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Technicalities of cable high-speed internet access
Posted by Conan Kelly on November 6th, 2007


Hello all,

I've heard that cable high-speed internet access is shared. If I went this route, I could be sharing my connection with my neighbors, thus slowing my connection. I've also heard that providers WILL NOT tell you how many households are on you segment.

In Phoenix, AZ, Cox Communications offers 4 levels/tiers of high speed internet access. My question is, would I share my connection with my all my neighbors who(m) subscribe to *ANY* level/tier of service, or would I share it with just the ones who(m) subscribe to the same level/tier of service that I subscribe to?

Also, since cable companies will not disclose how many households are on my segment, how many households could be on my segment? 100? More? Less?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide,

Conan


Posted by Todd H. on November 6th, 2007


"Conan Kelly" <CTBarbarinNOSPAM@msnNOSPAM.comNOSPAM> writes:

Yes the segment in your local neighborhood is shared media. If your
segment is overloaded and the provider isn't provisioning new channels
to respond to that, then your experience will not be a good one.

Ultimately though, all bandwidth is shared--just a matter of where
the aggregation occurs. For DSL, you get a dedicated line back to the
switch, but then you're at the mercy of the upstream pipe from there.
In cable modems, the aggregation just happens a bit closer to your
house.

It's true.


I'm not sure I'd drive myself too nuts about the details. Talk to
your neighbors who have the service you're considering and see how
happy they are with it, maybe even ask to take a test drive and see
what sort of numbers they're getting from a speedtest site like
speakeasy.net/speedtest or broadbandreports.com


That said I've had cable modems now for ... oh hell about 9 years now,
and never has the DSL sales scare tactic of "cable is shared
bandwidth!" been an issue for me, and I've always had a faster pipe
that the DSL subscribers near me. Fios will change that of course.
:-)

If your neighbors are happy with the provider, you'll most likely be
happy.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

Posted by Conan Kelly on November 7th, 2007


Thanks ASSHOLE for being such a DICKHEAD and BRAIN-DEAD MORON.

Todd H was smart enough to understand what I was asking and answered in an
intelligent and polite manner.

Todd H, thanks for your help. Sorry I didn't respond earlier.

Elmo P. Shagnasty, G_ F_CK Y__RS_LF (wanna buy a vowel?)




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Posted by Todd H. on November 8th, 2007


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> writes:

I didn't open with the word "Dude" though. :-)

--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

Posted by eol@eol.net on November 8th, 2007


On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:06:25 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

bullshit, your reply was condescending and offensive and if you can't
figure out why from the tone of your reply, see a psychologist.
"What, did you think you had an exclusive point to point connection
with that remote web site, with your packets going over one set of
wires like a switched telephone connection? With no one else sharing
those same wires and that same web site?"
You come off an arrogant egocentric hooray henry.

Posted by Conan Kelly on November 8th, 2007


eol,

Thank you.

I'm glad that I'm not the only one that read that as offensive and
condescending.

Thanks again,

Conan
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Posted by Conan Kelly on November 8th, 2007


Todd,

Thanks again,

Conan



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Posted by $Bill on November 8th, 2007


eol@eol.net wrote:
I'm not sure about condescending, but I saw nothing offensive in his
post. This is usenet guys, try less reading between the lines and
more trying to understand what has been said from a technical point
of view. You need to develop a bit thicker skin instead of taking
everyone so personally.

Posted by Gary on November 9th, 2007


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I thought Elmo's reply was fine, if not even humorous. But that's how
Usenet is, people read different things into an author's intent.

You, however, left nothing to the imagination. By resorting to name calling
and offensive language, you made it clear that can't participate in
reasonable discourse.

So, you're either thin skinned or a troll. In either case, you've proven
you have little to contribute while Elmo has proven to have interesting
things to say.

Have a nice day.

-Gary





Posted by Conan Kelly on November 9th, 2007


Gary,

You may have thought it was fine because it wasn't a response to YOUR
question. Maybe if someone talked to you like you were a stupid moron, it
would bother you.

I consider myself a smart educated person in general. But there is some
things that I know absolutely nothing about and I am trying to educate
myself so I can make the best decision possible. I come to these groups to
learn from people who know and I would like to be treated with respect.

Todd H knew exactly what I was talking about and gave an informative and
respectful response.

Elmo P Shagnasty, on the other hand, took me waaaay too literal. He may
know a great deal about all forms of internet connections, how bits & bytes
travel around the world, and the whole telecommunications/IT industry. He
may also be an expert in many areas of life, this country, the world, the
universe.......but it appears to me that he is extremely proud of how much
he knows and he wants to make sure everyone else knows just how much he
knows. And it seems like he is annoyed by people who don't know as much as
he does.

I came here to get educated and I don't like being talked to like I'm a
fucking dip shit:

That translates to: "Hey, you fucking retard! Don't you KNOW that ALL
internet access is SHARED, just like EVERYONE else in the WORLD!!! DUH!!!"

And, I'm sure that is exactly what he was thinking when he wrote that.

Everything else he wrote was in the exact same tone and implied the exact
same thing.

I don't like being spoken to like I'm stupid. He pissed me off and I let
him know. Some people here agree with me, and some people feel there was
nothing wrong with his reply....so be it.

Let's see how you react when you seek answers and someone talks to you like
your an imbecile.

And, No. I'm not a troll by nature, but when something gets me fired up,
I'm gonna put my 2 cents in. He pissed me off, I let him know, and people
started talking. I don't know the exact definition of a troll, but if I'm
thinking correctly, if I were a troll, I would be responding a lot more, be
a lot more winded (yes....kinda like I'm being here), and I would be trying
to piss off everyone.......even those who agree with me. But then....when
you think about it....your post got me to respond like this......maybe you
are the troll......hmmmmm.

....
....
....

dammit, for got what else I wanted to say (plus, I've spent way too much
time on this and I need to get back to work).





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Posted by Gary on November 10th, 2007


"Conan Kelly" <CTBarbarinNOSPAM@msnNOSPAM.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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On Usenet? Nah. You have to expect that people will misunderstand you and
respond in ways you don't anticipate. If you can't do that, you don't
belong here.

Further, resulting to insults and crass language simply because you
misunderstood somebody else's humor reflects poorly on you, not them.

I'm curious, do you work in customer support for Comcast?

-Gary




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