For the record there is no written guidance of just how much bandwidth you
have to use montly to be considered an abuser. Many people complain about
this however at the same time it might be better to not publish numbers to
avoid having a set number. For most the assumed number that seems to get
you noticed is somewhere around 600 GBs monthly. That's a lot of bandwidth
for the casual user.

Like many have mentioned cable is a shared resource and the ISPs have to
purchase their bandwidth from the backbone providers.

"Jbob" <jbob1957@Nohotmail1.com> wrote in message
news:loWdnS_tGsSRUNXYnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
Cox cuts them off at 40GBs, based on the one guy in Internet radio
forums using his Cox account to transmit high-bandwidth feeds to
his LoudCity broadcasting account, and got terminated for exceeding
40GBs in one month, which is why I am limiting my outbound feeds
to Live 365 to 16K, until DSL gets put in, in a few days time. 16K
translates to about 5GB per month on a 24/7 station, assuming a 30
day month, and most cable companies I dont think would whine
about that.

Charles Newman wrote:
How much bandwidth does the SLINGBOX use for you?

"Rick Merrill" <rick0.merrill@NOSPAM.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:BeKdnb3ZAt-vzUDbnZ2dnUVZ_o7inZ2d@comcast.com...
Whats a "Slingbox", never heard of that one before. I just use
a Shoutcast-compatable broadcasting tool, and stream to
Live 365 in 16K Mp3Pro Stereo.

Charles Newman wrote:
Slingbox puts your cable tv on the internet for you to access
from anywhere! (jaw falls open) - RM

There is no hard limit. It is a function of the node's average usage....

Take the average usage on a node - then the very top whatever percent
of users are looked at. Then flagged if it is WELL over a certain percent of the 'norm'.

So, if your node is heavily used, the abuser still has to be considerably above
the average user.



"Charles Newman" <chuck@backtalkradio.net> wrote in message news:13dq6jr3371l1d5@corp.supernews.com...

That isn't the point.

What IS is that the average use on the node IS taken into account and
then it's the user that uses WAY above the node's average that gets flagged.

There IS no hard limit...


"Bill" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message news:cp3sd35vdsfsil3q13lj8aluoktkmqe5i0@4ax.com...

Agreed. It is also (in my opinion) a lousy way to do business.



"Bill" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message news:t27sd3h6pd6u90ruav4dkl5d6l9sk8s0ed@4ax.com...

Bill wrote:
not so fast. Police watching the traffic moving by at 70 mph see one
guy passing all the rest are going to think, 'mmm, let's nab him.'

not about business. It's about managing resources.

not about limits. You publish the 'limits' and before you know it we
will all be pushing said limit !-)

Rick Merrill wrote:
That's plain bull and a rotten analogy.
If you can't see the other cars, how are you supposed to know you're passing them ?

"Rick Merrill" <rick0.merrill@NOSPAM.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rfidnezD8e7OA0DbnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
I wonder if that is how channels from all over the world end
up on PPLive, PPMate, SopCast, TVAnts, and many other
Chinese P2P Servers for the world to see.

"Bill M." <wbillups@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5410e3hh03m0lhulqo7h4cj5692oebkjp6@4ax.com...
This is way more than any reasonable residential user would use.
If you are using that kind of bandwidth, if I worked at Comcast, I would
think you are sharing this connection with other people. Basically reselling
Comcasts bandwidth.

And just what is this company. There are many scam shams out there that
promise what you just did.
Those rates are not for individual usage, those rates indicate some very
serious misuse of bandwidth from a residential service.
That is an incorrect assumption. Remember the LA riots, where everyone
started looting.
Some will. I took a similar plan, just because it was cheaper to have long
distance and local service carried by a clec.
Again just because you do not see it happening, it is.
And again, I have seen people do just the opposite.
You need to wake up and smell the roses. Look at strip mining, open pit
mining.
Because that is a reasonable and prudent speed.

But people will drive faster if allowed.

f/fgeorge wrote:
Yeah, right. People doing the speed limit when there are enough to have
one per lane, side by side, slowing it to a crawl. The speed-limit signs
are just taunts aimed at people who have somewhere to go.

--
If you really believe carbon dioxide causes global warming,
you should stop exhaling.

"Bill M." <wbillups@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:qcl0e3pkfgvhv4o86dhuct24hlg8decpht@4ax.com...
Actually it is way more usage than a typical residential user
Nope, wrong again. For a single residence 30 to 40Gb is excessive
Usage patterns over time say you are making incorrect assumptions.
Human behavior is greedy if left unchecked.
We know

Dana wrote:
If you were to stream in one movie, what would that run in Gb -
maybe 10+ Gb (just a guess) ? So that would be 3 or 4 movies ?

That doesn't sound so excessive to me unless I'm way off on the size.

"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote in
news:brKdnSF9x_HQiUPbnZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d@giganews.com :

I wonder what my "node average" is? I downloaded 58GB to a new 750GB WD
external just today while I was out cruising around on my motorcycle in
nice weather!...(c;

Grabit's backed up 48GB for tonight....

Man there's some great movies on alt.binaries.movies.divx these days....


Larry
--
Search youtube for "Depleted Uranium"
The ultimate dirty bomb......

Rick Merrill <rick0.merrill@NOSPAM.gmail.com> wrote in
news:N_mdnRe0r4zPGUPbnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@comcast.com:

If we were worried about "resources", bandwidth that can't be stored, we'd
do something to eliminate SPAM, which none of them do anything to stop....



Larry
--
Search youtube for "Depleted Uranium"
The ultimate dirty bomb......

"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99A4F0328E44Fnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
If all you care about are bytes just get one of the many system flood
self replicating virus's and let it do it's thing. It can fill up hard
drive space faster than multiple T-1 connections can.

On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 01:42:22 -0700, "Charles Newman"
<chuck@backtalkradio.net> wrote:

If you don't have defined, published limits, you are opening
yourself up to legal action. From what I've heard about Comcast's
practice in this matter (giving them a warning with no specifics on
how to get into compliance with the bandwidth limits), I'd say that
they should be hit with a class action suit.

Regards,



Fred

Fred Atkinson wrote:
mmmm, what is the 'class'? abusers?