TO all,
What good is a speed increase from the cable companies when websites and such are
saturated and U can only get a fraction of the bandwidth available anyway. I just went
with COX's 5MB/768K plan. I havent seen anything faster than say maybe 2MB/sec. when dl
and such.

"Joseph L" <joe@luv.stinks> wrote in message
news:83ilh09spc2ra450ov1u4c545vdj2csvu7@4ax.com...
Well first they offer 5Mbps not 5MBps (there is a big difference)
If you have premiere (5Mbps) and are only getting 2Mbps then I say give them
a call as you have a problem on your drop. I have the 4Mbps and consistently
get what I pay for.

Joseph L wrote:

I guess you are having problems then. I routinely download faster than
2 Mbps (even *before* Cox increased my speed).

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Joseph L posted <83ilh09spc2ra450ov1u4c545vdj2csvu7@4ax.com>, excerpted
below, on Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:34:07 -0400:

As PC Medic mentioned, it's not 5MByte/sec. Even your 2MB/sec thing would
be ~18Mbps, **VERY** good performance INDEED, for something rated 5Mbps.
You surely mean 5Mbps and 2Mbps.

True, it /does/ depend on the server and the route between it and you, as
well as your end. It /also/ depends on what sort of stuff you are doing
with the connection. Regular web browsing isn't likely to benefit much
from anything over say 256kbps. However, if you for instance have a news
client that handles multiple servers and have it set up to suck from all
three Cox servers at once, at the 384kbps cap per connection, four
connections per server, we are allowed, that equates to 4.5Mbps, pretty
close to your new 5Mbps cap, allowing you to still download from the web
and stream some music at say 128 or 192kbps, without slowing anything
down. Or.. you can download a typical three to five CD Linux ISO set to
burn and install, that much faster, if you can find a server to serve it
that fast, and often you can. Or whatever else you do with your
connection.

Of course, as PCM also mentioned, you may have a physical connection
problem as well, slowing you down. If that's the case, perhaps you need
to check your inside connections and modem (good ones will let you check
quality by logging into them using your browser at http://192.168.100.1 ).
If you have multiple splitters between the drop and the modem, that will
reduce signal strength. Therefore, if necessary, have one splitter to
split off the CATV lines on one side and straight to the modem on the
other, and then split the CATV side further if necessary. Also, as it
seems from your user agent string that you are running MSWormOS, check out
the speed tweaking forums at http://broadbandreports.com, and see if any
settings on your PC need changed.

That's stuff you can check. If none of that helps, call Cox and have them
take a look. Maybe you aren't getting a good signal from the drop, which
puts the responsibility on them.

--
Duncan - Newsgroup replies preferred. See x-munging headers.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --
Benjamin Franklin

Joseph,

Where are you testing your speeds? How are you judging that your
connection is running slow?

One good site to test your speed at is http://speedtest.coxinet.net -
please post your results.

Also, if you give me the MAC address to your modem, I can run some tests
on it and try to handle your speed issue from that angle.

-CoxTech1
Cox Communications


Joseph L wrote:

CoxTech1 wrote:

Try downloading some files from http:// or ftp://127.0.0.1 and see how fast
they go! ;-)

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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:34:07 -0400, Joseph L <joe@luv.stinks> wrote:

}TO all,
}What good is a speed increase from the cable companies when websites and such are
}saturated and U can only get a fraction of the bandwidth available anyway. I just went
}with COX's 5MB/768K plan. I havent seen anything faster than say maybe 2MB/sec. when dl
}and such.

If u try to order services online and upgrade to the premier package it doesn't even show
my modem - Toshiba PCX1100. So i called them up and I tell 2 or 3 X's what modem I had and
they said it would work. Doesn't seem any faster to me

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:22:30 -0400, "PC Medic" <NOT@home.net> wrote:

}
}"Joseph L" <joe@luv.stinks> wrote in message
}news:83ilh09spc2ra450ov1u4c545vdj2csvu7@4ax.com.. .
}> TO all,
}> What good is a speed increase from the cable companies when websites and
}such are
}> saturated and U can only get a fraction of the bandwidth available anyway.
}I just went
}> with COX's 5MB/768K plan. I havent seen anything faster than say maybe
}2MB/sec. when dl
}> and such.
}
}Well first they offer 5Mbps not 5MBps (there is a big difference)
}If you have premiere (5Mbps) and are only getting 2Mbps then I say give them
}a call as you have a problem on your drop. I have the 4Mbps and consistently
}get what I pay for.
}

I did mean what u said though Thanks for the correction, you're right.

maybe my Toshiba PCX1100 is faulty. It is about 3 years old.

What state are u in? M in RI.

I'ts funny because in 1 of the offices that I clean the guy has Comcast cable and his
connection snaps?
}
}

CoxTech1 wrote:

1.3 Mbps for me. At least Speakeasy and Megapath gives me
2.1 Mbps/490 Kbps.

Joseph L wrote:


Gaming.

PC Medic wrote:


So, when you download a game from, say, EA games you actually
pull 4Mbps from their server? I seriously doubt that. You may
consistantly get 4Mbps on sites to check your speed, but you will
rarely see that in the "real world" on servers that are busy and in
far away places.

WindsorFox[SS] wrote:
Umm, no. During the play of a game, speed -- a lack of latency -- is
what is needed. It's not the size of the pipe, but the speed of the flow
that matters most. That's not bandwidth.


As for what good a bandwidth increase (it's not a "speed" increase) is
if the websites can't keep up, well, websites aren't the whole Internet.
For many (most?) people, the "Internet" is websites and e-mail, and for
those people, bandwidth increases beyond a certain point will not even
be noticed.

Things that do benefit from higher bandwidth include large file
transfers, and real-time video and audio. For most *cable* users who
need, the download bandwidth is fine, but they need an increase in
upload bandwidth. That's not to say a download increase doesn't help
these people. Only that increases in upload bandwidth are more of a
priority.

But for someone who only reads e-mail and browses websites, the lowest
level of cable or DSL offered is probably sufficient. The cost for
higher tiers outweighs any benefits they may see. This also applies to
most gamers, even though gamers tend towards the bigger anything is
better concept.

--
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"Joseph L" <joe@luv.stinks> wrote in message
news:83ilh09spc2ra450ov1u4c545vdj2csvu7@4ax.com...
I constantly reach my 4.3 cap with comcast. Rarely do i find a server that
can't handle that speed.

WindsorFox[SS] wrote:
Yep, you're probably right. ::

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WindsorFox[SS] wrote:

Hmm... if *I* were a serious gamer, I'd be rather have low latency and a
3 Mbps connection, than a 4 Mbps connection and crap latency. I'm
pretty sure gamers are benefiting from a 1 Mbps increase. But hey...
what the hell do I know.

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..BRIAN. wrote:

Correction:

I'm pretty sure gamers /aren't/ benefiting much from a 1 Mbps increase.

--
Brian

CoxTech1 wrote:
DSL reports and Cox. Several tests over 2 days.

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 08:27:48 -0400, CoxTech1 <hrd.tier2@cox.com> wrote:

}Joseph,
}
}Where are you testing your speeds? How are you judging that your
}connection is running slow?
}
}One good site to test your speed at is http://speedtest.coxinet.net -
}please post your results.
}
}Also, if you give me the MAC address to your modem, I can run some tests
}on it and try to handle your speed issue from that angle.

Here's a few results started at 7:19PM in RI:

Raw Data:
Connection Class : Cable Modem or Higher
download start time: 1092352701190
download end time: 1092352713057
download time: 11.867
download size in thousands of bytes: 5001
estimated line speed (K bits per second): 3371
stimated line speed (K bytes per second): 421.4

Raw Data:
Connection Class : Cable Modem or Higher
download start time: 1092352821533
download end time: 1092352833841
download time: 12.308
download size in thousands of bytes: 5001
estimated line speed (K bits per second): 3251
stimated line speed (K bytes per second): 406.3

Raw Data:
Connection Class : Cable Modem or Higher
download start time: 1092352875421
download end time: 1092352887628
download time: 12.207
download size in thousands of bytes: 5001
estimated line speed (K bits per second): 3277
stimated line speed (K bytes per second): 409.7

Raw Data:
Connection Class : Cable Modem or Higher
download start time: 1092352926644
download end time: 1092352940164
download time: 13.52
download size in thousands of bytes: 5001
estimated line speed (K bits per second): 2959
stimated line speed (K bytes per second): 369.9

MAC = 00-90-83-3B-A8-84
}
}-CoxTech1
}Cox Communications
}
}
}Joseph L wrote:
}> TO all,
}> What good is a speed increase from the cable companies when websites and such are
}> saturated and U can only get a fraction of the bandwidth available anyway. I just went
}> with COX's 5MB/768K plan. I havent seen anything faster than say maybe 2MB/sec. when dl
}> and such.

Joseph L wrote:
Well you can use the extra speed to download things from multiple sites
at once, with programs like GetRight. Also, make sure your receive
window is large enough to make use of the 5 mbps or speeds will be
limited. Test your speed with a good speed test site and follow its
recommendations for getting maximum rates. While it won't make slow
sites any faster, you can at least speed up downloading.

WindsorFox[SS] wrote:

I recall getting speeds near 6 mbps when I had @Home service.