Sometimes a tooltip that appears over a button on the taskbar that has more
text on it than it can display, appears *underneath* the taskbar, so I can't
read the tooltip (well, I ca read the top half). The same thing happens for
the system tray. At other times, it might occur that these tooltips just
don't work at all.

Does anyone know what causes this? A bug in Windows?

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It's caused by using the show desktop feature which does things in a hack about way (as Windows isn't designed to support this at it's core). Eventually the window manager gets confused about what window should be where in the Z order. It will continue getting confused and fix it by mistake after a while. It's been in at least 3 OSs and MS doesn't rate it as a high priority (doesn't stop you from using the computer).

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"Martijn Saly" <martijn@thany.org> wrote in message news:uW9kPSd7FHA.1864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Sometimes a tooltip that appears over a button on the taskbar that has more
> text on it than it can display, appears *underneath* the taskbar, so I can't
> read the tooltip (well, I ca read the top half). The same thing happens for
> the system tray. At other times, it might occur that these tooltips just
> don't work at all.
>
> Does anyone know what causes this? A bug in Windows?
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Martijn Saly

David Candy wrote:
> It's caused by using the show desktop feature which does things in a hack about way (as Windows isn't designed to support this at it's core). Eventually the window manager gets confused about what window should be where in the Z order. It will continue getting confused and fix it by mistake after a while. It's been in at least 3 OSs and MS doesn't rate it as a high priority (doesn't stop you from using the computer).
>

So I suppose it's true then, I mean the fact that MS only fixes security
issues and no real bugs... it's an easy fix to tell the window manager that
tooltip-class windows should ALWAYS be on top of all and everything. MS just
has to give tooltips a Z-order of 4294967296 and they're done.

So anyway, you're saying that as long as I don't use the Win+D hotkey, this
problem shouldn't happen?

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But tooltips, for some applications, need to not be at the very top, like a full screen app. Can't have tooltip poping up over the porn.

Just to get the taskbar to work requires Explorer to watch all programs and set their minimised location to off screen as the desktop uderlying Explorer's window is still Win 3's.

Try typing

regsvr32 ole32
regsvr32 /i shell32
regsvr32 /i shdocvw

which will repair a lot of drag drop functionality.
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"Martijn Saly" <martijn@thany.org> wrote in message news:eKKTkad7FHA.736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> David Candy wrote:
>> It's caused by using the show desktop feature which does things in a hack about way (as Windows isn't designed to support this at it's core). Eventually the window manager gets confused about what window should be where in the Z order. It will continue getting confused and fix it by mistake after a while. It's been in at least 3 OSs and MS doesn't rate it as a high priority (doesn't stop you from using the computer).
>>
>
> So I suppose it's true then, I mean the fact that MS only fixes security
> issues and no real bugs... it's an easy fix to tell the window manager that
> tooltip-class windows should ALWAYS be on top of all and everything. MS just
> has to give tooltips a Z-order of 4294967296 and they're done.
>
> So anyway, you're saying that as long as I don't use the Win+D hotkey, this
> problem shouldn't happen?
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Martijn Saly

David

Apparently, this feature has been/is being fixed in Vista..

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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
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It's caused by using the show desktop feature which does things in a hack
about way (as Windows isn't designed to support this at it's core).
Eventually the window manager gets confused about what window should be
where in the Z order. It will continue getting confused and fix it by
mistake after a while. It's been in at least 3 OSs and MS doesn't rate it as
a high priority (doesn't stop you from using the computer).

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"Martijn Saly" <martijn@thany.org> wrote in message
news:uW9kPSd7FHA.1864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Sometimes a tooltip that appears over a button on the taskbar that has
> more
> text on it than it can display, appears *underneath* the taskbar, so I
> can't
> read the tooltip (well, I ca read the top half). The same thing happens
> for
> the system tray. At other times, it might occur that these tooltips just
> don't work at all.
>
> Does anyone know what causes this? A bug in Windows?
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Martijn Saly