- Holding on to a dynamic IP address
- Posted by Sm704 on February 6th, 2005
I have have a cable internet connection, and the subscription I have is
only for a dynamic IP address. I have a hardware router for my network,
and I was wondering if using the router is a good way to "hold on" to a
dynamic IP address so that it can be like a static IP address? I've
noticed that my router has had the same WAN address provided by my
cable provider for over two months since I rebooted the router.
Using a router seems like a sure way to keep a dynamic address, since
the router is always on. The only downsides I can think of are cable or
power outages...
- Posted by $Bill on February 6th, 2005
Sm704 wrote:
If you have a router set up properly why would you need a static IP address ?
Your computers inside the router are all on local IP addresses using DHCP
from the router, so there is no need for a static IP unless you are trying
to run a server.
- Posted by Sm704 on February 6th, 2005
$Bill wrote:
That's exactly why I am trying to do, run a web server... I don't want
to subscribe to the service that offers static IP addresses...
- Posted by James Knott on February 6th, 2005
Sm704 wrote:
You "own" an IP address for the duration of the DHCP lease. With my ISP,
the lease period is (IIRC) seven days. As long as you continue to renew
the lease, your IP shouldn't change (yes, I know of some stupid ISPs that
force a change). My IP is virtually static, unchanging, unless some
physical change, requires a new IP. Also, with some ISPs, including mine,
the host name is consistent, so even if the IP changes, the host name will
still give the current address..
- Posted by James Knott on February 6th, 2005
$Bill wrote:
He might want to access his system from elsewhere. It then helps, to know
the IP.
- Posted by Ron Hunter on February 6th, 2005
Sm704 wrote:
I leave my system on all the time, so I seldom see a new IP. Most
dynamic IPs are reassigned only if you allow your lease to lapse for
quite some time. Keeping the modem and router on should prevent this
from happening only if the router requests a new lease. I believe that
is done by the computer.
--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net
- Posted by Ron Hunter on February 6th, 2005
$Bill wrote:
FTP access, or VPN.
--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net
- Posted by Ron Hunter on February 6th, 2005
Sm704 wrote:
running servers....
--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net
- Posted by $Bill on February 6th, 2005
Ron Hunter wrote:
There are ways to handle that with a dynamic address as previously
reported. If you have a website on the internet, you can also use
that to supply access to the current dynamic IP address in addition
to the method stated.
- Posted by $Bill on February 6th, 2005
James Knott wrote:
Can still be done with a dynamic IP. Also you may have trouble running
a server depending on what your ISP will allow (as already stated).
- Posted by Sm704 on February 7th, 2005
Ron Hunter wrote:
I'm only planning on running a web server that serves only html
documents. I wont be serving any large files at all. I don't see why my
ISP would disapprove of that...
- Posted by Giles Harney on February 7th, 2005
"Sm704" <sm7040@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107740108.789211.68820@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
doesnt matter why, only if they do or not.
- Posted by James Knott on February 7th, 2005
Sm704 wrote:
Many ISPs provide web space.
- Posted by Ron Hunter on February 7th, 2005
Sm704 wrote:
begin to complain about slow access, and then the cable company will
become interested. If usage is minimal, they probably will neither
notice, nor care.
--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net
- Posted by Tom Stiller on February 7th, 2005
In article <1107740108.789211.68820@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>,
"Sm704" <sm7040@hotmail.com> wrote:
Read your terms of service agreement. If it says that you may not run a
server, then the ISP disapproves and it doesn't really matter what you
think.
--
Tom Stiller
PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3
7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
- Posted by $Bill on February 8th, 2005
Ron Hunter wrote:
I assume he's capped at 256Kb or 512Kb, so it really wouldn't matter to
his neighbors now - would it ?
- Posted by NormanM on February 8th, 2005
In article <1107685771.425387.135780@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>, Sm704
says...
I hate to rain on your parade, but...your posting IP address, "NNTP-Posting-
Host: 66.189.0.235", says, "Charter Communications". Going to their web site
and poking around:
http://www.charter.com/site/rules.aspx#resAUP
ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY =3F RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS
1. USE
....
Customer may set up one (1) web page per primary e-mail account for personal
use using the Service, but Customer may not establish a web page using a
server located at Customer=3Fs home. Customer will not use, nor allow others
to use, Customer=3Fs home computer as a web server, FTP server, file server or
game server or to run any other server applications.
....
You will be in violation of your ISP's Acceptable Use Policy (AUP). What you
want to do is technically feasible. But, unlike the SBC, or Comcast AUPs (I
have checked both), Charter states "no servers" in most unequivocal terms.
Should Charter decide to "make an example of you", their wording leaves you
absolutely no wiggle room.
I will not tell you, "don't do it"; but I will tell you, "don't bitch about
it if they "TOSs" (terminate your account under the Terms Of Service) you
for violating the AUP".
--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
- Posted by James Knott on February 8th, 2005
$Bill wrote:
Cable internet systems are designed to give reasonable response, with
typical home usage. Running a busy server means someone is using more than
others, of a shared resource.
- Posted by $Bill on February 8th, 2005
James Knott wrote:
The man is allowed 256Kb (for example) upload bandwidth - why should
that bother any his neighbors if he's using most of it ?
He could use that much upload during heavy dowload usage just in
request/reponse blocks and the like - not including any content.
His server can't be *busy* by definition - he doesn't have the bandwidth.
- Posted by Ron Hunter on February 8th, 2005
$Bill wrote:
Sorry, but common practice is to load something like 20 times the number
of users who could, theoretically, use their bandwidth at the same time
on a node. If one uses all of his, consistently, there is little
problem. If several do this, the others will be impacted beyond what is
reasonable.
Your rationalization for improper use is invalid under the business
model, and the AUP. It is a common thing these days for everyone to say
"I'm gonna get mine, to hell with anyone else." Sad.
--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net