- What is the rule on Activation?
- Posted by Gary on March 6th, 2006
I am always adding and removing new harware. The last time I removed one
the my memory sticks that I was testing, I had to call the 800 number.
Do I have to do that all the time now?
Gary
- Posted by kurttrail on March 6th, 2006
Gary wrote:
Since Activation doesn't always work the way it is supposed to, the
answer to your question is "maybe."
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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
- Posted by Eric on March 6th, 2006
Read this page: http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/ProductActivation.htm.
A stick of RAM should carry enough 'votes' to make reactivation necessary,
but if you change the motherboard, you'll almost certainly have to reactivate.
Eric,
PC Buyer Beware!
http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/
"Gary" wrote:
- Posted by Jupiter Jones [MVP] on March 6th, 2006
Gary;
Here is a good reference on activation:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm
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- Posted by kurttrail on March 6th, 2006
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
Yeah. It explains how activation is supposed to work, but unfortunately
it doesn't always work that way.
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- Posted by NoStop on March 6th, 2006
On Monday 06 March 2006 03:22 am, Gary had this to say in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
Yes if you continue to use that toy operating system. Move on to a real
operating system like Linux and escape from the marketing clutches of
MickeyMouse.
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From a Wintard helping another Wintard with his Windoze Problem:
"You might also want to try one of the numerous EXCELLENT
registry cleaners, and perhaps a ram washer."
- Posted by Doug Kanter on March 6th, 2006
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What is the OP already has a full time career?
- Posted by Steve N. on March 6th, 2006
Eric wrote:
Hardware changed are cumulative regarding activation issues.
Steve N.
- Posted by NoStop on March 7th, 2006
On Monday 06 March 2006 11:42 am, Doug Kanter had this to say in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
Well with Linux he'll be free to devote more time to his career rather than
constantly downloading anti-virus updates, adware updates, spyware updates,
defragging his See Drive, cleaning his registry and washing his RAM.
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"You might also want to try one of the numerous EXCELLENT
registry cleaners, and perhaps a ram washer."
- Posted by paulmd@efn.org on March 7th, 2006
NoStop wrote:
I've tried to like Linux, but from what I can tell, KDE actually runs
SLOWER then Windows, on identical systems. And while you can do
interesting geek stuff, like load linux on an iMac, or perhaps even on
an iPod, and then use WINE to run Windows software (evil!). Linux isn't
really ready for prime time for the average user. It's better than it
was a few years ago, but then again, so is Windows.
- Posted by TonyK on March 8th, 2006
I'm sorry to raise this but I have read so much about this and I still don't know what is and is not allowed.
I was thinking of buying an oem of XP PRO from ebay and one seller of his product stated that a DELL or HP oem would definately NOT work. This contradicts, what I know to be the case from a friend who bought a DELL oem version.
Leaving aside the argument as to whether a change of MB automatically revokes (or not) the licence for oem versions: can someone explain why for example that DELL is any different from an un-named oem.
If we assume for the sake of argument that replacement MBs are allowed, it would seem that a replacement for DELL would be the same as for others if what I append is true.
From one of the apparently knowledgeable articles I have read there is a categorical statement that:
"""""
Product Activation does not scan the customer's hard drive, detect any personal information, or determine the make, model or manufacturer of the PC or its components.
"""""
If this is so, surely it is sufficient to say a replacement MB is a DELL MB.
I am not trying to resurrect old arguments. I would just like to know the grounds for rejection, unless it is that MB changes are not allowed under any circumstance which seems to be the view of at least one contributor to this NG.
Observations, or info based on actual experience would be most welcome.
Thanks.
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- Posted by Plato on March 8th, 2006
http://www.bootdisk.com/html.htm
- Posted by Ron Martell on March 8th, 2006
"TonyK" <zen18242@zen.co.uk> wrote:
The first two parts of your quoted statement are correct but the third
(determine make, model, manufacturer) is no longer correct. It used
to be, but then Microsoft developed the SLP (BIOS Lock) procedure for
use with OEM versions which does look at the computer's BIOS to
determine the name of the computer manufacturer/assembler.
The BIOS Locked OEM versions are self-activating provided the
motherboard BIOS is from the same manufacturer/assembler that produced
the CD. And for just over a year now these versions will no longer do
an Internet activation and telephone activation requests will be
declined.
Hope this explains the situation.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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- Posted by Steve N. on March 8th, 2006
Ron Martell wrote:
I think it would be a bit clearer to state that in the event of
attempting to use such a branded-OEM release on a system whose BIOS is
not from that specific brand OEM these versions will no longer do
an Internet activation and telephone activation requests will be
declined.
Steve N.
- Posted by kurttrail on March 8th, 2006
Steve N. wrote:
Never been declined when I've tried it.
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- Posted by TonyK on March 9th, 2006
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
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There is so much stated about what MS will and will not allow.
FACT: This is in UK. Around last July my mate bought a XP PRO DELL OEM CD
(SP1) in ebay with Product Key but no COA.
He installed in his existing (non-DELL) computer, made the usual phone call
(no mention of DELL), provided the Product Key No. and was given another
number by the MS person. He followed instructions with no problems, promptly
installed SP2 and has been OK for all this time. He has been asked to verify
(twice I think) and he apparently just says he bought the product. There has
NEVER been any mention of DELL and I'm bound to say that he is confident
there will never be a problem. This guy I would describe as reasonably
knowledgeabe about computers but not in the same class as most of the
contributors to this NG.
So far as he is concerned I would not encounter any problem if I went ahead
and bought a DELL OEM CD provided there was a valid Product Key.
This seems to bear out what Kurt especially is propounding and contradicts
Carey's oft-stated views.
QUESTION: Am I safe to buy a DELL OEM so long as the Product Key is valid?
Also, if my mate changed the MB but kept to the same brand, would ANY
question be asked by MS?
Thanks
- Posted by Alias on March 9th, 2006
TonyK wrote:
Dell used to ship generic OEMs that weren't bound to the MB. That's
probably what your mate, luckily, received.
Alias
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- Posted by Carey Frisch [MVP] on March 9th, 2006
QUESTION: Am I safe to buy a DELL OEM so long as the Product Key is valid?
ANSWER: Only if it is to installed on a Dell computer.
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"TonyK" wrote: