really needed in XP with NTFS.
>>> All the Best,
>>> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

>>
>> You're kidding, right? XP has the defrag program as an alternative to
>> Spider Solitaire?
>>
>> Alias
>>

>
>


Posted by Uncle Grumpy on October 25th, 2005


Alias wrote:
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote
>
> > Defrag isn't really needed in XP with NTFS.
> > All the Best,
> > Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

>
> You're kidding, right? XP has the defrag program as an alternative to Spider
> Solitaire?


No. Kelly is NOy "kidding". She has better way to use her time here.

Posted by Alias on October 26th, 2005



"Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> Alias wrote:
>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote
>>
>> > Defrag isn't really needed in XP with NTFS.
>> > All the Best,
>> > Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

>>
>> You're kidding, right? XP has the defrag program as an alternative to
>> Spider
>> Solitaire?

>
> No. Kelly is NOy "kidding". She has better way to use her time here.


And the answer to my other question is?

Alias


Posted by Ross on October 26th, 2005


Hi Jerry!

OKAY, here is the data you requested...

Commit charge:
Total:197100
Limit:1278436
Peak:213280

RAM:
Total:522032

I was wondering if any of the the items in start up tab of msconfig should
be deleted....

Anyway get back... I don't know what else to do!!!!

Ross

"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

> How large is your hard disk and how much free space? Before running Disk
> Defragmenter run Disk CleanUp in each active User
> Profile to remove Temporary Internet Files. If free disk space is an
> issue select the More Options tab in Disk CleanUp and System Restore.
>
> Whilst Disk Defragmenter is running try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring Task
> Manager and select the
> Performance Tab. What is the Commit Charge? What was the Peak? What RAM
> memory do you have?
>
>
> --
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
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> "Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9E34AC04-4270-4432-9E8A-227544564B15@microsoft.com...
> > Hi everyone, and thankyou for you replies!
> >
> > OKAY,
> > I did run the disk clean up utlility before defraging and it does the
> > same
> > thing in safe mode.
> >
> > Do you think its Mcafee! Should I uninstall it ?
> >
> > Last night I left defrag go all night, until this morning at 11:00AM
> > and it
> > only had 4% done!!!!!!!
> >
> > Is there anyone that already had this problem!!!
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > "Andrew E." wrote:
> >
> >> Before running defrag,you need to run the disk cleanup utility
> >> 1st,then
> >> defrag,
> >> also you dont need to disable mcafee during either.
> >>
> >> "Ross" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run Defrag,
> >> > it starts
> >> > the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it
> >> > stays at 1%,
> >> > even after hours of running.
> >> >
> >> > I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in
> >> > msconfig,
> >> > under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But
> >> > don't know
> >> > which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong
> >> > file...
> >> >
> >> > Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a link/FAQ
> >> > which
> >> > resolves this problem.
> >> >
> >> > Ross

>
>

Posted by Peter Foldes on October 26th, 2005


Have you run chkdsk lately. Might want to run that first.

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"Trax" <Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov> wrote in message news:tkosl1hq83p3mk2ar3sndkknin6hjpk5hq@4ax.com...
> "Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> |>Hi everyone, and thankyou for you replies!
> |>
> |>OKAY,
> |>I did run the disk clean up utlility before defraging and it does the same
> |>thing in safe mode.
> |>
> |>Do you think its Mcafee! Should I uninstall it ?
> |>
> |>Last night I left defrag go all night, until this morning at 11:00AM and it
> |>only had 4% done!!!!!!!
> |>
> |>Is there anyone that already had this problem!!!
>
> I've never before had a problem with Defrag with any windows OS.
>
> I got a new computer and now have the same problem you have. I've
> tried a lot of defrag programs none of them are doing the trick. They
> all sit at some small percentage after a running all night.
>
> I'm in the process of finding a Linux LiveCD that has a defrag program
> and see if that works. I use FAT32 and not NTFS because it's an easier
> to work with at times like this.
>
>
> |>
> |>> Before running defrag,you need to run the disk cleanup utility 1st,then
> |>> defrag,
> |>> also you dont need to disable mcafee during either.
> |>>
> |>> "Ross" wrote:
> |>>
> |>> > Hello,
> |>> >
> |>> > I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run Defrag, it starts
> |>> > the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it stays at 1%,
> |>> > even after hours of running.
> |>> >
> |>> > I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in msconfig,
> |>> > under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But don't know
> |>> > which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong file...
> |>> >
> |>> > Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a link/FAQ which
> |>> > resolves this problem.
> |>> >
> |>> > Ross
>
>
> --
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Posted by Gerry Cornell on October 26th, 2005


Ross

The figures from Task Manager look OK. I would not recommend deleting
items from the start up folder.

I am not clear what you have done regarding my other suggestions?

How large is your hard disk and how much free space? Before running Disk
Defragmenter run Disk CleanUp in each active User Profile to remove
Temporary Internet Files. If free disk space is an issue ( less than 15%
free space ) select the More Options tab in Disk CleanUp and System
Restore.

Some further thoughts.

Run chkdsk. In Windows Explorer right click on the drive and select
Properties, Tools, Error Checker.

Have you tried running Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode? An earlier post
by you mentioned safe mode but I am not sure whether you meant that you
ran Disk CleanUp or Disk Defragmenter?

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"Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9BC33BC2-0A0F-42B3-8D8A-707A1C9BFA1C@microsoft.com...
> Hi Jerry!
>
> OKAY, here is the data you requested...
>
> Commit charge:
> Total:197100
> Limit:1278436
> Peak:213280
>
> RAM:
> Total:522032
>
> I was wondering if any of the the items in start up tab of msconfig
> should
> be deleted....
>
> Anyway get back... I don't know what else to do!!!!
>
> Ross
>
> "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
>
>> How large is your hard disk and how much free space? Before running
>> Disk
>> Defragmenter run Disk CleanUp in each active User
>> Profile to remove Temporary Internet Files. If free disk space is an
>> issue select the More Options tab in Disk CleanUp and System Restore.
>>
>> Whilst Disk Defragmenter is running try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring Task
>> Manager and select the
>> Performance Tab. What is the Commit Charge? What was the Peak? What
>> RAM
>> memory do you have?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
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>> "Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9E34AC04-4270-4432-9E8A-227544564B15@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi everyone, and thankyou for you replies!
>> >
>> > OKAY,
>> > I did run the disk clean up utlility before defraging and it does
>> > the
>> > same
>> > thing in safe mode.
>> >
>> > Do you think its Mcafee! Should I uninstall it ?
>> >
>> > Last night I left defrag go all night, until this morning at
>> > 11:00AM
>> > and it
>> > only had 4% done!!!!!!!
>> >
>> > Is there anyone that already had this problem!!!
>> >
>> > Ross
>> >
>> > "Andrew E." wrote:
>> >
>> >> Before running defrag,you need to run the disk cleanup utility
>> >> 1st,then
>> >> defrag,
>> >> also you dont need to disable mcafee during either.
>> >>
>> >> "Ross" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run
>> >> > Defrag,
>> >> > it starts
>> >> > the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it
>> >> > stays at 1%,
>> >> > even after hours of running.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in
>> >> > msconfig,
>> >> > under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But
>> >> > don't know
>> >> > which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong
>> >> > file...
>> >> >
>> >> > Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a
>> >> > link/FAQ
>> >> > which
>> >> > resolves this problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ross

>>
>>


Posted by Grim Reaper on October 26th, 2005


Ross,

Can you post us a list of all your Processes from Task Manager?

Thanks.
_______________________________________________
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"Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9BC33BC2-0A0F-42B3-8D8A-707A1C9BFA1C@microsoft.com...
> Hi Jerry!
>
> OKAY, here is the data you requested...
>
> Commit charge:
> Total:197100
> Limit:1278436
> Peak:213280
>
> RAM:
> Total:522032
>
> I was wondering if any of the the items in start up tab of msconfig should
> be deleted....
>
> Anyway get back... I don't know what else to do!!!!
>
> Ross
>
> "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
>
>> How large is your hard disk and how much free space? Before running Disk
>> Defragmenter run Disk CleanUp in each active User
>> Profile to remove Temporary Internet Files. If free disk space is an
>> issue select the More Options tab in Disk CleanUp and System Restore.
>>
>> Whilst Disk Defragmenter is running try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring Task
>> Manager and select the
>> Performance Tab. What is the Commit Charge? What was the Peak? What RAM
>> memory do you have?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>> "Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9E34AC04-4270-4432-9E8A-227544564B15@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi everyone, and thankyou for you replies!
>> >
>> > OKAY,
>> > I did run the disk clean up utlility before defraging and it does the
>> > same
>> > thing in safe mode.
>> >
>> > Do you think its Mcafee! Should I uninstall it ?
>> >
>> > Last night I left defrag go all night, until this morning at 11:00AM
>> > and it
>> > only had 4% done!!!!!!!
>> >
>> > Is there anyone that already had this problem!!!
>> >
>> > Ross
>> >
>> > "Andrew E." wrote:
>> >
>> >> Before running defrag,you need to run the disk cleanup utility
>> >> 1st,then
>> >> defrag,
>> >> also you dont need to disable mcafee during either.
>> >>
>> >> "Ross" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run Defrag,
>> >> > it starts
>> >> > the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it
>> >> > stays at 1%,
>> >> > even after hours of running.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in
>> >> > msconfig,
>> >> > under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But
>> >> > don't know
>> >> > which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong
>> >> > file...
>> >> >
>> >> > Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a link/FAQ
>> >> > which
>> >> > resolves this problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ross

>>
>>



Posted by Bluekylin on October 26th, 2005


try another defrag tool

Posted by Bob I on October 26th, 2005


Just a thought, but is the drive set to use DMA and is it working?
Device Manager and check the IDE channel Properties for transfer Mode.
(Advanced settings) If it's using PIO for the device its going to be
real slow.

Ross wrote:

> Hi Jerry!
>
> OKAY, here is the data you requested...
>
> Commit charge:
> Total:197100
> Limit:1278436
> Peak:213280
>
> RAM:
> Total:522032
>
> I was wondering if any of the the items in start up tab of msconfig should
> be deleted....
>
> Anyway get back... I don't know what else to do!!!!
>
> Ross
>
> "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
>
>
>>How large is your hard disk and how much free space? Before running Disk
>>Defragmenter run Disk CleanUp in each active User
>>Profile to remove Temporary Internet Files. If free disk space is an
>>issue select the More Options tab in Disk CleanUp and System Restore.
>>
>>Whilst Disk Defragmenter is running try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring Task
>>Manager and select the
>>Performance Tab. What is the Commit Charge? What was the Peak? What RAM
>>memory do you have?
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Gerry
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>FCA
>>
>>Using invalid email address
>>
>>Stourport, Worcs, England
>>Enquire, plan and execute.
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>Please tell the newsgroup how any
>>suggested solution worked for you.
>>
>>http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>"Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:9E34AC04-4270-4432-9E8A-227544564B15@microsoft.com...
>>
>>>Hi everyone, and thankyou for you replies!
>>>
>>>OKAY,
>>>I did run the disk clean up utlility before defraging and it does the
>>>same
>>>thing in safe mode.
>>>
>>>Do you think its Mcafee! Should I uninstall it ?
>>>
>>>Last night I left defrag go all night, until this morning at 11:00AM
>>>and it
>>>only had 4% done!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>Is there anyone that already had this problem!!!
>>>
>>>Ross
>>>
>>>"Andrew E." wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Before running defrag,you need to run the disk cleanup utility
>>>>1st,then
>>>>defrag,
>>>> also you dont need to disable mcafee during either.
>>>>
>>>>"Ross" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run Defrag,
>>>>>it starts
>>>>>the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it
>>>>>stays at 1%,
>>>>>even after hours of running.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in
>>>>>msconfig,
>>>>>under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But
>>>>>don't know
>>>>>which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong
>>>>>file...
>>>>>
>>>>>Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a link/FAQ
>>>>>which
>>>>>resolves this problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ross

>>
>>


Posted by Ross on October 26th, 2005


Hi, Gerry...

OKAY,

My harddrive is 80G
22G used
57G Free

I only tried Defrag in safe mode. I will try disk clean up in safe mode
right after this post!
I did try to run disk clean up in normal mode and still nothing....
And yes I did run chkdsk as you mention it ... I did this last night.. and
still nothing.

I am wondering if this is not an XP issue or if Defrag does this when it
sees that there is really no need to defrag the Hard drive.... I don't know...

All I know is that quite a few people have this problem and no one knows how
to get rid of this DEFRAG MAL FUNCTION I call it!!!!

And you know what I REALLY DON'T FEEL OR HAVE THE TIME OR ENERYGY TO
RE-FORMAT MY HARD DRIVE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!

I was wondering if I un-install Mcafee, I know you or in one of the posts
someone discouraged this, however these virus scan programs have caused me
alot of headaches in the passed.

SO I have tried:
Running mcafee in normal and safe mode,
Running adaware in normal and safe mode,
Running Noadaware in normal and safe mode,
Running TuneUp utility in normal and safe mode,
Running Disk clean up in normal but not in safe mode, (I will try that after
this post)
Running CHKDSK through Windows C: properties
Running Defrag in normal and safe mode, (Both flopped!)

The commit and Ram parameters seem OKAY
I even tried SFC/ scannow! incase there would be some file coruption deep in
the Windows underworld!

I don't anymore man!
Ross!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP!


"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

> Ross
>
> The figures from Task Manager look OK. I would not recommend deleting
> items from the start up folder.
>
> I am not clear what you have done regarding my other suggestions?
>
> How large is your hard disk and how much free space? Before running Disk
> Defragmenter run Disk CleanUp in each active User Profile to remove
> Temporary Internet Files. If free disk space is an issue ( less than 15%
> free space ) select the More Options tab in Disk CleanUp and System
> Restore.
>
> Some further thoughts.
>
> Run chkdsk. In Windows Explorer right click on the drive and select
> Properties, Tools, Error Checker.
>
> Have you tried running Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode? An earlier post
> by you mentioned safe mode but I am not sure whether you meant that you
> ran Disk CleanUp or Disk Defragmenter?
>
> --
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> FCA
>
> Using invalid email address
>
> Stourport, Worcs, England
> Enquire, plan and execute.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Please tell the newsgroup how any
> suggested solution worked for you.
>
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> "Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9BC33BC2-0A0F-42B3-8D8A-707A1C9BFA1C@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Jerry!
> >
> > OKAY, here is the data you requested...
> >
> > Commit charge:
> > Total:197100
> > Limit:1278436
> > Peak:213280
> >
> > RAM:
> > Total:522032
> >
> > I was wondering if any of the the items in start up tab of msconfig
> > should
> > be deleted....
> >
> > Anyway get back... I don't know what else to do!!!!
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
> >
> >> How large is your hard disk and how much free space? Before running
> >> Disk
> >> Defragmenter run Disk CleanUp in each active User
> >> Profile to remove Temporary Internet Files. If free disk space is an
> >> issue select the More Options tab in Disk CleanUp and System Restore.
> >>
> >> Whilst Disk Defragmenter is running try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring Task
> >> Manager and select the
> >> Performance Tab. What is the Commit Charge? What was the Peak? What
> >> RAM
> >> memory do you have?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> FCA
> >>
> >> Using invalid email address
> >>
> >> Stourport, Worcs, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute.
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Please tell the newsgroup how any
> >> suggested solution worked for you.
> >>
> >> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> "Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:9E34AC04-4270-4432-9E8A-227544564B15@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi everyone, and thankyou for you replies!
> >> >
> >> > OKAY,
> >> > I did run the disk clean up utlility before defraging and it does
> >> > the
> >> > same
> >> > thing in safe mode.
> >> >
> >> > Do you think its Mcafee! Should I uninstall it ?
> >> >
> >> > Last night I left defrag go all night, until this morning at
> >> > 11:00AM
> >> > and it
> >> > only had 4% done!!!!!!!
> >> >
> >> > Is there anyone that already had this problem!!!
> >> >
> >> > Ross
> >> >
> >> > "Andrew E." wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Before running defrag,you need to run the disk cleanup utility
> >> >> 1st,then
> >> >> defrag,
> >> >> also you dont need to disable mcafee during either.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Ross" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run
> >> >> > Defrag,
> >> >> > it starts
> >> >> > the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it
> >> >> > stays at 1%,
> >> >> > even after hours of running.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in
> >> >> > msconfig,
> >> >> > under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But
> >> >> > don't know
> >> >> > which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong
> >> >> > file...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a
> >> >> > link/FAQ
> >> >> > which
> >> >> > resolves this problem.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ross
> >>
> >>

>
>

Posted by Grim Reaper on October 27th, 2005


Can you post a list of all your running processes before you run the defrag,
please??
_________________________________
The Grim Reaper

"Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0BCC6878-35F1-4C1D-9E70-53575F3BC826@microsoft.com...
> Hi, Gerry...
>
> OKAY,
>
> My harddrive is 80G
> 22G used
> 57G Free
>
> I only tried Defrag in safe mode. I will try disk clean up in safe mode
> right after this post!
> I did try to run disk clean up in normal mode and still nothing....
> And yes I did run chkdsk as you mention it ... I did this last night.. and
> still nothing.
>
> I am wondering if this is not an XP issue or if Defrag does this when it
> sees that there is really no need to defrag the Hard drive.... I don't
> know...
>
> All I know is that quite a few people have this problem and no one knows
> how
> to get rid of this DEFRAG MAL FUNCTION I call it!!!!
>
> And you know what I REALLY DON'T FEEL OR HAVE THE TIME OR ENERYGY TO
> RE-FORMAT MY HARD DRIVE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!
>
> I was wondering if I un-install Mcafee, I know you or in one of the posts
> someone discouraged this, however these virus scan programs have caused me
> alot of headaches in the passed.
>
> SO I have tried:
> Running mcafee in normal and safe mode,
> Running adaware in normal and safe mode,
> Running Noadaware in normal and safe mode,
> Running TuneUp utility in normal and safe mode,
> Running Disk clean up in normal but not in safe mode, (I will try that
> after
> this post)
> Running CHKDSK through Windows C: properties
> Running Defrag in normal and safe mode, (Both flopped!)
>
> The commit and Ram parameters seem OKAY
> I even tried SFC/ scannow! incase there would be some file coruption deep
> in
> the Windows underworld!
>
> I don't anymore man!
> Ross!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP!
>
>
> "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
>
>> Ross
>>
>> The figures from Task Manager look OK. I would not recommend deleting
>> items from the start up folder.
>>
>> I am not clear what you have done regarding my other suggestions?
>>
>> How large is your hard disk and how much free space? Before running Disk
>> Defragmenter run Disk CleanUp in each active User Profile to remove
>> Temporary Internet Files. If free disk space is an issue ( less than 15%
>> free space ) select the More Options tab in Disk CleanUp and System
>> Restore.
>>
>> Some further thoughts.
>>
>> Run chkdsk. In Windows Explorer right click on the drive and select
>> Properties, Tools, Error Checker.
>>
>> Have you tried running Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode? An earlier post
>> by you mentioned safe mode but I am not sure whether you meant that you
>> ran Disk CleanUp or Disk Defragmenter?
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> FCA
>>
>> Using invalid email address
>>
>> Stourport, Worcs, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Please tell the newsgroup how any
>> suggested solution worked for you.
>>
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9BC33BC2-0A0F-42B3-8D8A-707A1C9BFA1C@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Jerry!
>> >
>> > OKAY, here is the data you requested...
>> >
>> > Commit charge:
>> > Total:197100
>> > Limit:1278436
>> > Peak:213280
>> >
>> > RAM:
>> > Total:522032
>> >
>> > I was wondering if any of the the items in start up tab of msconfig
>> > should
>> > be deleted....
>> >
>> > Anyway get back... I don't know what else to do!!!!
>> >
>> > Ross
>> >
>> > "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
>> >
>> >> How large is your hard disk and how much free space? Before running
>> >> Disk
>> >> Defragmenter run Disk CleanUp in each active User
>> >> Profile to remove Temporary Internet Files. If free disk space is an
>> >> issue select the More Options tab in Disk CleanUp and System Restore.
>> >>
>> >> Whilst Disk Defragmenter is running try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring Task
>> >> Manager and select the
>> >> Performance Tab. What is the Commit Charge? What was the Peak? What
>> >> RAM
>> >> memory do you have?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >> Gerry
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> FCA
>> >>
>> >> Using invalid email address
>> >>
>> >> Stourport, Worcs, England
>> >> Enquire, plan and execute.
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> Please tell the newsgroup how any
>> >> suggested solution worked for you.
>> >>
>> >> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >>
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >>
>> >> "Ross" <Ross@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:9E34AC04-4270-4432-9E8A-227544564B15@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi everyone, and thankyou for you replies!
>> >> >
>> >> > OKAY,
>> >> > I did run the disk clean up utlility before defraging and it does
>> >> > the
>> >> > same
>> >> > thing in safe mode.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you think its Mcafee! Should I uninstall it ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Last night I left defrag go all night, until this morning at
>> >> > 11:00AM
>> >> > and it
>> >> > only had 4% done!!!!!!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there anyone that already had this problem!!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Ross
>> >> >
>> >> > "Andrew E." wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Before running defrag,you need to run the disk cleanup utility
>> >> >> 1st,then
>> >> >> defrag,
>> >> >> also you dont need to disable mcafee during either.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Ross" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hello,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have Windows XP Pro installed on my machine. When I run
>> >> >> > Defrag,
>> >> >> > it starts
>> >> >> > the analysation proccess, however, when it begins to defrag it
>> >> >> > stays at 1%,
>> >> >> > even after hours of running.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have Mcafee installed, but I disable it. I tried to look in
>> >> >> > msconfig,
>> >> >> > under the start up tab... I see many weird files there.... But
>> >> >> > don't know
>> >> >> > which ones are to be removed... I am scared to remove the wrong
>> >> >> > file...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Can someone please help me resolve this or point me to a
>> >> >> > link/FAQ
>> >> >> > which
>> >> >> > resolves this problem.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Ross
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>




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