I had a debacle with my internal hard drive and the external usb hard drive
used for backups. In the only partially successful recovery process, I have
ended up with a folder on my internal data drive (separate partition) that i
know for sure doesnt belong. It was created during the restoration process,
in fact, i created it as a destination folder to restore to (I called it
attempted_recovery_1). It allows itself to be renamed. There are two things
in the folder - one is a folder called 'system volume information' and
another called 'recycler' which i believe was put there by the
backup/restore program 'retrospect express'. In tools>folder options>view, I
have unchecked 'hide system files' & selected 'show hidden files'. Problem
is that I cant delete it now - when I try the error message is " Cannot
delete System Volume Information: Access denied. make sure the disk is not
full or write protected and that the file is not currently in use".

Thank you
=========

If this is a second hard drive installed on XP, these two files are
mandatory. System volume info can only be deleted before windows starts, but
will be returned when windows does start. It contains the ntfs info for you
to be able to use it as a drive. The recycler can be removed by going to the
Recycle bin and selecting Properties, there are tabs with Global, and one for
each drive you have. You can tell windows not to use the recycle bin for
each of the drives and how much to use. With the info you've given, the
restoration process did not work, you just have a new partition.

"frankg" wrote:

> I had a debacle with my internal hard drive and the external usb hard drive
> used for backups. In the only partially successful recovery process, I have
> ended up with a folder on my internal data drive (separate partition) that i
> know for sure doesnt belong. It was created during the restoration process,
> in fact, i created it as a destination folder to restore to (I called it
> attempted_recovery_1). It allows itself to be renamed. There are two things
> in the folder - one is a folder called 'system volume information' and
> another called 'recycler' which i believe was put there by the
> backup/restore program 'retrospect express'. In tools>folder options>view, I
> have unchecked 'hide system files' & selected 'show hidden files'. Problem
> is that I cant delete it now - when I try the error message is " Cannot
> delete System Volume Information: Access denied. make sure the disk is not
> full or write protected and that the file is not currently in use".
>
> Thank you
> =========
>
>
>

I have two hard drives and each has 2 partitions.
On this hard drive XP is installed on one partition. On this second
partition, there is already a folder called System volume info. So the
folder called System volume info within the folder called
attempted_recovery_1 is another one. When I look at the properties (rt
click) on each System volume info, they both show 0 bytes & 0 files


> If this is a second hard drive installed on XP, these two files are
> mandatory. System volume info can only be deleted before windows starts,
> but
> will be returned when windows does start. It contains the ntfs info for
> you
> to be able to use it as a drive. The recycler can be removed by going to
> the
> Recycle bin and selecting Properties, there are tabs with Global, and one
> for
> each drive you have. You can tell windows not to use the recycle bin for
> each of the drives and how much to use. With the info you've given, the
> restoration process did not work, you just have a new partition.
>
> "frankg" wrote:
>
>> I had a debacle with my internal hard drive and the external usb hard
>> drive
>> used for backups. In the only partially successful recovery process, I
>> have
>> ended up with a folder on my internal data drive (separate partition)
>> that i
>> know for sure doesnt belong. It was created during the restoration
>> process,
>> in fact, i created it as a destination folder to restore to (I called it
>> attempted_recovery_1). It allows itself to be renamed. There are two
>> things
>> in the folder - one is a folder called 'system volume information' and
>> another called 'recycler' which i believe was put there by the
>> backup/restore program 'retrospect express'. In tools>folder
>> options>view, I
>> have unchecked 'hide system files' & selected 'show hidden files'.
>> Problem
>> is that I cant delete it now - when I try the error message is " Cannot
>> delete System Volume Information: Access denied. make sure the disk is
>> not
>> full or write protected and that the file is not currently in use".
>>
>> Thank you
>> =========
>>
>>
>>

frankg wrote:

> I have two hard drives and each has 2 partitions.
> On this hard drive XP is installed on one partition. On this second
> partition, there is already a folder called System volume info. So the
> folder called System volume info within the folder called
> attempted_recovery_1 is another one. When I look at the properties (rt
> click) on each System volume info, they both show 0 bytes & 0 files
>
>
>
>>If this is a second hard drive installed on XP, these two files are
>>mandatory. System volume info can only be deleted before windows starts,
>>but
>>will be returned when windows does start. It contains the ntfs info for
>>you
>>to be able to use it as a drive. The recycler can be removed by going to
>>the
>>Recycle bin and selecting Properties, there are tabs with Global, and one
>>for
>>each drive you have. You can tell windows not to use the recycle bin for
>>each of the drives and how much to use. With the info you've given, the
>>restoration process did not work, you just have a new partition.
>>
>>"frankg" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I had a debacle with my internal hard drive and the external usb hard
>>>drive
>>>used for backups. In the only partially successful recovery process, I
>>>have
>>>ended up with a folder on my internal data drive (separate partition)
>>>that i
>>>know for sure doesnt belong. It was created during the restoration
>>>process,
>>>in fact, i created it as a destination folder to restore to (I called it
>>>attempted_recovery_1). It allows itself to be renamed. There are two
>>>things
>>>in the folder - one is a folder called 'system volume information' and
>>>another called 'recycler' which i believe was put there by the
>>>backup/restore program 'retrospect express'. In tools>folder
>>>options>view, I
>>>have unchecked 'hide system files' & selected 'show hidden files'.
>>>Problem
>>>is that I cant delete it now - when I try the error message is " Cannot
>>>delete System Volume Information: Access denied. make sure the disk is
>>>not
>>>full or write protected and that the file is not currently in use".
>>>
>>>Thank you
>>>=========

Try changing the permissions on the folder to allow full access. Then
try to delete it.


--
Rock
MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

I just looked up how to do 'Set, view, change, or remove special permissions
for files and folders' down the page over here
http://support.microsoft.com/default...n-us;Q308419#4 but there
is no security tab under properties. I am the only user and admin on this
macchine at home ( a small 3 machine p2p)




"Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:usDsxvHxFHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> frankg wrote:
>
>> I have two hard drives and each has 2 partitions.
>> On this hard drive XP is installed on one partition. On this second
>> partition, there is already a folder called System volume info. So the
>> folder called System volume info within the folder called
>> attempted_recovery_1 is another one. When I look at the properties (rt
>> click) on each System volume info, they both show 0 bytes & 0 files
>>
>>
>>
>>>If this is a second hard drive installed on XP, these two files are
>>>mandatory. System volume info can only be deleted before windows starts,
>>>but
>>>will be returned when windows does start. It contains the ntfs info for
>>>you
>>>to be able to use it as a drive. The recycler can be removed by going to
>>>the
>>>Recycle bin and selecting Properties, there are tabs with Global, and one
>>>for
>>>each drive you have. You can tell windows not to use the recycle bin for
>>>each of the drives and how much to use. With the info you've given, the
>>>restoration process did not work, you just have a new partition.
>>>
>>>"frankg" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I had a debacle with my internal hard drive and the external usb hard
>>>>drive
>>>>used for backups. In the only partially successful recovery process, I
>>>>have
>>>>ended up with a folder on my internal data drive (separate partition)
>>>>that i
>>>>know for sure doesnt belong. It was created during the restoration
>>>>process,
>>>>in fact, i created it as a destination folder to restore to (I called it
>>>>attempted_recovery_1). It allows itself to be renamed. There are two
>>>>things
>>>>in the folder - one is a folder called 'system volume information' and
>>>>another called 'recycler' which i believe was put there by the
>>>>backup/restore program 'retrospect express'. In tools>folder
>>>>options>view, I
>>>>have unchecked 'hide system files' & selected 'show hidden files'.
>>>>Problem
>>>>is that I cant delete it now - when I try the error message is " Cannot
>>>>delete System Volume Information: Access denied. make sure the disk is
>>>>not
>>>>full or write protected and that the file is not currently in use".
>>>>
>>>>Thank you
>>>>=========
>
> Try changing the permissions on the folder to allow full access. Then try
> to delete it.
>
>
> --
> Rock
> MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

frankg wrote:
> I just looked up how to do 'Set, view, change, or remove special permissions
> for files and folders' down the page over here
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...n-us;Q308419#4 but there
> is no security tab under properties. I am the only user and admin on this
> macchine at home ( a small 3 machine p2p)
>
>
>
>
> "Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:usDsxvHxFHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
>>frankg wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have two hard drives and each has 2 partitions.
>>>On this hard drive XP is installed on one partition. On this second
>>>partition, there is already a folder called System volume info. So the
>>>folder called System volume info within the folder called
>>>attempted_recovery_1 is another one. When I look at the properties (rt
>>>click) on each System volume info, they both show 0 bytes & 0 files
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>If this is a second hard drive installed on XP, these two files are
>>>>mandatory. System volume info can only be deleted before windows starts,
>>>>but
>>>>will be returned when windows does start. It contains the ntfs info for
>>>>you
>>>>to be able to use it as a drive. The recycler can be removed by going to
>>>>the
>>>>Recycle bin and selecting Properties, there are tabs with Global, and one
>>>>for
>>>>each drive you have. You can tell windows not to use the recycle bin for
>>>>each of the drives and how much to use. With the info you've given, the
>>>>restoration process did not work, you just have a new partition.
>>>>
>>>>"frankg" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I had a debacle with my internal hard drive and the external usb hard
>>>>>drive
>>>>>used for backups. In the only partially successful recovery process, I
>>>>>have
>>>>>ended up with a folder on my internal data drive (separate partition)
>>>>>that i
>>>>>know for sure doesnt belong. It was created during the restoration
>>>>>process,
>>>>>in fact, i created it as a destination folder to restore to (I called it
>>>>>attempted_recovery_1). It allows itself to be renamed. There are two
>>>>>things
>>>>>in the folder - one is a folder called 'system volume information' and
>>>>>another called 'recycler' which i believe was put there by the
>>>>>backup/restore program 'retrospect express'. In tools>folder
>>>>>options>view, I
>>>>>have unchecked 'hide system files' & selected 'show hidden files'.
>>>>>Problem
>>>>>is that I cant delete it now - when I try the error message is " Cannot
>>>>>delete System Volume Information: Access denied. make sure the disk is
>>>>>not
>>>>>full or write protected and that the file is not currently in use".
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you
>>>>>=========
>>
>>Try changing the permissions on the folder to allow full access. Then try
>>to delete it.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Rock
>>MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>
>
>
>

If XP Pro turn off Simple File Sharing. Open Windows Explorer, go to
Tools | Folder Options | View. Untic "Use simple file sharing
(recommended". If XP Home you must login as the Administrator in safe
mode to get there.

--
Rock
MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

Hi Frank,

Where are the System Restore files located on the drive?
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#SRFileLocation

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org

frankg wrote:
> I had a debacle with my internal hard drive and the
> external usb hard drive used for backups. In the only
> partially successful recovery process, I have ended up
> with a folder on my internal data drive (separate
> partition) that i know for sure doesnt belong. It was
> created during the restoration process, in fact, i
> created it as a destination folder to restore to (I
> called it attempted_recovery_1). It allows itself to be
> renamed. There are two things in the folder - one is a
> folder called 'system volume information' and another
> called 'recycler' which i believe was put there by the
> backup/restore program 'retrospect express'. In
> tools>folder options>view, I have unchecked 'hide system
> files' & selected 'show hidden files'. Problem is that I
> cant delete it now - when I try the error message is "
> Cannot delete System Volume Information: Access denied.
> make sure the disk is not full or write protected and
> that the file is not currently in use".
> Thank you
> =========