- Now I have to have 2 internet service connections? (charter internet)
- Posted by michael on June 30th, 2004
I have a computer upstairs and a computer in the basement. I don't want the
two networked together.
About 3 months ago I bought a new modem called Charter's tech support and
the turned the new modem on.
Both modem connections died today and when I called the guy told me we
couldn't have to modems on the same internet connection and would have to
buy another connection service.
I can't imagine that I really have to pay for 2 services for 2 separate
computers in the same home to share a connection.
I'm thinking I might be able to disconnect one of the modems and then call
in have them turn the one on that shows as connected. But will they then
disable the other modem?
HELP!
- Posted by Bit Twister on June 30th, 2004
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:32:30 -0400, michael wrote:
Your two options:
1. Pay for the two connections. If they allow it.
2. Buy two nat routers. One into the cable modem.
Plug the second router into the first router.
Set the router lan sides for different subnets.
Plug each computer into a seperate router.
Now both are on seperate subnets and you can set your firewalls to
block each other's subnet and broadcasts.
- Posted by Bert Hyman on June 30th, 2004
no more spam (michael) wrote in
news:10e659okl9elnab@corp.supernews.com:
When you say you don't want them networked together, does that mean
you don't need them to be able to see one another, or you want them
to be unable to see one another?
If it's just the former, you ->should be able to simply use a router
with your cable modem, or if your cable modem is also a router, just
a switch.
--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@visi.com
- Posted by Egress on June 30th, 2004
"michael" <no more spam> wrote:
Why use two cable modems when you can VLAN to two networks so they are
isolated from one another? simplicity.
--
Fedora Core Linux Development Team
Kernel: 2.6.6-1.435
Registered Linux user #357785
- Posted by Bit Twister on June 30th, 2004
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:44:35 GMT, Never anonymous Bud wrote:
Wonder how the worms an viruses are doing it then.
- Posted by Quaoar on June 30th, 2004
Egress wrote:
Room for Rent. Broadband Internet available. Inquire Within.
Q
- Posted by Ron Hunter on July 1st, 2004
michael wrote:
You don't. The keyword here is 'share a connection'. If you don't want
them networked, just arrange the router so that neither computer has
access to the other's files/printers. You are making trouble for yourself.
- Posted by Ron Hunter on July 1st, 2004
Bit Twister wrote:
One router can do this, just set each computer to reject the other's IP
assigned by the router.
- Posted by michael on July 1st, 2004
1. I don't want them to see each other
2. Wiring through this house would be a monster! And don't even think about
wireless.
IF I went the router option how does that work? The router is a standalone
and the cable modem plugs into it and the computers would plug into the
router?
"Bert Hyman" <bert@visi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95189B088CE8VeebleFetzer@news.visi.com...
- Posted by Bit Twister on July 1st, 2004
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:50:08 -0400, michael wrote:
3. There is some modules you plug into the AC outlets to help you there.
Cannot remember the article I read about them.
Yes, but both puters plugged into one router are on the same subnet
violates 1.
You would have to route the other through the house violates 2.
- Posted by Bit Twister on July 1st, 2004
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:39:43 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote:
I was just trying to meet the OP's requirement of trying to
keep the boxes as far apart as possible, network wise.
I was also thinking of a virus on one box trying to get into the other box.
One router 196.x network and the other 10.x would make it very hard for
a box to find the other. I agree with you about the firewall, if it
does not get disabled by some malware.
- Posted by leslie on July 1st, 2004
Bit Twister (BitTwister@localhost.localdomain) wrote:
:
: 3. There is some modules you plug into the AC outlets to help you there.
HomePlug modules, such as the Netgear XE102 wall-plugged ethernet bridge.
:
: Cannot remember the article I read about them.
:
Here's an article from the San Francisco Chronicle:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L2F831B27
Powerline networks your home
The original URL wrapped to 2 lines:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...chive/2002/06/
10/BU229901.DTL&type=tech
Powerline networks your home
HomePlug modules are mentioned in the following networking guide:
http://www.pcworld.com/resource/prin...d,86935,00.asp
PCWorld.com - The No-Hassle Networking Guide
More info at:
http://www.homeplug.org/
HomePlug
--Jerry Leslie
Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email
- Posted by Ron Hunter on July 1st, 2004
michael wrote:
Yes, and why NOT wireless if wiring would be difficult? There are
security concerns but they aren't difficult to handle.
- Posted by Ron Hunter on July 1st, 2004
Bit Twister wrote:
Not if firewalls in each computer didn't allow them to communicate with
eachother.
- Posted by Robert R Kircher, Jr. on July 2nd, 2004
"michael" <no more spam> wrote in message
news:10e659okl9elnab@corp.supernews.com...
All these complex answers. Buy one Netgear or Linksys or Dlink or some
other brand of router and JUST disable file and print sharing on both PCs.
Set it up like this
Modem -----> Router ----->PC1
|
---> PC2
Now that sounds like simplicity.
As to wiring someone already found a path for the cable, use same path for
the CAT5e.
--
Rob
- Posted by Boyd Williston on July 2nd, 2004
"michael" <no more spam> wrote in
news:10e659okl9elnab@corp.supernews.com:
Just because the two computers are running off of the same router doesn't
mean they are networked. In fact, a lot of people have problems getting
two computers set up like that to network.
Exactly how to set them up so that neither can interact with the other
isn't hard, but is dependent on what your OS on each is. Post more info
for help.
