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Reassign Master Boot Record
Posted by i1zuhg3n1u5 on October 26th, 2005


This one is going to be fun to see the replies, but this is of highest
concern for me.
Norton GoBack... sucks. I had OS failure thus leading into its
reinstallation without the ability to uninstall GoBack. Therefore, the MBR on
my 250GB hard drive, nearly completely full of critical data to my student
work and my family, is rendering that hard drive's information inaccessible.
I need a method to reset the MBR, giving control back to me WITHOUT losing
but one bit of information on that drive. I was considering installing GoBack
and trying to tweak the program settings to recognize that drive as already
"GoBack Partitioned" and perhaps letting me see the drive's information
again, but I see that as risky and, therefore, will not do it without someone
who is knowledgable about this. I've emailed Symantec and they have failed to
reply so far, though I do not expect them to give me a legitimate solution.
Accepting this information as lost is not plausible to me because I know that
it is still there and I know there is a way to recover it; I just do not know
how to do so in this case.
I can pay for programs / tools to recover this drive, but not much;
therefore, I either need some way to do this for free or something that costs
less than $100.

Posted by Richard Urban on October 26th, 2005


Not so tough at all. I have recovered a few systems with the same problem.

From Symantec "Knowledge Base":

To remove the changes that GoBack made to the boot record
1.. Create a Windows Startup disk under Windows 98/Me. For more
information, see the document How to create a Windows Startup disk.
2.. Copy the Gb_prog.exe file to the Windows Startup disk. If there is not
enough room to copy Gb_prog.exe to the Windows Startup disk, then copy
Gb_prog.exe to a separate floppy disk.
3.. On the affected computer, insert the Windows Startup disk and then
start the computer. The computer has finished starting when you see an A:\>
prompt and a blinking cursor.
4.. Insert the disk that has the Gb_prog.exe file.
5.. Type gb_prog.exe /r and then press Enter.
The utility will attempt to repair the Master Boot Record. This may take
several hours to complete. You may also see a progress bar twice.
This utility should not be used with an external drive connected, such as
a USB drive. If the utility is run with an external USB device, it may take
several days to complete.
If the problem continues, repeat the steps using the gb_prog.exe /u
command.

This process does not entirely remove the Norton GoBack program. Use the
Add/Remove Programs utility in the Windows Control Panel to remove the rest
of the Norton GoBack program.

If the issue continues, the MBR on your computer may be protected. If this
is the case, you will need to contact your computer manufacturer for
assistance in recovering your computer.

I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the command
"fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and remove references
to GoBack.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BA628E31-C647-456B-AF14-C518D2D11A8F@microsoft.com...
> This one is going to be fun to see the replies, but this is of highest
> concern for me.
> Norton GoBack... sucks. I had OS failure thus leading into its
> reinstallation without the ability to uninstall GoBack. Therefore, the MBR
> on
> my 250GB hard drive, nearly completely full of critical data to my student
> work and my family, is rendering that hard drive's information
> inaccessible.
> I need a method to reset the MBR, giving control back to me WITHOUT losing
> but one bit of information on that drive. I was considering installing
> GoBack
> and trying to tweak the program settings to recognize that drive as
> already
> "GoBack Partitioned" and perhaps letting me see the drive's information
> again, but I see that as risky and, therefore, will not do it without
> someone
> who is knowledgable about this. I've emailed Symantec and they have failed
> to
> reply so far, though I do not expect them to give me a legitimate
> solution.
> Accepting this information as lost is not plausible to me because I know
> that
> it is still there and I know there is a way to recover it; I just do not
> know
> how to do so in this case.
> I can pay for programs / tools to recover this drive, but not much;
> therefore, I either need some way to do this for free or something that
> costs
> less than $100.



Posted by i1zuhg3n1u5 on October 26th, 2005


this isn't exactly my issue, Richard
Norton GoBack is no longer installed... Windows was reinstalled... wiped out
and reinstalled.
Therefore, there is no more GoBack on the system.
And a 98/ME Startup disc? This is XP... I don't have 98 or ME...
and copy the Gb_prog.exe program to the disc? From where?

"Richard Urban" wrote:

> Not so tough at all. I have recovered a few systems with the same problem.
>
> From Symantec "Knowledge Base":
>
> To remove the changes that GoBack made to the boot record
> 1.. Create a Windows Startup disk under Windows 98/Me. For more
> information, see the document How to create a Windows Startup disk.
> 2.. Copy the Gb_prog.exe file to the Windows Startup disk. If there is not
> enough room to copy Gb_prog.exe to the Windows Startup disk, then copy
> Gb_prog.exe to a separate floppy disk.
> 3.. On the affected computer, insert the Windows Startup disk and then
> start the computer. The computer has finished starting when you see an A:\>
> prompt and a blinking cursor.
> 4.. Insert the disk that has the Gb_prog.exe file.
> 5.. Type gb_prog.exe /r and then press Enter.
> The utility will attempt to repair the Master Boot Record. This may take
> several hours to complete. You may also see a progress bar twice.
> This utility should not be used with an external drive connected, such as
> a USB drive. If the utility is run with an external USB device, it may take
> several days to complete.
> If the problem continues, repeat the steps using the gb_prog.exe /u
> command.
>
> This process does not entirely remove the Norton GoBack program. Use the
> Add/Remove Programs utility in the Windows Control Panel to remove the rest
> of the Norton GoBack program.
>
> If the issue continues, the MBR on your computer may be protected. If this
> is the case, you will need to contact your computer manufacturer for
> assistance in recovering your computer.
>
> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the command
> "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and remove references
> to GoBack.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BA628E31-C647-456B-AF14-C518D2D11A8F@microsoft.com...
> > This one is going to be fun to see the replies, but this is of highest
> > concern for me.
> > Norton GoBack... sucks. I had OS failure thus leading into its
> > reinstallation without the ability to uninstall GoBack. Therefore, the MBR
> > on
> > my 250GB hard drive, nearly completely full of critical data to my student
> > work and my family, is rendering that hard drive's information
> > inaccessible.
> > I need a method to reset the MBR, giving control back to me WITHOUT losing
> > but one bit of information on that drive. I was considering installing
> > GoBack
> > and trying to tweak the program settings to recognize that drive as
> > already
> > "GoBack Partitioned" and perhaps letting me see the drive's information
> > again, but I see that as risky and, therefore, will not do it without
> > someone
> > who is knowledgable about this. I've emailed Symantec and they have failed
> > to
> > reply so far, though I do not expect them to give me a legitimate
> > solution.
> > Accepting this information as lost is not plausible to me because I know
> > that
> > it is still there and I know there is a way to recover it; I just do not
> > know
> > how to do so in this case.
> > I can pay for programs / tools to recover this drive, but not much;
> > therefore, I either need some way to do this for free or something that
> > costs
> > less than $100.

>
>
>

Posted by Allen L. on October 26th, 2005


In news64FB0EB-8074-4516-8555-D58318C178E3@microsoft.com,
i1zuhg3n1u5 <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> this isn't exactly my issue, Richard
> Norton GoBack is no longer installed... Windows was reinstalled...
> wiped out and reinstalled.
> Therefore, there is no more GoBack on the system.
> And a 98/ME Startup disc? This is XP... I don't have 98 or ME...
> and copy the Gb_prog.exe program to the disc? From where?
>>>

>> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>> snipped>>
>> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the
>> command "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and
>> remove references to GoBack.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User


Either use the WinXP disk and boot to repair, and use "fixmbr" or/and
"fixboot", or use the suggestion offered to use a Windows 98se setup floppy
to boot with and the command "fdisk /mbr".

....Allen


Posted by Grim Reaper on October 26th, 2005


Get a spare/new hard drive, replace the one in your system with it.
Install XP onto it.
Power down and connect the old drive in as a slave.
Power up and you should be able to copy everything you need off the old
drive.

In future, I recommend at least 3 partitions on a drive - XP on C, all your
data on D and backups on E.

HTH
__________________________________________________ ____
The Grim Reaper

"i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news64FB0EB-8074-4516-8555-D58318C178E3@microsoft.com...
> this isn't exactly my issue, Richard
> Norton GoBack is no longer installed... Windows was reinstalled... wiped
> out
> and reinstalled.
> Therefore, there is no more GoBack on the system.
> And a 98/ME Startup disc? This is XP... I don't have 98 or ME...
> and copy the Gb_prog.exe program to the disc? From where?
>
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>
>> Not so tough at all. I have recovered a few systems with the same
>> problem.
>>
>> From Symantec "Knowledge Base":
>>
>> To remove the changes that GoBack made to the boot record
>> 1.. Create a Windows Startup disk under Windows 98/Me. For more
>> information, see the document How to create a Windows Startup disk.
>> 2.. Copy the Gb_prog.exe file to the Windows Startup disk. If there is
>> not
>> enough room to copy Gb_prog.exe to the Windows Startup disk, then copy
>> Gb_prog.exe to a separate floppy disk.
>> 3.. On the affected computer, insert the Windows Startup disk and then
>> start the computer. The computer has finished starting when you see an
>> A:\>
>> prompt and a blinking cursor.
>> 4.. Insert the disk that has the Gb_prog.exe file.
>> 5.. Type gb_prog.exe /r and then press Enter.
>> The utility will attempt to repair the Master Boot Record. This may
>> take
>> several hours to complete. You may also see a progress bar twice.
>> This utility should not be used with an external drive connected, such
>> as
>> a USB drive. If the utility is run with an external USB device, it may
>> take
>> several days to complete.
>> If the problem continues, repeat the steps using the gb_prog.exe /u
>> command.
>>
>> This process does not entirely remove the Norton GoBack program. Use the
>> Add/Remove Programs utility in the Windows Control Panel to remove the
>> rest
>> of the Norton GoBack program.
>>
>> If the issue continues, the MBR on your computer may be protected. If
>> this
>> is the case, you will need to contact your computer manufacturer for
>> assistance in recovering your computer.
>>
>> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the command
>> "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and remove
>> references
>> to GoBack.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BA628E31-C647-456B-AF14-C518D2D11A8F@microsoft.com...
>> > This one is going to be fun to see the replies, but this is of highest
>> > concern for me.
>> > Norton GoBack... sucks. I had OS failure thus leading into its
>> > reinstallation without the ability to uninstall GoBack. Therefore, the
>> > MBR
>> > on
>> > my 250GB hard drive, nearly completely full of critical data to my
>> > student
>> > work and my family, is rendering that hard drive's information
>> > inaccessible.
>> > I need a method to reset the MBR, giving control back to me WITHOUT
>> > losing
>> > but one bit of information on that drive. I was considering installing
>> > GoBack
>> > and trying to tweak the program settings to recognize that drive as
>> > already
>> > "GoBack Partitioned" and perhaps letting me see the drive's information
>> > again, but I see that as risky and, therefore, will not do it without
>> > someone
>> > who is knowledgable about this. I've emailed Symantec and they have
>> > failed
>> > to
>> > reply so far, though I do not expect them to give me a legitimate
>> > solution.
>> > Accepting this information as lost is not plausible to me because I
>> > know
>> > that
>> > it is still there and I know there is a way to recover it; I just do
>> > not
>> > know
>> > how to do so in this case.
>> > I can pay for programs / tools to recover this drive, but not much;
>> > therefore, I either need some way to do this for free or something that
>> > costs
>> > less than $100.

>>
>>
>>



Posted by i1zuhg3n1u5 on October 26th, 2005


okay, this drive is simply a slave drive not setup for booting. this
procedure should still work without hurting or even touching my nonMBR data,
correct?

"Allen L." wrote:

> In news64FB0EB-8074-4516-8555-D58318C178E3@microsoft.com,
> i1zuhg3n1u5 <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > this isn't exactly my issue, Richard
> > Norton GoBack is no longer installed... Windows was reinstalled...
> > wiped out and reinstalled.
> > Therefore, there is no more GoBack on the system.
> > And a 98/ME Startup disc? This is XP... I don't have 98 or ME...
> > and copy the Gb_prog.exe program to the disc? From where?
> >>>
> >> "Richard Urban" wrote:
> >> snipped>>
> >> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the
> >> command "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and
> >> remove references to GoBack.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Richard Urban
> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

>
> Either use the WinXP disk and boot to repair, and use "fixmbr" or/and
> "fixboot", or use the suggestion offered to use a Windows 98se setup floppy
> to boot with and the command "fdisk /mbr".
>
> ....Allen
>
>
>

Posted by i1zuhg3n1u5 on October 26th, 2005


that's the setup I had... I had 3 partitions: 2 utilizing an OS each and 1 on
that other drive that somehow got caught up in GoBack

"Grim Reaper" wrote:

> Get a spare/new hard drive, replace the one in your system with it.
> Install XP onto it.
> Power down and connect the old drive in as a slave.
> Power up and you should be able to copy everything you need off the old
> drive.
>
> In future, I recommend at least 3 partitions on a drive - XP on C, all your
> data on D and backups on E.
>
> HTH
> __________________________________________________ ____
> The Grim Reaper
>
> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news64FB0EB-8074-4516-8555-D58318C178E3@microsoft.com...
> > this isn't exactly my issue, Richard
> > Norton GoBack is no longer installed... Windows was reinstalled... wiped
> > out
> > and reinstalled.
> > Therefore, there is no more GoBack on the system.
> > And a 98/ME Startup disc? This is XP... I don't have 98 or ME...
> > and copy the Gb_prog.exe program to the disc? From where?
> >
> > "Richard Urban" wrote:
> >
> >> Not so tough at all. I have recovered a few systems with the same
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> From Symantec "Knowledge Base":
> >>
> >> To remove the changes that GoBack made to the boot record
> >> 1.. Create a Windows Startup disk under Windows 98/Me. For more
> >> information, see the document How to create a Windows Startup disk.
> >> 2.. Copy the Gb_prog.exe file to the Windows Startup disk. If there is
> >> not
> >> enough room to copy Gb_prog.exe to the Windows Startup disk, then copy
> >> Gb_prog.exe to a separate floppy disk.
> >> 3.. On the affected computer, insert the Windows Startup disk and then
> >> start the computer. The computer has finished starting when you see an
> >> A:\>
> >> prompt and a blinking cursor.
> >> 4.. Insert the disk that has the Gb_prog.exe file.
> >> 5.. Type gb_prog.exe /r and then press Enter.
> >> The utility will attempt to repair the Master Boot Record. This may
> >> take
> >> several hours to complete. You may also see a progress bar twice.
> >> This utility should not be used with an external drive connected, such
> >> as
> >> a USB drive. If the utility is run with an external USB device, it may
> >> take
> >> several days to complete.
> >> If the problem continues, repeat the steps using the gb_prog.exe /u
> >> command.
> >>
> >> This process does not entirely remove the Norton GoBack program. Use the
> >> Add/Remove Programs utility in the Windows Control Panel to remove the
> >> rest
> >> of the Norton GoBack program.
> >>
> >> If the issue continues, the MBR on your computer may be protected. If
> >> this
> >> is the case, you will need to contact your computer manufacturer for
> >> assistance in recovering your computer.
> >>
> >> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the command
> >> "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and remove
> >> references
> >> to GoBack.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Richard Urban
> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> >> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
> >>
> >> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:BA628E31-C647-456B-AF14-C518D2D11A8F@microsoft.com...
> >> > This one is going to be fun to see the replies, but this is of highest
> >> > concern for me.
> >> > Norton GoBack... sucks. I had OS failure thus leading into its
> >> > reinstallation without the ability to uninstall GoBack. Therefore, the
> >> > MBR
> >> > on
> >> > my 250GB hard drive, nearly completely full of critical data to my
> >> > student
> >> > work and my family, is rendering that hard drive's information
> >> > inaccessible.
> >> > I need a method to reset the MBR, giving control back to me WITHOUT
> >> > losing
> >> > but one bit of information on that drive. I was considering installing
> >> > GoBack
> >> > and trying to tweak the program settings to recognize that drive as
> >> > already
> >> > "GoBack Partitioned" and perhaps letting me see the drive's information
> >> > again, but I see that as risky and, therefore, will not do it without
> >> > someone
> >> > who is knowledgable about this. I've emailed Symantec and they have
> >> > failed
> >> > to
> >> > reply so far, though I do not expect them to give me a legitimate
> >> > solution.
> >> > Accepting this information as lost is not plausible to me because I
> >> > know
> >> > that
> >> > it is still there and I know there is a way to recover it; I just do
> >> > not
> >> > know
> >> > how to do so in this case.
> >> > I can pay for programs / tools to recover this drive, but not much;
> >> > therefore, I either need some way to do this for free or something that
> >> > costs
> >> > less than $100.
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

Posted by Grim Reaper on October 26th, 2005


So you have 2 drives... the first with 2 partitions and the second with 1
partition?
If that's right, you have a problem with the MBR on the second (non-booting)
drive?!?
MBR or no MBR... you should still be able to read the data off a slave
drive.

(It's been a while since my hardware failed (touch wood!) - I might be a
rusty on the subject...)
_______________________________________
The Grim Reaper

"i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news14A8D83-193C-4C0F-8398-D27273C6FB7D@microsoft.com...
> that's the setup I had... I had 3 partitions: 2 utilizing an OS each and 1
> on
> that other drive that somehow got caught up in GoBack
>
> "Grim Reaper" wrote:
>
>> Get a spare/new hard drive, replace the one in your system with it.
>> Install XP onto it.
>> Power down and connect the old drive in as a slave.
>> Power up and you should be able to copy everything you need off the old
>> drive.
>>
>> In future, I recommend at least 3 partitions on a drive - XP on C, all
>> your
>> data on D and backups on E.
>>
>> HTH
>> __________________________________________________ ____
>> The Grim Reaper
>>
>> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news64FB0EB-8074-4516-8555-D58318C178E3@microsoft.com...
>> > this isn't exactly my issue, Richard
>> > Norton GoBack is no longer installed... Windows was reinstalled...
>> > wiped
>> > out
>> > and reinstalled.
>> > Therefore, there is no more GoBack on the system.
>> > And a 98/ME Startup disc? This is XP... I don't have 98 or ME...
>> > and copy the Gb_prog.exe program to the disc? From where?
>> >
>> > "Richard Urban" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Not so tough at all. I have recovered a few systems with the same
>> >> problem.
>> >>
>> >> From Symantec "Knowledge Base":
>> >>
>> >> To remove the changes that GoBack made to the boot record
>> >> 1.. Create a Windows Startup disk under Windows 98/Me. For more
>> >> information, see the document How to create a Windows Startup disk.
>> >> 2.. Copy the Gb_prog.exe file to the Windows Startup disk. If there
>> >> is
>> >> not
>> >> enough room to copy Gb_prog.exe to the Windows Startup disk, then copy
>> >> Gb_prog.exe to a separate floppy disk.
>> >> 3.. On the affected computer, insert the Windows Startup disk and
>> >> then
>> >> start the computer. The computer has finished starting when you see an
>> >> A:\>
>> >> prompt and a blinking cursor.
>> >> 4.. Insert the disk that has the Gb_prog.exe file.
>> >> 5.. Type gb_prog.exe /r and then press Enter.
>> >> The utility will attempt to repair the Master Boot Record. This may
>> >> take
>> >> several hours to complete. You may also see a progress bar twice.
>> >> This utility should not be used with an external drive connected,
>> >> such
>> >> as
>> >> a USB drive. If the utility is run with an external USB device, it may
>> >> take
>> >> several days to complete.
>> >> If the problem continues, repeat the steps using the gb_prog.exe /u
>> >> command.
>> >>
>> >> This process does not entirely remove the Norton GoBack program. Use
>> >> the
>> >> Add/Remove Programs utility in the Windows Control Panel to remove the
>> >> rest
>> >> of the Norton GoBack program.
>> >>
>> >> If the issue continues, the MBR on your computer may be protected. If
>> >> this
>> >> is the case, you will need to contact your computer manufacturer for
>> >> assistance in recovering your computer.
>> >>
>> >> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the
>> >> command
>> >> "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and remove
>> >> references
>> >> to GoBack.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Richard Urban
>> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> >>
>> >> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> >> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>> >>
>> >> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:BA628E31-C647-456B-AF14-C518D2D11A8F@microsoft.com...
>> >> > This one is going to be fun to see the replies, but this is of
>> >> > highest
>> >> > concern for me.
>> >> > Norton GoBack... sucks. I had OS failure thus leading into its
>> >> > reinstallation without the ability to uninstall GoBack. Therefore,
>> >> > the
>> >> > MBR
>> >> > on
>> >> > my 250GB hard drive, nearly completely full of critical data to my
>> >> > student
>> >> > work and my family, is rendering that hard drive's information
>> >> > inaccessible.
>> >> > I need a method to reset the MBR, giving control back to me WITHOUT
>> >> > losing
>> >> > but one bit of information on that drive. I was considering
>> >> > installing
>> >> > GoBack
>> >> > and trying to tweak the program settings to recognize that drive as
>> >> > already
>> >> > "GoBack Partitioned" and perhaps letting me see the drive's
>> >> > information
>> >> > again, but I see that as risky and, therefore, will not do it
>> >> > without
>> >> > someone
>> >> > who is knowledgable about this. I've emailed Symantec and they have
>> >> > failed
>> >> > to
>> >> > reply so far, though I do not expect them to give me a legitimate
>> >> > solution.
>> >> > Accepting this information as lost is not plausible to me because I
>> >> > know
>> >> > that
>> >> > it is still there and I know there is a way to recover it; I just do
>> >> > not
>> >> > know
>> >> > how to do so in this case.
>> >> > I can pay for programs / tools to recover this drive, but not much;
>> >> > therefore, I either need some way to do this for free or something
>> >> > that
>> >> > costs
>> >> > less than $100.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



Posted by i1zuhg3n1u5 on October 26th, 2005


It seems GoBack tains the master record in such a way that it will not allow
viewing anything without its stupid utility. It's extremely frustrating, as
well as confusing and annoying... I will never use GoBack ever again because
of this.

"Grim Reaper" wrote:

> So you have 2 drives... the first with 2 partitions and the second with 1
> partition?
> If that's right, you have a problem with the MBR on the second (non-booting)
> drive?!?
> MBR or no MBR... you should still be able to read the data off a slave
> drive.
>
> (It's been a while since my hardware failed (touch wood!) - I might be a
> rusty on the subject...)
> _______________________________________
> The Grim Reaper
>
> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news14A8D83-193C-4C0F-8398-D27273C6FB7D@microsoft.com...
> > that's the setup I had... I had 3 partitions: 2 utilizing an OS each and 1
> > on
> > that other drive that somehow got caught up in GoBack
> >
> > "Grim Reaper" wrote:
> >
> >> Get a spare/new hard drive, replace the one in your system with it.
> >> Install XP onto it.
> >> Power down and connect the old drive in as a slave.
> >> Power up and you should be able to copy everything you need off the old
> >> drive.
> >>
> >> In future, I recommend at least 3 partitions on a drive - XP on C, all
> >> your
> >> data on D and backups on E.
> >>
> >> HTH
> >> __________________________________________________ ____
> >> The Grim Reaper
> >>
> >> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news64FB0EB-8074-4516-8555-D58318C178E3@microsoft.com...
> >> > this isn't exactly my issue, Richard
> >> > Norton GoBack is no longer installed... Windows was reinstalled...
> >> > wiped
> >> > out
> >> > and reinstalled.
> >> > Therefore, there is no more GoBack on the system.
> >> > And a 98/ME Startup disc? This is XP... I don't have 98 or ME...
> >> > and copy the Gb_prog.exe program to the disc? From where?
> >> >
> >> > "Richard Urban" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Not so tough at all. I have recovered a few systems with the same
> >> >> problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> From Symantec "Knowledge Base":
> >> >>
> >> >> To remove the changes that GoBack made to the boot record
> >> >> 1.. Create a Windows Startup disk under Windows 98/Me. For more
> >> >> information, see the document How to create a Windows Startup disk.
> >> >> 2.. Copy the Gb_prog.exe file to the Windows Startup disk. If there
> >> >> is
> >> >> not
> >> >> enough room to copy Gb_prog.exe to the Windows Startup disk, then copy
> >> >> Gb_prog.exe to a separate floppy disk.
> >> >> 3.. On the affected computer, insert the Windows Startup disk and
> >> >> then
> >> >> start the computer. The computer has finished starting when you see an
> >> >> A:\>
> >> >> prompt and a blinking cursor.
> >> >> 4.. Insert the disk that has the Gb_prog.exe file.
> >> >> 5.. Type gb_prog.exe /r and then press Enter.
> >> >> The utility will attempt to repair the Master Boot Record. This may
> >> >> take
> >> >> several hours to complete. You may also see a progress bar twice.
> >> >> This utility should not be used with an external drive connected,
> >> >> such
> >> >> as
> >> >> a USB drive. If the utility is run with an external USB device, it may
> >> >> take
> >> >> several days to complete.
> >> >> If the problem continues, repeat the steps using the gb_prog.exe /u
> >> >> command.
> >> >>
> >> >> This process does not entirely remove the Norton GoBack program. Use
> >> >> the
> >> >> Add/Remove Programs utility in the Windows Control Panel to remove the
> >> >> rest
> >> >> of the Norton GoBack program.
> >> >>
> >> >> If the issue continues, the MBR on your computer may be protected. If
> >> >> this
> >> >> is the case, you will need to contact your computer manufacturer for
> >> >> assistance in recovering your computer.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the
> >> >> command
> >> >> "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and remove
> >> >> references
> >> >> to GoBack.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Richard Urban
> >> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> >> >>
> >> >> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> >> >> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
> >> >>
> >> >> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:BA628E31-C647-456B-AF14-C518D2D11A8F@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > This one is going to be fun to see the replies, but this is of
> >> >> > highest
> >> >> > concern for me.
> >> >> > Norton GoBack... sucks. I had OS failure thus leading into its
> >> >> > reinstallation without the ability to uninstall GoBack. Therefore,
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > MBR
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > my 250GB hard drive, nearly completely full of critical data to my
> >> >> > student
> >> >> > work and my family, is rendering that hard drive's information
> >> >> > inaccessible.
> >> >> > I need a method to reset the MBR, giving control back to me WITHOUT
> >> >> > losing
> >> >> > but one bit of information on that drive. I was considering
> >> >> > installing
> >> >> > GoBack
> >> >> > and trying to tweak the program settings to recognize that drive as
> >> >> > already
> >> >> > "GoBack Partitioned" and perhaps letting me see the drive's
> >> >> > information
> >> >> > again, but I see that as risky and, therefore, will not do it
> >> >> > without
> >> >> > someone
> >> >> > who is knowledgable about this. I've emailed Symantec and they have
> >> >> > failed
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > reply so far, though I do not expect them to give me a legitimate
> >> >> > solution.
> >> >> > Accepting this information as lost is not plausible to me because I
> >> >> > know
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > it is still there and I know there is a way to recover it; I just do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > know
> >> >> > how to do so in this case.
> >> >> > I can pay for programs / tools to recover this drive, but not much;
> >> >> > therefore, I either need some way to do this for free or something
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > costs
> >> >> > less than $100.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

Posted by Richard Urban on October 26th, 2005


To do any of the repairs I stated, the drive will have to be connected as a
primary master. It is best to not have any other drives connected when you
do this

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E7FA667D-4A18-496C-B9D9-91E00D634556@microsoft.com...
> okay, this drive is simply a slave drive not setup for booting. this
> procedure should still work without hurting or even touching my nonMBR
> data,
> correct?
>
> "Allen L." wrote:
>
>> In news64FB0EB-8074-4516-8555-D58318C178E3@microsoft.com,
>> i1zuhg3n1u5 <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>> > this isn't exactly my issue, Richard
>> > Norton GoBack is no longer installed... Windows was reinstalled...
>> > wiped out and reinstalled.
>> > Therefore, there is no more GoBack on the system.
>> > And a 98/ME Startup disc? This is XP... I don't have 98 or ME...
>> > and copy the Gb_prog.exe program to the disc? From where?
>> >>>
>> >> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>> >> snipped>>
>> >> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the
>> >> command "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and
>> >> remove references to GoBack.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Richard Urban
>> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

>>
>> Either use the WinXP disk and boot to repair, and use "fixmbr" or/and
>> "fixboot", or use the suggestion offered to use a Windows 98se setup
>> floppy
>> to boot with and the command "fdisk /mbr".
>>
>> ....Allen
>>
>>
>>



Posted by Allen L. on October 26th, 2005


In news66EFB1D-5800-4955-A07B-0B0E36CD2411@microsoft.com,
i1zuhg3n1u5 <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> It seems GoBack tains the master record in such a way that it will
> not allow viewing anything without its stupid utility. It's extremely
> frustrating, as well as confusing and annoying... I will never use
> GoBack ever again because of this.


I am totally confused...if you have two active hard drives, then you must
have a boot manager or don't you? When you boot, don't you have a choice of
which operating system to boot into? If so, you probably have corrupted the
MBR which will contain actually two booting pointing options to each
different systems. Does the above apply in your case?

....Allen


Posted by Richard Urban on October 26th, 2005


There are "definite" steps you must take when you are dual booting while
using GoBack. These are documented in various places. I suspect you did not
read the help section, the readme files or the on-line knowledgebase before
you set up your computer. Now you are stuck and have to do a lot of work to
recover what you had.

If I had the drive in question in my possession I would have no problem with
it, using what I first posted.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news66EFB1D-5800-4955-A07B-0B0E36CD2411@microsoft.com...
> It seems GoBack tains the master record in such a way that it will not
> allow
> viewing anything without its stupid utility. It's extremely frustrating,
> as
> well as confusing and annoying... I will never use GoBack ever again
> because
> of this.
>
> "Grim Reaper" wrote:
>
>> So you have 2 drives... the first with 2 partitions and the second with 1
>> partition?
>> If that's right, you have a problem with the MBR on the second
>> (non-booting)
>> drive?!?
>> MBR or no MBR... you should still be able to read the data off a slave
>> drive.
>>
>> (It's been a while since my hardware failed (touch wood!) - I might be a
>> rusty on the subject...)
>> _______________________________________
>> The Grim Reaper
>>
>> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news14A8D83-193C-4C0F-8398-D27273C6FB7D@microsoft.com...
>> > that's the setup I had... I had 3 partitions: 2 utilizing an OS each
>> > and 1
>> > on
>> > that other drive that somehow got caught up in GoBack
>> >
>> > "Grim Reaper" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Get a spare/new hard drive, replace the one in your system with it.
>> >> Install XP onto it.
>> >> Power down and connect the old drive in as a slave.
>> >> Power up and you should be able to copy everything you need off the
>> >> old
>> >> drive.
>> >>
>> >> In future, I recommend at least 3 partitions on a drive - XP on C, all
>> >> your
>> >> data on D and backups on E.
>> >>
>> >> HTH
>> >> __________________________________________________ ____
>> >> The Grim Reaper
>> >>
>> >> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news64FB0EB-8074-4516-8555-D58318C178E3@microsoft.com...
>> >> > this isn't exactly my issue, Richard
>> >> > Norton GoBack is no longer installed... Windows was reinstalled...
>> >> > wiped
>> >> > out
>> >> > and reinstalled.
>> >> > Therefore, there is no more GoBack on the system.
>> >> > And a 98/ME Startup disc? This is XP... I don't have 98 or ME...
>> >> > and copy the Gb_prog.exe program to the disc? From where?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Richard Urban" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Not so tough at all. I have recovered a few systems with the same
>> >> >> problem.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From Symantec "Knowledge Base":
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To remove the changes that GoBack made to the boot record
>> >> >> 1.. Create a Windows Startup disk under Windows 98/Me. For more
>> >> >> information, see the document How to create a Windows Startup disk.
>> >> >> 2.. Copy the Gb_prog.exe file to the Windows Startup disk. If
>> >> >> there
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> enough room to copy Gb_prog.exe to the Windows Startup disk, then
>> >> >> copy
>> >> >> Gb_prog.exe to a separate floppy disk.
>> >> >> 3.. On the affected computer, insert the Windows Startup disk and
>> >> >> then
>> >> >> start the computer. The computer has finished starting when you see
>> >> >> an
>> >> >> A:\>
>> >> >> prompt and a blinking cursor.
>> >> >> 4.. Insert the disk that has the Gb_prog.exe file.
>> >> >> 5.. Type gb_prog.exe /r and then press Enter.
>> >> >> The utility will attempt to repair the Master Boot Record. This
>> >> >> may
>> >> >> take
>> >> >> several hours to complete. You may also see a progress bar twice.
>> >> >> This utility should not be used with an external drive connected,
>> >> >> such
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> a USB drive. If the utility is run with an external USB device, it
>> >> >> may
>> >> >> take
>> >> >> several days to complete.
>> >> >> If the problem continues, repeat the steps using the gb_prog.exe
>> >> >> /u
>> >> >> command.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This process does not entirely remove the Norton GoBack program.
>> >> >> Use
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Add/Remove Programs utility in the Windows Control Panel to remove
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> rest
>> >> >> of the Norton GoBack program.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If the issue continues, the MBR on your computer may be protected.
>> >> >> If
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> is the case, you will need to contact your computer manufacturer
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> assistance in recovering your computer.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the
>> >> >> command
>> >> >> "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and remove
>> >> >> references
>> >> >> to GoBack.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Richard Urban
>> >> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> >> >> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:BA628E31-C647-456B-AF14-C518D2D11A8F@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > This one is going to be fun to see the replies, but this is of
>> >> >> > highest
>> >> >> > concern for me.
>> >> >> > Norton GoBack... sucks. I had OS failure thus leading into its
>> >> >> > reinstallation without the ability to uninstall GoBack.
>> >> >> > Therefore,
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > MBR
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > my 250GB hard drive, nearly completely full of critical data to
>> >> >> > my
>> >> >> > student
>> >> >> > work and my family, is rendering that hard drive's information
>> >> >> > inaccessible.
>> >> >> > I need a method to reset the MBR, giving control back to me
>> >> >> > WITHOUT
>> >> >> > losing
>> >> >> > but one bit of information on that drive. I was considering
>> >> >> > installing
>> >> >> > GoBack
>> >> >> > and trying to tweak the program settings to recognize that drive
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > already
>> >> >> > "GoBack Partitioned" and perhaps letting me see the drive's
>> >> >> > information
>> >> >> > again, but I see that as risky and, therefore, will not do it
>> >> >> > without
>> >> >> > someone
>> >> >> > who is knowledgable about this. I've emailed Symantec and they
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > failed
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > reply so far, though I do not expect them to give me a legitimate
>> >> >> > solution.
>> >> >> > Accepting this information as lost is not plausible to me because
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > know
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > it is still there and I know there is a way to recover it; I just
>> >> >> > do
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > know
>> >> >> > how to do so in this case.
>> >> >> > I can pay for programs / tools to recover this drive, but not
>> >> >> > much;
>> >> >> > therefore, I either need some way to do this for free or
>> >> >> > something
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > costs
>> >> >> > less than $100.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



Posted by Richard Urban on October 26th, 2005


Again, if you would just READ!

From the Symantec web site:

To force GoBack to be removed from the master boot record
1.. Turn off the computer.
2.. Start the computer, and then immediately press and hold down the
Ctrl+Alt+G keys.
A message will appear that gives you the option to force the removal of
GoBack from the master boot record. Note that some computers require that
you hold down the Ctrl+Alt keys while rapidly tapping the G key.
3.. Press F to force the removal of GoBack from the master boot record.
4.. Restart the computer.

Now, it is up to YOU to make sure that the drive is connected as the primary
MASTER before you try this.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news66EFB1D-5800-4955-A07B-0B0E36CD2411@microsoft.com...
> It seems GoBack tains the master record in such a way that it will not
> allow
> viewing anything without its stupid utility. It's extremely frustrating,
> as
> well as confusing and annoying... I will never use GoBack ever again
> because
> of this.
>
> "Grim Reaper" wrote:
>
>> So you have 2 drives... the first with 2 partitions and the second with 1
>> partition?
>> If that's right, you have a problem with the MBR on the second
>> (non-booting)
>> drive?!?
>> MBR or no MBR... you should still be able to read the data off a slave
>> drive.
>>
>> (It's been a while since my hardware failed (touch wood!) - I might be a
>> rusty on the subject...)
>> _______________________________________
>> The Grim Reaper
>>
>> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news14A8D83-193C-4C0F-8398-D27273C6FB7D@microsoft.com...
>> > that's the setup I had... I had 3 partitions: 2 utilizing an OS each
>> > and 1
>> > on
>> > that other drive that somehow got caught up in GoBack
>> >
>> > "Grim Reaper" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Get a spare/new hard drive, replace the one in your system with it.
>> >> Install XP onto it.
>> >> Power down and connect the old drive in as a slave.
>> >> Power up and you should be able to copy everything you need off the
>> >> old
>> >> drive.
>> >>
>> >> In future, I recommend at least 3 partitions on a drive - XP on C, all
>> >> your
>> >> data on D and backups on E.
>> >>
>> >> HTH
>> >> __________________________________________________ ____
>> >> The Grim Reaper
>> >>
>> >> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news64FB0EB-8074-4516-8555-D58318C178E3@microsoft.com...
>> >> > this isn't exactly my issue, Richard
>> >> > Norton GoBack is no longer installed... Windows was reinstalled...
>> >> > wiped
>> >> > out
>> >> > and reinstalled.
>> >> > Therefore, there is no more GoBack on the system.
>> >> > And a 98/ME Startup disc? This is XP... I don't have 98 or ME...
>> >> > and copy the Gb_prog.exe program to the disc? From where?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Richard Urban" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Not so tough at all. I have recovered a few systems with the same
>> >> >> problem.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From Symantec "Knowledge Base":
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To remove the changes that GoBack made to the boot record
>> >> >> 1.. Create a Windows Startup disk under Windows 98/Me. For more
>> >> >> information, see the document How to create a Windows Startup disk.
>> >> >> 2.. Copy the Gb_prog.exe file to the Windows Startup disk. If
>> >> >> there
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> enough room to copy Gb_prog.exe to the Windows Startup disk, then
>> >> >> copy
>> >> >> Gb_prog.exe to a separate floppy disk.
>> >> >> 3.. On the affected computer, insert the Windows Startup disk and
>> >> >> then
>> >> >> start the computer. The computer has finished starting when you see
>> >> >> an
>> >> >> A:\>
>> >> >> prompt and a blinking cursor.
>> >> >> 4.. Insert the disk that has the Gb_prog.exe file.
>> >> >> 5.. Type gb_prog.exe /r and then press Enter.
>> >> >> The utility will attempt to repair the Master Boot Record. This
>> >> >> may
>> >> >> take
>> >> >> several hours to complete. You may also see a progress bar twice.
>> >> >> This utility should not be used with an external drive connected,
>> >> >> such
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> a USB drive. If the utility is run with an external USB device, it
>> >> >> may
>> >> >> take
>> >> >> several days to complete.
>> >> >> If the problem continues, repeat the steps using the gb_prog.exe
>> >> >> /u
>> >> >> command.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This process does not entirely remove the Norton GoBack program.
>> >> >> Use
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Add/Remove Programs utility in the Windows Control Panel to remove
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> rest
>> >> >> of the Norton GoBack program.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If the issue continues, the MBR on your computer may be protected.
>> >> >> If
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> is the case, you will need to contact your computer manufacturer
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> assistance in recovering your computer.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the
>> >> >> command
>> >> >> "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and remove
>> >> >> references
>> >> >> to GoBack.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Richard Urban
>> >> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> >> >> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "i1zuhg3n1u5" <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:BA628E31-C647-456B-AF14-C518D2D11A8F@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > This one is going to be fun to see the replies, but this is of
>> >> >> > highest
>> >> >> > concern for me.
>> >> >> > Norton GoBack... sucks. I had OS failure thus leading into its
>> >> >> > reinstallation without the ability to uninstall GoBack.
>> >> >> > Therefore,
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > MBR
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > my 250GB hard drive, nearly completely full of critical data to
>> >> >> > my
>> >> >> > student
>> >> >> > work and my family, is rendering that hard drive's information
>> >> >> > inaccessible.
>> >> >> > I need a method to reset the MBR, giving control back to me
>> >> >> > WITHOUT
>> >> >> > losing
>> >> >> > but one bit of information on that drive. I was considering
>> >> >> > installing
>> >> >> > GoBack
>> >> >> > and trying to tweak the program settings to recognize that drive
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > already
>> >> >> > "GoBack Partitioned" and perhaps letting me see the drive's
>> >> >> > information
>> >> >> > again, but I see that as risky and, therefore, will not do it
>> >> >> > without
>> >> >> > someone
>> >> >> > who is knowledgable about this. I've emailed Symantec and they
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > failed
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > reply so far, though I do not expect them to give me a legitimate
>> >> >> > solution.
>> >> >> > Accepting this information as lost is not plausible to me because
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > know
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > it is still there and I know there is a way to recover it; I just
>> >> >> > do
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > know
>> >> >> > how to do so in this case.
>> >> >> > I can pay for programs / tools to recover this drive, but not
>> >> >> > much;
>> >> >> > therefore, I either need some way to do this for free or
>> >> >> > something
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > costs
>> >> >> > less than $100.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



Posted by Plato on October 26th, 2005


Richard Urban wrote:
>
> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the command
> "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and remove references
> to GoBack.


Jeeze I never had the nads to try fdisk /mbr on an xp pc.

Posted by Allen L. on October 26th, 2005


In news:435f97eb$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com,
Plato <|@|.|> typed:
> Richard Urban wrote:
>>
>> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the
>> command "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and
>> remove references to GoBack.

>
> Jeeze I never had the nads to try fdisk /mbr on an xp pc.


Guess you would, Plato, if the WinXP boot disk fixmbr & fixboot commands
didn't work and you have no other options!


Posted by Richard Urban on October 26th, 2005


All the MBR does is load primary code and then hand off the boot to the
operating system, whatever it may be. In the past I have used fdisk /mbr
successfully with OS/2, to rid the system of the OS/2 boot loader also. I
had my own boot loader I wanted to use.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
news:435f97eb$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com...
> Richard Urban wrote:
>>
>> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the command
>> "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and remove
>> references
>> to GoBack.

>
> Jeeze I never had the nads to try fdisk /mbr on an xp pc.
>



Posted by i1zuhg3n1u5 on October 26th, 2005


now... how am I supposed to do this to a volume that refuses to be assigned a
drive letter? if I make that the primary master with nothing else connected,
with BIOS default it as C: even though in its state now, windows disk
management refuses to assign?

"Allen L." wrote:

> In news64FB0EB-8074-4516-8555-D58318C178E3@microsoft.com,
> i1zuhg3n1u5 <i1zuhg3n1u5@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > this isn't exactly my issue, Richard
> > Norton GoBack is no longer installed... Windows was reinstalled...
> > wiped out and reinstalled.
> > Therefore, there is no more GoBack on the system.
> > And a 98/ME Startup disc? This is XP... I don't have 98 or ME...
> > and copy the Gb_prog.exe program to the disc? From where?
> >>>
> >> "Richard Urban" wrote:
> >> snipped>>
> >> I have also successfully used a Windows 98se setup floppy and the
> >> command "fdisk /mbr", which will repair the master boot record and
> >> remove references to GoBack.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Richard Urban
> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

>
> Either use the WinXP disk and boot to repair, and use "fixmbr" or/and
> "fixboot", or use the suggestion offered to use a Windows 98se setup floppy
> to boot with and the command "fdisk /mbr".
>
> ....Allen
>
>
>


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