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Program instalation
Posted by Sandro on December 12th, 2005


How can I avoid users from installing program?
Some programas required thta they must sign as administrators, but can´t
avoid them to install whatever they want.
Sandro

Posted by Malke on December 12th, 2005


Sandro wrote:

> How can I avoid users from installing program?
> Some programas required thta they must sign as administrators, but
> can´t avoid them to install whatever they want.
> Sandro


Any account with administrative privileges can install software. Check
with the makers of the programs you use that require administrative
privileges to see if 1) they have an update/upgrade that will make
their program work properly with XP; 2) if they don't, what permissions
you need to give users on what folders/registry keys to run their
software. Then make your users Power Users or regular Users (XP Pro
only).

Malke
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Posted by ANONYMOUS on December 12th, 2005



I would change all users' accounts to limited. You do this from Control
Panel, User Accounts, Change Account type.

hth



Sandro wrote:
>
> How can I avoid users from installing program?
> Some programas required thta they must sign as administrators, but can´t
> avoid them to install whatever they want.
> Sandro

Posted by Malke on December 12th, 2005


ANONYMOUS wrote:

>
> I would change all users' accounts to limited. You do this from
> Control Panel, User Accounts, Change Account type.
>


He can't and still run some programs he needs. Unfortunately, this is
the case with 1) older programs not written for a true multi-user
operating system; 2) programs by arrogant companies like Intuit who
refused to fix their code for XP; 3) a lot of "niche" software for
specific industries. The possible workarounds are 1) to assign
appropriate permissions to registry keys and/or folders; 2) upgrade the
software; 3) use different software that is properly written; 4) run
insecurely with all users as administrators.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Posted by ANONYMOUS on December 13th, 2005




Malke wrote:
>


> He can't and still run some programs he needs. Unfortunately, this is
> the case with 1) older programs not written for a true multi-user
> operating system; 2) programs by arrogant companies like Intuit who
> refused to fix their code for XP; 3) a lot of "niche" software for
> specific industries. The possible workarounds are 1) to assign
> appropriate permissions to registry keys and/or folders; 2) upgrade the
> software; 3) use different software that is properly written; 4) run
> insecurely with all users as administrators.
>



Most Windows programs I have dealt with cannot be installed by a Limited
User in XP. Windows Programs can be run as a limited user without
installing e.g. CPUID, MAgicJelly etc but these don't need to be
installed anyway.

I didn't know that Intuit can be installed in Windows XP. If this is
the case then it is XP that is at fault NOT Intuit. XP should not allow
limited user to inatall any programs never mind changing dates and
changing security settings.

We are talking about Installing programs and nor running programs are
we?

Best regards,

Posted by Malke on December 13th, 2005


ANONYMOUS wrote:

> Most Windows programs I have dealt with cannot be installed by a
> Limited
> User in XP. Windows Programs can be run as a limited user without
> installing e.g. CPUID, MAgicJelly etc but these don't need to be
> installed anyway.
>
> I didn't know that Intuit can be installed in Windows XP. If this is
> the case then it is XP that is at fault NOT Intuit. XP should not
> allow limited user to inatall any programs never mind changing dates
> and changing security settings.


> We are talking about Installing programs and nor running programs are
> we?


No. We are talking about the OP's natural and security-wise desire to
keep his users (with accounts that properly do not have administrative
privileges so they cannot install software) being foiled because some
of the programs he needs those users to run will only run in an account
with administrative privileges.

Intuit is the company that makes Quicken and QuickBooks. QuickBooks, an
accounting program widely used by the Windows world, cannot be run in
an account with administrative privileges without going through quite a
few machinations (documented by MVP - and CPA - Susan Bradley on her
website - which you can Google). Intuit have just announced that they
will change their code to work with Vista's new "least privileged user"
setup.

Aside from QuickBooks, this situation is most often seen in businesses
where "niche" software (also called "industry-specific") software is
used. The computer owner must then make a decision whether to run his
workstations securely or to run the programs he needs. Sometimes the
situation occurs in home computer use with older programs that were
designed for DOS/Win9x/ME, operating systems that were not multi-user
OS's with permissions. Workarounds are as I have already stated twice.

Hope that clarified it for you.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Posted by Malke on December 13th, 2005


Malke wrote:

> Intuit is the company that makes Quicken and QuickBooks. QuickBooks,
> an accounting program widely used by the Windows world, cannot be run
> in an account with administrative privileges without going through
> quite a few machinations (documented by MVP - and CPA - Susan Bradley
> on her website - which you can Google). Intuit have just announced
> that they will change their code to work with Vista's new "least
> privileged user" setup.


Correction - this should read "cannot be run in an account *without*
administrative privileges".

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User


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