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Win95 to WinXP?
Posted by Don Holmes on September 28th, 2005


Does Microsoft allow a direct upgrade from Win95 to WinXP under its' license
program? Or do you have to upgrade first to say, Win98, and then up to XP?
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Posted by Malke on September 28th, 2005


Don Holmes wrote:

> Does Microsoft allow a direct upgrade from Win95 to WinXP under its'
> license
> program? Or do you have to upgrade first to say, Win98, and then up
> to XP?


You could go directly, but I really doubt that any computer that was
designed to run Win95 will be adequate for XP. Here are links for
qualifying media as well as the Upgrade Advisor:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...ng/matrix.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...ng/advisor.asp

Personally, I wouldn't put XP on a machine that had less than a PIII 500
with 256MB of RAM. You need a hard drive with a minimum of 10-12GB also
(and that's pretty small - XPSP2 takes up ~2.5GB all by itself).

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Posted by kurttrail on September 28th, 2005


Don Holmes wrote:
> Does Microsoft allow a direct upgrade from Win95 to WinXP under its'
> license program?


Nope. W95 can only get a WXP upgrade disk to perform a clean install.

> Or do you have to upgrade first to say, Win98, and
> then up to XP?


I wouldn't recommend it, but it is in the realm of possibility.

Is the computer you are planinng to do this on built for W95?

If yes, then you should seriously reconsider doing two upgrades on it
back to back.

Do you know if all the hardware has XP drivers?

If no, then you definitely shouldn't go ahead trying to upgrade to XP.

Are you ever planning on getting computer equipment designed and
manufactutered in this century?

Then you might want to consider waiting until you have such equipment.

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Posted by kurttrail on September 28th, 2005


Malke wrote:
> Don Holmes wrote:
>
>> Does Microsoft allow a direct upgrade from Win95 to WinXP under its'
>> license
>> program? Or do you have to upgrade first to say, Win98, and then up
>> to XP?

>
> You could go directly, but I really doubt that any computer that was
> designed to run Win95 will be adequate for XP. Here are links for
> qualifying media as well as the Upgrade Advisor:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...ng/matrix.mspx
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...ng/advisor.asp
>
> Personally, I wouldn't put XP on a machine that had less than a PIII
> 500 with 256MB of RAM. You need a hard drive with a minimum of
> 10-12GB also (and that's pretty small - XPSP2 takes up ~2.5GB all by
> itself).
>
> Malke


W95 is only qualifying media to do a CLEAN install of XP. W95 is NOT
upgradeable directly to XP.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...ng/matrix.mspx

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Posted by Gerry Cornell on September 28th, 2005


If the machine was built for Windows 95 then the BIOS could well cause
problems trying to run Windows XP!


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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:u8A9mWExFHA.2008@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Don Holmes wrote:
>> Does Microsoft allow a direct upgrade from Win95 to WinXP under its'
>> license program?

>
> Nope. W95 can only get a WXP upgrade disk to perform a clean install.
>
>> Or do you have to upgrade first to say, Win98, and
>> then up to XP?

>
> I wouldn't recommend it, but it is in the realm of possibility.
>
> Is the computer you are planinng to do this on built for W95?
>
> If yes, then you should seriously reconsider doing two upgrades on it
> back to back.
>
> Do you know if all the hardware has XP drivers?
>
> If no, then you definitely shouldn't go ahead trying to upgrade to XP.
>
> Are you ever planning on getting computer equipment designed and
> manufactutered in this century?
>
> Then you might want to consider waiting until you have such equipment.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
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>


Posted by Bob I on September 28th, 2005


Windows 95 is not considered to be a qualifying operating system for
Upgrade.

Don Holmes wrote:

> Does Microsoft allow a direct upgrade from Win95 to WinXP under its' license
> program? Or do you have to upgrade first to say, Win98, and then up to XP?


Posted by kurttrail on September 28th, 2005


Bob I wrote:
> Windows 95 is not considered to be a qualifying operating system for
> Upgrade.


Though it is qualifying media to do a clean install with an upgrade XP
CD.

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Posted by Tim Slattery on September 28th, 2005


Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Windows 95 is not considered to be a qualifying operating system for
>Upgrade.


Yes it is.

WinXP will not upgrade a Win95 system, but the WinXP Upgrade CD will
accept a Win95 installation disk as proof of a qualifying system when
installing XP.

So you can wipe your Win95 system's disk, boot from the WinXP Upgrade
disk and install, inserting the Win95CD when asked for proof of a
qualifying product. Of course, that assumes that the machine that has
been running Win95 will be happy running WinXP, which is not at all a
sure thing.

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Posted by Bob I on September 28th, 2005


Perhaps you missed this little gem?
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...ng/matrix.mspx

Tim Slattery wrote:
> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Windows 95 is not considered to be a qualifying operating system for
>>Upgrade.

>
>
> Yes it is.
>
> WinXP will not upgrade a Win95 system, but the WinXP Upgrade CD will
> accept a Win95 installation disk as proof of a qualifying system when
> installing XP.
>
> So you can wipe your Win95 system's disk, boot from the WinXP Upgrade
> disk and install, inserting the Win95CD when asked for proof of a
> qualifying product. Of course, that assumes that the machine that has
> been running Win95 will be happy running WinXP, which is not at all a
> sure thing.
>


Posted by Steve N. on September 28th, 2005


Bob I wrote:

> Perhaps you missed this little gem?
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...ng/matrix.mspx


It specifically addresses the ability to do an in-place upgrade and says
nothing about qualifying media for performing a clean install using an
XP upgrade CD.

Steve

>
> Tim Slattery wrote:
>
>> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Windows 95 is not considered to be a qualifying operating system for
>>> Upgrade.

>>
>>
>>
>> Yes it is.
>>
>> WinXP will not upgrade a Win95 system, but the WinXP Upgrade CD will
>> accept a Win95 installation disk as proof of a qualifying system when
>> installing XP.
>>
>> So you can wipe your Win95 system's disk, boot from the WinXP Upgrade
>> disk and install, inserting the Win95CD when asked for proof of a
>> qualifying product. Of course, that assumes that the machine that has
>> been running Win95 will be happy running WinXP, which is not at all a
>> sure thing.
>>

>

Posted by Michael Stevens on September 29th, 2005


In news:EF90494B-28EF-45B9-97A9-2EA92D99C4E9@microsoft.com,
Don Holmes <DonHolmes@discussions.microsoft.com> replied with a ;-)
> Does Microsoft allow a direct upgrade from Win95 to WinXP under its'
> license program? Or do you have to upgrade first to say, Win98, and
> then up to XP?


Can be used as a qualifier for a clean install, but not to upgrade a
computer from 95 to XP.
As a side note, any computer that originally "shipped" with 95 would be TOO
old for XP.
How to clean install XP.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

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Posted by Bob I on September 29th, 2005


Ok, more explicitly
http://www.microsoft.com/products/in...e-55ca8ec542d5

Steve N. wrote:

> Bob I wrote:
>
>> Perhaps you missed this little gem?
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...ng/matrix.mspx

>
>
> It specifically addresses the ability to do an in-place upgrade and says
> nothing about qualifying media for performing a clean install using an
> XP upgrade CD.
>
> Steve
>
>>
>> Tim Slattery wrote:
>>
>>> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Windows 95 is not considered to be a qualifying operating system for
>>>> Upgrade.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes it is.
>>>
>>> WinXP will not upgrade a Win95 system, but the WinXP Upgrade CD will
>>> accept a Win95 installation disk as proof of a qualifying system when
>>> installing XP.
>>>
>>> So you can wipe your Win95 system's disk, boot from the WinXP Upgrade
>>> disk and install, inserting the Win95CD when asked for proof of a
>>> qualifying product. Of course, that assumes that the machine that has
>>> been running Win95 will be happy running WinXP, which is not at all a
>>> sure thing.
>>>

>>


Posted by Bob I on September 29th, 2005


But it does not constitute a qualified licensed upgrade, ego it can
physically be done but it's not legit.
http://www.microsoft.com/products/in...e-55ca8ec542d5


Michael Stevens wrote:

> In news:EF90494B-28EF-45B9-97A9-2EA92D99C4E9@microsoft.com,
> Don Holmes <DonHolmes@discussions.microsoft.com> replied with a ;-)
>
>>Does Microsoft allow a direct upgrade from Win95 to WinXP under its'
>>license program? Or do you have to upgrade first to say, Win98, and
>>then up to XP?

>
>
> Can be used as a qualifier for a clean install, but not to upgrade a
> computer from 95 to XP.
> As a side note, any computer that originally "shipped" with 95 would be TOO
> old for XP.
> How to clean install XP.
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
>


Posted by The Cuddly Curmudgeon on September 29th, 2005


Gerry Cornell wrote:
> If the machine was built for Windows 95 then the BIOS could well cause
> problems trying to run Windows XP!
>
>
> --
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
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My general rule of thumb is to ignore posts where the "help" portion is
smaller than the freakin' sig.

Posted by Michael Stevens on September 30th, 2005


In news:Oq2OFeSxFHA.2848@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> replied with a ;-)
> But it does not constitute a qualified licensed upgrade, ego it can
> physically be done but it's not legit.
> http://www.microsoft.com/products/in...e-55ca8ec542d5
>
>


So? Microsoft accepts it as a qualifier for a clean install but blocks it
for an upgrade. It was their decision to allow it, I believe they would have
blocked it if they had wanted to.

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> Michael Stevens wrote:
>
>> In news:EF90494B-28EF-45B9-97A9-2EA92D99C4E9@microsoft.com,
>> Don Holmes <DonHolmes@discussions.microsoft.com> replied with a ;-)
>>
>>> Does Microsoft allow a direct upgrade from Win95 to WinXP under its'
>>> license program? Or do you have to upgrade first to say, Win98, and
>>> then up to XP?

>>
>>
>> Can be used as a qualifier for a clean install, but not to upgrade a
>> computer from 95 to XP.
>> As a side note, any computer that originally "shipped" with 95 would
>> be TOO old for XP.
>> How to clean install XP.
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html




Posted by Tim Slattery on September 30th, 2005


"Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote:

>In news:Oq2OFeSxFHA.2848@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
>Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> replied with a ;-)
>> But it does not constitute a qualified licensed upgrade, ego it can
>> physically be done but it's not legit.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/products/in...e-55ca8ec542d5
>>
>>

>
>So? Microsoft accepts it as a qualifier for a clean install but blocks it
>for an upgrade. It was their decision to allow it, I believe they would have
>blocked it if they had wanted to.


I hunted around Microsoft's site yesterday, looking for backing that
XP Upgrade will accept a Win95 CD as proof of a qualifying system. I
found the page that talks about "in place" activation, and that says
that XP Upgrade will not upgrade a Win95 system. No surprise there.

I also found this page:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...ng/matrix.mspx which
would seem to say what defines a "qualifying system". It says NO for
Win95.

I suppose that page could have been put together by a clueless person
who didn't realize that a Win 95 CD would be accepted as a "qualifying
system" even though that system can't be upgraded in place. Or could
Microsoft have changed their policy?

In any case, it's always been try that any machine that's been running
Win95 is probably old enough that it won't be happy trying to run XP.

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Posted by David Candy on September 30th, 2005


The official list is on the outside of the box if you have one handy.

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"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message news:focqj19ipctvvn053658ntsn889kb8a85v@4ax.com...
> "Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote:
>
>>In news:Oq2OFeSxFHA.2848@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
>>Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> replied with a ;-)
>>> But it does not constitute a qualified licensed upgrade, ego it can
>>> physically be done but it's not legit.
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/products/in...e-55ca8ec542d5
>>>
>>>

>>
>>So? Microsoft accepts it as a qualifier for a clean install but blocks it
>>for an upgrade. It was their decision to allow it, I believe they would have
>>blocked it if they had wanted to.

>
> I hunted around Microsoft's site yesterday, looking for backing that
> XP Upgrade will accept a Win95 CD as proof of a qualifying system. I
> found the page that talks about "in place" activation, and that says
> that XP Upgrade will not upgrade a Win95 system. No surprise there.
>
> I also found this page:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...ng/matrix.mspx which
> would seem to say what defines a "qualifying system". It says NO for
> Win95.
>
> I suppose that page could have been put together by a clueless person
> who didn't realize that a Win 95 CD would be accepted as a "qualifying
> system" even though that system can't be upgraded in place. Or could
> Microsoft have changed their policy?
>
> In any case, it's always been try that any machine that's been running
> Win95 is probably old enough that it won't be happy trying to run XP.
>
> --
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> MS MVP(DTS)
> Slattery_T@bls.gov

Posted by kurttrail on September 30th, 2005


Tim Slattery wrote:
> "Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote:
>
>> In news:Oq2OFeSxFHA.2848@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
>> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> replied with a ;-)
>>> But it does not constitute a qualified licensed upgrade, ego it can
>>> physically be done but it's not legit.
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/products/in...e-55ca8ec542d5
>>>
>>>

>>
>> So? Microsoft accepts it as a qualifier for a clean install but
>> blocks it for an upgrade. It was their decision to allow it, I
>> believe they would have blocked it if they had wanted to.

>
> I hunted around Microsoft's site yesterday, looking for backing that
> XP Upgrade will accept a Win95 CD as proof of a qualifying system. I
> found the page that talks about "in place" activation, and that says
> that XP Upgrade will not upgrade a Win95 system. No surprise there.
>
> I also found this page:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...ng/matrix.mspx which
> would seem to say what defines a "qualifying system". It says NO for
> Win95.
>
> I suppose that page could have been put together by a clueless person
> who didn't realize that a Win 95 CD would be accepted as a "qualifying
> system" even though that system can't be upgraded in place. Or could
> Microsoft have changed their policy?
>
> In any case, it's always been try that any machine that's been running
> Win95 is probably old enough that it won't be happy trying to run XP.


Tim, the matrix talks about an inplace upgrade.

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...5a95173f648120

Don't accept my word, or Mike's, perhaps Alex's word would suffice. MS
use to have a technet article that explained it, but it has seemed to
have disappeared.

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Posted by Tim Slattery on September 30th, 2005


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote:


>Tim, the matrix talks about an inplace upgrade.


Makes sense, but that's not what the page says. I think MS fumbled
this one!

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Posted by Steve N. on September 30th, 2005


The Cuddly Curmudgeon wrote:

> Gerry Cornell wrote:
>
>>If the machine was built for Windows 95 then the BIOS could well cause
>>problems trying to run Windows XP!
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
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>
>
> My general rule of thumb is to ignore posts where the "help" portion is
> smaller than the freakin' sig.
>


But you didn't

Steve


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