This appears to be a useful service that XP wants to hide from the casual
user. Why?

When one takes the trouble to go through the many levels necessary to open
the query window, one finds that this has a similarly 'instant' search
ability to Google Desktop - though not a very user friendly one -, with the
additional bonus of being able to find many thousands of 'invisible'
temporary internet files thought to have been regularly 'emptied' via the
'normal' channels!

In the normal 'Search' 'For Files or Folders', one gets from the Start menu,
the option to 'Use the indexing service' can be selected, but searching via
the 'Search' function is still glacial by comparison with Google Desktop,
and far slower than when one takes the trouble to find and use the 'Query
The Indexing Service' window. So, why does 'Search' claim to be using the
indexing service when it appears not to be?

Just to spoil things, XP does not seem to allow the Query screen to be
accessed through a link placed on the desktop - is there any way of doing
this, other than putting the whole 'Computer Management' section on the
desktop (as I have done)?

It would also be better if search results from the Query panel could be
presented in Windows Explorer type windows, so that more details of each
could be fitted on the screen and one could pan down the list instead of
having to go 'next' all the time.

With 'Search' being generally, a 'go make the tea' exercise, which misses
many of the files in any case, why is the Indexing Service so well hidden
and why isn't the Query The Indexing Service screen available in 'Search'?
Does MS like us to spend forever trying to find things?

Any recommendations for improving access and usability of this function -
and other general views on it - would be most welcome (to many XP users I
would imagine!).

Regards,

SteveH

The MSN Search, which you can add to Explorer and IExplorer, is a major
improvement. You can try it from http://search.msn.com/ or download it.

Frank

"Steve Hawkins" <steve.a.hawkins@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:%23ZjJjMY2FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> This appears to be a useful service that XP wants to hide from the casual
> user. Why?
>
> When one takes the trouble to go through the many levels necessary to open
> the query window, one finds that this has a similarly 'instant' search
> ability to Google Desktop - though not a very user friendly one -, with
> the additional bonus of being able to find many thousands of 'invisible'
> temporary internet files thought to have been regularly 'emptied' via the
> 'normal' channels!
>
> In the normal 'Search' 'For Files or Folders', one gets from the Start
> menu, the option to 'Use the indexing service' can be selected, but
> searching via the 'Search' function is still glacial by comparison with
> Google Desktop, and far slower than when one takes the trouble to find and
> use the 'Query The Indexing Service' window. So, why does 'Search' claim
> to be using the indexing service when it appears not to be?
>
> Just to spoil things, XP does not seem to allow the Query screen to be
> accessed through a link placed on the desktop - is there any way of doing
> this, other than putting the whole 'Computer Management' section on the
> desktop (as I have done)?
>
> It would also be better if search results from the Query panel could be
> presented in Windows Explorer type windows, so that more details of each
> could be fitted on the screen and one could pan down the list instead of
> having to go 'next' all the time.
>
> With 'Search' being generally, a 'go make the tea' exercise, which misses
> many of the files in any case, why is the Indexing Service so well hidden
> and why isn't the Query The Indexing Service screen available in 'Search'?
> Does MS like us to spend forever trying to find things?
>
> Any recommendations for improving access and usability of this function -
> and other general views on it - would be most welcome (to many XP users I
> would imagine!).
>
> Regards,
>
> SteveH
>

Thanks Frank,

Have downloaded msn search and now typing is slow as it indexes in the background. I now presumably
have three lots of indexing going on: Indexing Service; Msn Search; Google desktop search.

Do the first two use the same index and find the same stuff?
Should I turn one of them off/ can I tell MSN Search to use the catalogue already made by Indexing
Service?

I liked the Indexing Service for speed, just wanted easier access and better presentation of the
search results.

Regards,
SteveH

"FrankV" <FrankV@anonymous.address> wrote in message news:OraRg4Y2FHA.1140@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> The MSN Search, which you can add to Explorer and IExplorer, is a major improvement. You can try
> it from http://search.msn.com/ or download it.
>
> Frank
>
> "Steve Hawkins" <steve.a.hawkins@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:%23ZjJjMY2FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> This appears to be a useful service that XP wants to hide from the casual user. Why?
>>
>> When one takes the trouble to go through the many levels necessary to open the query window, one
>> finds that this has a similarly 'instant' search ability to Google Desktop - though not a very
>> user friendly one -, with the additional bonus of being able to find many thousands of
>> 'invisible' temporary internet files thought to have been regularly 'emptied' via the 'normal'
>> channels!
>>
>> In the normal 'Search' 'For Files or Folders', one gets from the Start menu, the option to 'Use
>> the indexing service' can be selected, but searching via the 'Search' function is still glacial
>> by comparison with Google Desktop, and far slower than when one takes the trouble to find and use
>> the 'Query The Indexing Service' window. So, why does 'Search' claim to be using the indexing
>> service when it appears not to be?
>>
>> Just to spoil things, XP does not seem to allow the Query screen to be accessed through a link
>> placed on the desktop - is there any way of doing this, other than putting the whole 'Computer
>> Management' section on the desktop (as I have done)?
>>
>> It would also be better if search results from the Query panel could be presented in Windows
>> Explorer type windows, so that more details of each could be fitted on the screen and one could
>> pan down the list instead of having to go 'next' all the time.
>>
>> With 'Search' being generally, a 'go make the tea' exercise, which misses many of the files in
>> any case, why is the Indexing Service so well hidden and why isn't the Query The Indexing Service
>> screen available in 'Search'? Does MS like us to spend forever trying to find things?
>>
>> Any recommendations for improving access and usability of this function - and other general views
>> on it - would be most welcome (to many XP users I would imagine!).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> SteveH
>>
>
>

It's slow the first time but once done you won't see much slowdown. I don't
use Google but there doesn't appear to be any problem with the other two. I
have no idea if they use the same index so I wouldn't try to turn one off.
Hopefully MS will have more details about this at some time. RightClick on
the button and then DeskTop Search Options and you see everything you can
modify. You should be able to run it only when not being used.

Frank

"Steve Hawkins" <steve.a.hawkins@ntl(nospam)world.com> wrote in message
news:OziODdw2FHA.744@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Frank,
>
> Have downloaded msn search and now typing is slow as it indexes in the
> background. I now presumably have three lots of indexing going on:
> Indexing Service; Msn Search; Google desktop search.
>
> Do the first two use the same index and find the same stuff?
> Should I turn one of them off/ can I tell MSN Search to use the catalogue
> already made by Indexing Service?
>
> I liked the Indexing Service for speed, just wanted easier access and
> better presentation of the search results.
>
> Regards,
> SteveH
>
> "FrankV" <FrankV@anonymous.address> wrote in message
> news:OraRg4Y2FHA.1140@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> The MSN Search, which you can add to Explorer and IExplorer, is a major
>> improvement. You can try it from http://search.msn.com/ or download it.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> "Steve Hawkins" <steve.a.hawkins@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23ZjJjMY2FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> This appears to be a useful service that XP wants to hide from the
>>> casual user. Why?
>>>
>>> When one takes the trouble to go through the many levels necessary to
>>> open the query window, one finds that this has a similarly 'instant'
>>> search ability to Google Desktop - though not a very user friendly
>>> one -, with the additional bonus of being able to find many thousands of
>>> 'invisible' temporary internet files thought to have been regularly
>>> 'emptied' via the 'normal' channels!
>>>
>>> In the normal 'Search' 'For Files or Folders', one gets from the Start
>>> menu, the option to 'Use the indexing service' can be selected, but
>>> searching via the 'Search' function is still glacial by comparison with
>>> Google Desktop, and far slower than when one takes the trouble to find
>>> and use the 'Query The Indexing Service' window. So, why does 'Search'
>>> claim to be using the indexing service when it appears not to be?
>>>
>>> Just to spoil things, XP does not seem to allow the Query screen to be
>>> accessed through a link placed on the desktop - is there any way of
>>> doing this, other than putting the whole 'Computer Management' section
>>> on the desktop (as I have done)?
>>>
>>> It would also be better if search results from the Query panel could be
>>> presented in Windows Explorer type windows, so that more details of each
>>> could be fitted on the screen and one could pan down the list instead of
>>> having to go 'next' all the time.
>>>
>>> With 'Search' being generally, a 'go make the tea' exercise, which
>>> misses many of the files in any case, why is the Indexing Service so
>>> well hidden and why isn't the Query The Indexing Service screen
>>> available in 'Search'? Does MS like us to spend forever trying to find
>>> things?
>>>
>>> Any recommendations for improving access and usability of this
>>> function - and other general views on it - would be most welcome (to
>>> many XP users I would imagine!).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> SteveH
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks again,

SteveH


"FrankV" <FrankV@anonymous.address> wrote in message news:eWnf$0w2FHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> It's slow the first time but once done you won't see much slowdown. I don't use Google but there
> doesn't appear to be any problem with the other two. I have no idea if they use the same index so
> I wouldn't try to turn one off. Hopefully MS will have more details about this at some time.
> RightClick on the button and then DeskTop Search Options and you see everything you can modify.
> You should be able to run it only when not being used.
>
> Frank
>
> "Steve Hawkins" <steve.a.hawkins@ntl(nospam)world.com> wrote in message
> news:OziODdw2FHA.744@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks Frank,
>>
>> Have downloaded msn search and now typing is slow as it indexes in the background. I now
>> presumably have three lots of indexing going on: Indexing Service; Msn Search; Google desktop
>> search.
>>
>> Do the first two use the same index and find the same stuff?
>> Should I turn one of them off/ can I tell MSN Search to use the catalogue already made by
>> Indexing Service?
>>
>> I liked the Indexing Service for speed, just wanted easier access and better presentation of the
>> search results.
>>
>> Regards,
>> SteveH
>>
>> "FrankV" <FrankV@anonymous.address> wrote in message
>> news:OraRg4Y2FHA.1140@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> The MSN Search, which you can add to Explorer and IExplorer, is a major improvement. You can try
>>> it from http://search.msn.com/ or download it.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> "Steve Hawkins" <steve.a.hawkins@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23ZjJjMY2FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> This appears to be a useful service that XP wants to hide from the casual user. Why?
>>>>
>>>> When one takes the trouble to go through the many levels necessary to open the query window,
>>>> one finds that this has a similarly 'instant' search ability to Google Desktop - though not a
>>>> very user friendly one -, with the additional bonus of being able to find many thousands of
>>>> 'invisible' temporary internet files thought to have been regularly 'emptied' via the 'normal'
>>>> channels!
>>>>
>>>> In the normal 'Search' 'For Files or Folders', one gets from the Start menu, the option to 'Use
>>>> the indexing service' can be selected, but searching via the 'Search' function is still glacial
>>>> by comparison with Google Desktop, and far slower than when one takes the trouble to find and
>>>> use the 'Query The Indexing Service' window. So, why does 'Search' claim to be using the
>>>> indexing service when it appears not to be?
>>>>
>>>> Just to spoil things, XP does not seem to allow the Query screen to be accessed through a link
>>>> placed on the desktop - is there any way of doing this, other than putting the whole 'Computer
>>>> Management' section on the desktop (as I have done)?
>>>>
>>>> It would also be better if search results from the Query panel could be presented in Windows
>>>> Explorer type windows, so that more details of each could be fitted on the screen and one could
>>>> pan down the list instead of having to go 'next' all the time.
>>>>
>>>> With 'Search' being generally, a 'go make the tea' exercise, which misses many of the files in
>>>> any case, why is the Indexing Service so well hidden and why isn't the Query The Indexing
>>>> Service screen available in 'Search'? Does MS like us to spend forever trying to find things?
>>>>
>>>> Any recommendations for improving access and usability of this function - and other general
>>>> views on it - would be most welcome (to many XP users I would imagine!).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> SteveH
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>