I've heard about horrible problems involving SP3 on some AMD computers. I
cannot afford to have my work computer down, even for a day.

I think I'll wait until this mess gets cleared up.

The issue only affects some computers that came with
a computer manufacturer's OEM version of Windows XP.
See the following:
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...ng-xp-sp3.aspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

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"Paul Pedersen" wrote:

I've heard about horrible problems involving SP3 on some AMD computers. I
cannot afford to have my work computer down, even for a day.

I think I'll wait until this mess gets cleared up.

Paul Pedersen wrote:
"required", you are probably smart to wait. But I'd take time reading
the messages here, and links on the net about it. You'll have to go to
SP3 some day, even if a year from now, and knowledge is a good thing.
They will not fix SP3 as its a final now. So you'll eventually have to
get a fix someway.

That article also mentions a second problem, which appears to affect only
custom-built machines with AMD processors. Yup, that's mine.

It also says it appears to happen only with ASUS boards. I'll have to add
"so far" to that statement. Mine is not ASUS, but I think I'll sit this one
out anyway.

MS may well release "SP3a" soon. Didn't they do that before, with SP1?




"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote in message
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Just yesterday, I installed SP3 on a AMD computer
running Windows XP and had no issues whatsoever.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

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"Big Al" <BigAl@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:yI_Vj.1072$lQ1.731@trnddc02...
Paul Pedersen wrote:
"required", you are probably smart to wait. But I'd take time reading
the messages here, and links on the net about it. You'll have to go to
SP3 some day, even if a year from now, and knowledge is a good thing.
They will not fix SP3 as its a final now. So you'll eventually have to
get a fix someway.

It is not a widespread problem. See Carey's reply. I have had no issues
with my AMD64 Athlon x2 4400+ system or my wifes's AMD64 system.

"Paul Pedersen" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
news:%23xeTFBFtIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

I have an ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe mobo with an AMD64 cpu that did not have any
issues with SP3 so the issue is not too general.

"Paul Pedersen" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
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As I understand the issue, it's due to improperly applying a Factory
image based on an Intel chipset to an AMD system. There is a Intel
driver that loads that causes the boot sequence to loop. So it's not
really an AMD problem but OEM's deploying images incorrectly.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
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SP1a was the same as SP1, except the Microsoft JVM was removed.

: out anyway.
:
: MS may well release "SP3a" soon. Didn't they do that before, with SP1?
:
:
:
:

Thanks for the data point. Yet the stakes are high. I can't afford to spend
a day or even more fixing my computer.

"It will probably work" sounds risky.



"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%23FfRknFtIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

According to that article, there are TWO separate issues. That is one of
them.


"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Pedersen" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
news:eEbRzxFtIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
If you cannot afford downtime, and you have no pressing requirement for the
update, don't run the update. There should be a blocking tool to prevent
it from sneaking in.

If you've got a spare empty drive similar to your own, you can find out if
there would be probems. Simply clone your existing drive to that one,
remove the original (set it aside) and install the clone, and run the
update. If it craters, you have lost nothing but an hour or so, and your
work data and apps are unaffected.

There are a number of free or trial cloning utilities available, such as
the 14-day Acronis TrueImage Home trial.

HTH
-pk

On Mon, 12 May 2008 13:09:32 -0500, "Tom [Pepper] Willett"
<tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:


Yes, because of a legal requirement to do so.


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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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Yeah, the consent agreement with Sun.

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
newsd7h245mjkvu4eqv8mgmjj96bpnshm03tj@4ax.com...

Carey,

Thanks so much for this link. Even though I have an Intel processor, I read
the first section of this blog and it stopped me from taking "drastic action."

The problem:

Yesterday, I decided to reload the XP OS on my HP laptop which is about 3
years old. I took this action because I wanted to "start fresh." Everything
was running OK after I reloaded the XP (using HP's XP disc) until I
downloaded SP3. The problem was that the HP wouldn't shut down properly. It
hung up and I had to shut it down using the power switch. The problem of not
shutting down properly happened only twice. I was about to do something
drastic like reload the XP system again and stay away from SP 3 but I took a
deep breath and used the HP for a few hours this afternoon, shut it down for
an hour, and then rebooted it and used it some more. So far, no problems.
The HP laptop is working like a champ.

Here's a question: Is it unusual for an XP computer to act flakey for little
while after downloading SP3 or did I do something stupid while downloading it
that could make it not shut own properly after downloading SP3?

Anyways, thanks for the link.

oscar

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

been running SP3 on a E6600 (changed to E8500 in Apr) and AMD 64 3.7 (skt
754) since RC1. loaded SP3 on a AMD XP 3200 in a Asus board after reading
this. worked just fine. XP home with all up dates. AMD XP 3200 Asus
A7N8X Deluxe 1 gb RAM 3 HD's (1 ATA & 2 SATA) 2 DVDR BFG 6800 in a
Thermaltake case with an Antec 500. totally custom built 4 + years.


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
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wait and
wait for sp4

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"Paul Pedersen" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:50:24 -0700, "Paul Pedersen" <nospam@no.spam>
wrote:

It sounds as if you don't have a backup plan in effect.

I think that would be more important than worrying about SP3.

On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:31:54 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
<cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote:

It's running quite nicely on my Sempron.

On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:50:24 -0700, "Paul Pedersen" <nospam@no.spam>
wrote:

interested. I'm running Windows XPPro OEM, SP2, on a custom
built Asus MB (Crosshair) with AMD phenom 9600 processor.

I downloaded SP3 (iso) and burned it onto a CD. Disabled antivirus,
etc. Installed SP3 from CD. Partway through the install I
got "access is denied" message. (The same thing occurred on my laptop
(Intel), by the way, but not on another Intel based box
I am using.)
The fix I located and tried after an internet search is described as
follows:

1.Install the tool SubInACL.exe from microsoft

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

2. Create a file in notepad with the following lines, and name it
SP3.bat (other sites call it reset.cmd). I saved the batch
file into the same directory that SubInACL.exe was istalled into, (but
it wouldn't make any difference where it is run from

cd /d "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Resource Kits\Tools"
subinacl /subkeyreg HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE /grant=administrators=f
/grant=system=f
subinacl /subkeyreg HKEY_CURRENT_USER /grant=administrators=f
/grant=system=f
subinacl /subkeyreg HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT /grant=administrators=f
/grant=system=f
subinacl /subdirectories %SystemDrive% /grant=administrators=f
/grant=system=f
subinacl /subdirectories %windir%*.* /grant=administrators=f
/grant=system=f
secedit /configure /cfg %windir%\inf\defltbase.inf /db defltbase.sdb
/verbose

Run the batch file (it may take a LONG time)

3. Reboot at SAFE MODE and try to install SP3 again.

This procedure, in slightly different forms, was found on several
sites.

I tried it but again got the "access is denied" message. To add insult
to injury, the next time I rebooted, I got a message
that my "hardware had changed" requiring me to reactivate Windows XP
by telephone. After reactivating, Windows was sluggish in
many ways. The "save as" context either froze the computer or took
forever. Also I was a little uncomfortable having changed
a lot of permissions for registry access that I really didn't
understand.

After this failure to install SP3, I gave up and used a restore point
to restore my system to what it was before I started
the SP3 install. (I also had an Acronis backup available on another HD
for extra security.)

If other posters are correct and there will be no updates to SP3, then
I am probably stuck until more information is
available.

Just passing along this experience to others who may share these
problems.

Best regards,

Jack