Hi,

I need to add a 2nd PC from the top level of my home, to the router on
the floor below. The router is linked via a cable modem to an ISP and
to another PC on that floor.

I could run another cable to the floor below but that would be messy.
If I install a basic hub on my floor, attach both PCs to it and then
link the hub to the Router, will that produce any limitations that 2
PCs with a direct connection to the router wouldn't have? Or will
this depend on the type of hub that I use? i.e. do I need a hub with
an uplink? Will a switched hub make a difference?

Will it be possible for both PCs to be able to use peer to peer
sharing software with this suggested configuration?

I'm also considering using VOIP on this level of the house, as I have
no other means of using telephony other than a mobile on this level.
If I buy a hardware phone adaptor through Net2Phone or the like, I'm
wondering whether I can plug this adaptor into the hub also, or does
it need a direct link to the router?

Love

Crow

Crow <joypeacestrength@yahoo.NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote in
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No limitations.


A switched hub provides better performance and prevents packets from being
repeated over the entire network. A regular hub is just a "dumb repeater"
and spews packets all across the network. A switching hub only rebroadcasts
packets between specific ports based on MAC addresses.


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Crow wrote:
Your question is simple. First, buy enough Cat5 cable to connect from
teh new PC to the router. Plug in both ends of the cable. Shut off the
cable modem, the router, and both PCs. Turn on the cable modem, and let
is resync. Turn on the router and let it self-diagnose, and link with
the modem. Then turn on the PCs in order of where the cables are
plugged in on the router.

This connection will enable all computers to share the internet and to
share data among themselves, while being safely isolated from the
internet. The cost is only that for the necessary length of Ethernet
(Cat. 5) cable. Forget the hub is serves no useful purpose for you
application.

You indicate that 'running another cable to the floor below would be
messy'. Then you mention a hub, which would require even MORE cables.
If you can't run cables, then buy a router with wireless capability and
a wireless adapter for the PC, and then you can freely move it around
the house.

Thanks Ron,

If it was my house and my internet connection and I was starting from
scratch then what you say makes more sense.
But since it isn't and I don't know how long I'm going to be staying
here, buying a wifi router isn't cost effective.

It turns out that the hole drilled between floors for the CAT5 cable,
may well be large enough for another cable or even two. I say two
because as stated in the last sentence of my initial query, I will
very likely be running a VOIP adapter from the router also. I have no
access to analogue phone line unfortunately.

So I have to balance whether having 3 inter floor cables is more or
less of a mess, than 1 cable with a hub on the upper level.

Love

Crow

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:15:50 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
wrote:

Thanks Lucas,

There is very little usage of the network accept for Internet access,
so a switched hub is not essential. I'll check out the price
difference before buying, assuming I do go that route

Love

Crow

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:26:27 GMT, Lucas Tam <REMOVEnntp@rogers.com>
wrote:

Crow <joypeacestrength@yahoo.SPAMEE.co.uk> wrote in
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Almost all "hubs" being sold these days are "switches". There is
practically no price difference (Maybe 5.00 at most).

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It's been about 4 years since I bought a hub and hadn't realised how
much the prices have dropped. Maybe broadband has helped make hubs a
more common home purchase!

Love

Crow

Crow wrote:

Also, those firewall/router boxes aren't very expensive either and make it
easier to share an internet connection.

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Crow wrote:

Adding switches to routers has kinda removed the need for most standalone
hubs/switches.

get a wireless router and you can go anywhere you want

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