- Router vs. Cable Modem and speed
- Posted by Daddio on January 16th, 2006
I recently upgraded from 10 to 30 mbps through my cable company and at the
same time purchased a 108 mbps router, but I am not getting the full benefit
from the speed upgrade.
I spoke with the cable company, we tested directly bypassing the router and
achieved the 30 mbps speed, so from I went to Netgear and changed some
settings, but that didn't work.
The point is, once the router is in place it limits the cable speed to the
10 mbps speed.
Question? Are there any specific XP Pro settings to consider and what about
firewalls such as McAfee?
Thanks for any direction on this matter.
Daddio
- Posted by Shenan Stanley on January 16th, 2006
Daddio wrote:
> I recently upgraded from 10 to 30 mbps through my cable company and
> at the same time purchased a 108 mbps router, but I am not getting
> the full benefit from the speed upgrade.
>
> I spoke with the cable company, we tested directly bypassing the
> router and achieved the 30 mbps speed, so from I went to Netgear
> and changed some settings, but that didn't work.
>
> The point is, once the router is in place it limits the cable speed
> to the 10 mbps speed.
>
> Question? Are there any specific XP Pro settings to consider and
> what about firewalls such as McAfee?
>
> Thanks for any direction on this matter.
Sounds like the WAN port is 10Mbps, no matter the wired/wireless internal
speed.
Interesting.
I'd look into getting a different router, personally. A little research and
less than $100 adds a lot of security and capability back to your network.
Or at least contact Netgear about the router you have.
As far as Windows XP settings while connected directly.. Make sure your
firewall (even if it is just the Windows XP firewall) is active, make sure
your patches are up to date and your antivirus software stays updated.
--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
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http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
- Posted by Steve N. on January 16th, 2006
Daddio wrote:
> I recently upgraded from 10 to 30 mbps through my cable company and at the
> same time purchased a 108 mbps router, but I am not getting the full benefit
> from the speed upgrade.
>
> I spoke with the cable company, we tested directly bypassing the router and
> achieved the 30 mbps speed, so from I went to Netgear and changed some
> settings, but that didn't work.
>
> The point is, once the router is in place it limits the cable speed to the
> 10 mbps speed.
>
> Question? Are there any specific XP Pro settings to consider and what about
> firewalls such as McAfee?
>
> Thanks for any direction on this matter.
>
> Daddio
Your router is apparently only 10mb capable. Get a faster router.
Steve N.
- Posted by GTS on January 16th, 2006
Most Ethernet hardware today uses an auto-negotiation/auto-sensing
mechanism to establish the highest compatible speed. This process on rare
occasions fails and they may fall back to 10 mbps. (See
http://www.scyld.com/NWay.html for more than you ever wanted to know about
this.)
The failure here could be either at the cable modem/router WAN port
interface, or more likely, at the PC NIC to LAN port side. Make sure you're
using good quality CAT 5 or better patch cords. You might see what happens
if you turn off autosensing on the NIC (in Device Manager) and try forcing a
100mbs speed there. If this fails, if at all possible, I would suggest
trying the connection with another PC (maybe a friends laptop) to try to
narrow where the failure lies. If that synchs at 100 then replacing your
NIC would be an economical solution.
--
"Daddio" <Daddio@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:81692EA5-C5DE-494B-8F2C-55A8C881F380@microsoft.com...
>I recently upgraded from 10 to 30 mbps through my cable company and at the
> same time purchased a 108 mbps router, but I am not getting the full
> benefit
> from the speed upgrade.
>
> I spoke with the cable company, we tested directly bypassing the router
> and
> achieved the 30 mbps speed, so from I went to Netgear and changed some
> settings, but that didn't work.
>
> The point is, once the router is in place it limits the cable speed to the
> 10 mbps speed.
>
> Question? Are there any specific XP Pro settings to consider and what
> about
> firewalls such as McAfee?
>
> Thanks for any direction on this matter.
>
> Daddio
- Posted by Mak on January 17th, 2006
Welcome to 1995.
Forcing two dissimilar network device to 100Mbit/sec (and full duplex for
that matter) - is asking for trouble.
In our days, if 100TX network device doesn't do Auto / Auto (speed /
duplex) - it is simply faulty.
"GTS" <x> wrote in message news:u6Ro8RrGGHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Most Ethernet hardware today uses an auto-negotiation/auto-sensing
> mechanism to establish the highest compatible speed. This process on rare
> occasions fails and they may fall back to 10 mbps. (See
> http://www.scyld.com/NWay.html for more than you ever wanted to know about
> this.)
>
> The failure here could be either at the cable modem/router WAN port
> interface, or more likely, at the PC NIC to LAN port side. Make sure
> you're using good quality CAT 5 or better patch cords. You might see what
> happens if you turn off autosensing on the NIC (in Device Manager) and try
> forcing a 100mbs speed there. If this fails, if at all possible, I would
> suggest trying the connection with another PC (maybe a friends laptop) to
> try to narrow where the failure lies. If that synchs at 100 then
> replacing your NIC would be an economical solution.
> --
>
> "Daddio" <Daddio@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:81692EA5-C5DE-494B-8F2C-55A8C881F380@microsoft.com...
>>I recently upgraded from 10 to 30 mbps through my cable company and at the
>> same time purchased a 108 mbps router, but I am not getting the full
>> benefit
>> from the speed upgrade.
>>
>> I spoke with the cable company, we tested directly bypassing the router
>> and
>> achieved the 30 mbps speed, so from I went to Netgear and changed some
>> settings, but that didn't work.
>>
>> The point is, once the router is in place it limits the cable speed to
>> the
>> 10 mbps speed.
>>
>> Question? Are there any specific XP Pro settings to consider and what
>> about
>> firewalls such as McAfee?
>>
>> Thanks for any direction on this matter.
>>
>> Daddio
>
>
- Posted by GTS on January 17th, 2006
Wrong. Although rare, auto-sensing can fail while a device is capable of
functioning compatibly in a manually set mode. There's no downside to the
OP giving it a try in this case.
--
"Mak" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OFSoQaxGGHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Welcome to 1995.
>
> Forcing two dissimilar network device to 100Mbit/sec (and full duplex for
> that matter) - is asking for trouble.
> In our days, if 100TX network device doesn't do Auto / Auto (speed /
> duplex) - it is simply faulty.
>
>
> "GTS" <x> wrote in message news:u6Ro8RrGGHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Most Ethernet hardware today uses an auto-negotiation/auto-sensing
>> mechanism to establish the highest compatible speed. This process on
>> rare occasions fails and they may fall back to 10 mbps. (See
>> http://www.scyld.com/NWay.html for more than you ever wanted to know
>> about this.)
>>
>> The failure here could be either at the cable modem/router WAN port
>> interface, or more likely, at the PC NIC to LAN port side. Make sure
>> you're using good quality CAT 5 or better patch cords. You might see
>> what happens if you turn off autosensing on the NIC (in Device Manager)
>> and try forcing a 100mbs speed there. If this fails, if at all possible,
>> I would suggest trying the connection with another PC (maybe a friends
>> laptop) to try to narrow where the failure lies. If that synchs at 100
>> then replacing your NIC would be an economical solution.
>> --
>>
>> "Daddio" <Daddio@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:81692EA5-C5DE-494B-8F2C-55A8C881F380@microsoft.com...
>>>I recently upgraded from 10 to 30 mbps through my cable company and at
>>>the
>>> same time purchased a 108 mbps router, but I am not getting the full
>>> benefit
>>> from the speed upgrade.
>>>
>>> I spoke with the cable company, we tested directly bypassing the router
>>> and
>>> achieved the 30 mbps speed, so from I went to Netgear and changed some
>>> settings, but that didn't work.
>>>
>>> The point is, once the router is in place it limits the cable speed to
>>> the
>>> 10 mbps speed.
>>>
>>> Question? Are there any specific XP Pro settings to consider and what
>>> about
>>> firewalls such as McAfee?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any direction on this matter.
>>>
>>> Daddio
>>
>>
>
>
- Posted by Mak on January 17th, 2006
The defined way of how 100TX device determine its speed in IEEE standard is
Auto. What device does when forced is outside of this standard, not defined
and left to device manufacture to decide. All devices _must_ handle Auto, if
they don't work in accordance with the standards - they are faulty.
Example of downside: forcing both sides to 100 / Full - one device _may_
disable FLP completely whether the other end will have it on - that device
will fall to 100 / half and you have the worth case scenario: duplex
mismatch. (and I'm not even talking here about forcing one side)
so.. if you still, in 2006, force your network devices - good luck to you.
"GTS" <x> wrote in message news:OgB7jlxGGHA.2948@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Wrong. Although rare, auto-sensing can fail while a device is capable of
> functioning compatibly in a manually set mode. There's no downside to the
> OP giving it a try in this case.
> --
>
> "Mak" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OFSoQaxGGHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Welcome to 1995.
>>
>> Forcing two dissimilar network device to 100Mbit/sec (and full duplex for
>> that matter) - is asking for trouble.
>> In our days, if 100TX network device doesn't do Auto / Auto (speed /
>> duplex) - it is simply faulty.
>>
>>
>> "GTS" <x> wrote in message news:u6Ro8RrGGHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> Most Ethernet hardware today uses an auto-negotiation/auto-sensing
>>> mechanism to establish the highest compatible speed. This process on
>>> rare occasions fails and they may fall back to 10 mbps. (See
>>> http://www.scyld.com/NWay.html for more than you ever wanted to know
>>> about this.)
>>>
>>> The failure here could be either at the cable modem/router WAN port
>>> interface, or more likely, at the PC NIC to LAN port side. Make sure
>>> you're using good quality CAT 5 or better patch cords. You might see
>>> what happens if you turn off autosensing on the NIC (in Device Manager)
>>> and try forcing a 100mbs speed there. If this fails, if at all
>>> possible, I would suggest trying the connection with another PC (maybe a
>>> friends laptop) to try to narrow where the failure lies. If that synchs
>>> at 100 then replacing your NIC would be an economical solution.
>>> --
>>>
>>> "Daddio" <Daddio@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:81692EA5-C5DE-494B-8F2C-55A8C881F380@microsoft.com...
>>>>I recently upgraded from 10 to 30 mbps through my cable company and at
>>>>the
>>>> same time purchased a 108 mbps router, but I am not getting the full
>>>> benefit
>>>> from the speed upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> I spoke with the cable company, we tested directly bypassing the router
>>>> and
>>>> achieved the 30 mbps speed, so from I went to Netgear and changed some
>>>> settings, but that didn't work.
>>>>
>>>> The point is, once the router is in place it limits the cable speed to
>>>> the
>>>> 10 mbps speed.
>>>>
>>>> Question? Are there any specific XP Pro settings to consider and what
>>>> about
>>>> firewalls such as McAfee?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any direction on this matter.
>>>>
>>>> Daddio
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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