- Linksys NAS200 Network Storage adapter
- Posted by Richard in Va. on November 16th, 2007
Does anyone know anything about the Linksys NAS200 Network Storage adapter?
I'm using WinXP-Home with a Linksys WRT54G v5 Wireless DSL Broadband Router.
The storage adapter holds (2) SATA drives, I understand other remote PC's can access this
via web browser or ftp using passwords. Supposedly, other users can upload and/or download
files to and from the storage adapter based on permissions I set up for them.
Is there anything else $$ needed to accomplish this?
Is the TZO DNS Dynamic DNS service required to do basic file shares between remote PC's?
The TZO software is embedded in the NAS200. Is this really needed?
Thanks for any advice!
Richard in VA.
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- Posted by smlunatick on November 16th, 2007
On Nov 15, 9:44 pm, "Richard in Va." <rea...@aol.com> wrote:
TZO and DynDNS "service" provides a method of finding your "device"
based on a name (ie: "mydevice.tzo.org") instead of IP address
(192.168.2.21) across the Interent. You need this type of service if
you are not using a static IP address Internet service. If you are
not "enabling" this device to be "seen" on the Internet, then you do
not need this.
What exactly is your difficulties with this device.
- Posted by Richard In Va. on November 16th, 2007
Thanks smlunatick for your input!
I really don't have any problems, other than deciding whether or not to buy
the Linksys NAS200 Network Storage Adapter.
Don't mind using the IP address (192.168.2.21) for the few people I'll
provide passwords for. But I don't know if I'm using static IP or not.
My internet access is with Embarq (Sprint) DSL so I have a DSL broadband
router, then a linksys wireless broadband router, then my PC running
WinXP-Home.
I always thought DSL used static IP, but maybe I'm wrong, I don't know alot
about networking...
Thanks again!
Richard in VA.
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- Posted by Richard In Va. on November 16th, 2007
I found out... for around $10/mo, my ISP will give me a static IP address.
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- Posted by smlunatick on November 16th, 2007
On Nov 16, 2:16 pm, "Richard In Va." <Reply-n...@aol.com> wrote:
If you used a "username" and "password", most of the time, this is a
"dynamically" assigned IP address. Depending on when your connection
logs onto your ISP servers, your connection will get an IP address
"assigned" from within the alloted adress range for this service.
Usually for "low" cost DSL services (under $100.00.)
There are services that for additional charge, will when your
connection "useranem" is seen, will always "assign" the same IP
address.
Then there is the true static IP address service where the ISP will
give your an IP address, sub-net mask, default gateway and domain name
(optional) for you to enter these into your Windows IP address
settings (single PC) or router (network.)
- Posted by Jack \(MVP-Networking\). on November 16th, 2007
Hi
You are mixing few issues that are somewhat independent.
Main use of NAS is the storage File for your private Network.
Some NAS' provide also the capacity to configure an ftp server.
Connecting to any device on a private LAN through the Internet is done
similarly and there are few options.
Static IP makes it easy to be found on the Internet, but does not resolve
the issue of Routing the traffic to the NAS.
The Routing pass your Internet Router is based on Port Opening toward your
NAS' ftp server.
In order to work well the NAS must have Static IP, otherwise the port
opening might get confused and the traffic would not reach the NAS
Almost all NAS' you set the IP to whatever is needed to fit to your current
IP subnet scheme.
These two page where written for another devices but the principle is
exactly the same for NAS.
This page concerns the connection through the Internet,
http://www.ezlan.net/myip.html
The second half of this page show the idea of internal Routing from the
Internet to the Device, http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).
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- Posted by Richard in Va. on November 16th, 2007
If I understand correctly, my ISP will assign an IP address to my DSL modem when the modem
logs onto the ISP's servers regardless of whether the PC is turned on or off? If so, my
assigned IP address will be the same until I reset/reboot the DSL modem which is ~ 4-6
times a year. I could probably live with that. With just a few friends and family
members, I want to "share" some family pictures and home movies and such. Or at least make
the files available for those who are interested. Access to these files would be over the
internet (browser web/ftp) or over my local wireless network.
Using something like the Linksys NAS200, they could still have access when my desktop PC
is turned off. Whenever I reset the DSL modem, I could email them my newly assigned IP
address.
Am I understanding this right?
But then the ISP assigns the IP address to my DSL modem right? Right now, I have a DSL
modem, then a wireless broadband router, then my main PC (wired to the router) for
internet access. I guess the NAS200 would connect (wired) to my wireless broadband
router.
I know, I have alot of questions and I'm beginning to confuse myself, I just don't want to
buy the NAS ~$130 + a hard drive ~$130 and install to find out I need a monthly $$ service
to do what I want.
url for the linksys NAS200 Network Storage adapter...
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...=5253976915B01
As mentioned on the above page, the NAS200 offers to "securely share files locally or
through the Internet (FTP, HTTP) with no dedicated PC needed" (this is what caught my eye)
I think the Linsys setup utility will help address the "port open" and firewall concerns
as Jack (MVP Networking) has mentioned in a separate reply, I guess I got some reading to
do.
But again, any advise is always welcome!
Richard in VA.
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- Posted by Richard in Va. on November 16th, 2007
Hello Jack,
Thanks for your input here!
So if the NAS200 has a static IP and I address the "port open" for port #80 or #8080 and
the firewall issues are dealt with, then anyone on the internet that types the IP of the
NAS into the browser address bar will have access to my storage drive provided I give them
a password?
Is this correct?
Thanks for the link to http://www.ezlan.net:80/myip.html
I've read thru some of this and I guess I'm still alittle confused, maybe I should read
some more...
When I saw the NAS200 at linksys.com and read thru all the features and benefits, towards
the end I found the "fine print" about needing the TZO DNS Dynamic DNS service required to
do basic file shares between remote PC's along with a 1-year "free" offer for the service.
I really don't want another monthly $$ service just to do a few file shares over the
internet.
Richard in VA
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The NAS200 offers
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- Posted by Lem on November 16th, 2007
Richard in Va. wrote:
Or, you could go with a free dynamic DNS service, such as DynDNS
(http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/) or one of the others
mentioned here: http://www.technopagan.org/dynamic/#TheList (not the
only list, and probably a bit out of date).
--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
- Posted by Richard in Va. on November 17th, 2007
Thanks Lem,
Lots of reading here to, especially your second link, a good read for someone like me!
Richard in VA.
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- Posted by Jack \(MVP-Networking\). on November 17th, 2007
Hi
You are getting there.
Port 80 is for HTTP, FTP usually uses port 21.
Let assume that you have a regular HTTP web site on the NAS using port 80.
You log to the Router and you ser it to forward port 80 toward the NAS
(Notice that the Router can open a port only toward one internal IP). If
(example ) your NAS' IP 192.168.1.10 you open port 80 toward this IP.
Let say that your external Internet IP is 60.40.2.3., or you use DNS service
that point to your computer as myserver.DNSservice.com.
Some one on the Internet types into their browser 60.40.2.2, or
myserver.DNSservice.com, it goes to your Router, since the Router was told
to Route (forward) traffic coming on port 80 toward 192.168.1.10 it would go
to the NAS.
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- Posted by Jack \(MVP-Networking\). on November 17th, 2007
Hi
You are getting there.
Port 80 is for HTTP, FTP usually uses port 21.
Let assume that you have a regular HTTP web site on the NAS using port 80.
You log to the Router and you ser it to forward port 80 toward the NAS
(Notice that the Router can open a port only toward one internal IP). If
(example ) your NAS' IP 192.168.1.10 you open port 80 toward this IP.
Let say that your external Internet IP is 60.40.2.3., or you use DNS service
that point to your computer as myserver.DNSservice.com.
Some one on the Internet types into their browser 60.40.2.2, or
myserver.DNSservice.com, it goes to your Router, since the Router was told
to Route (forward) traffic coming on port 80 toward 192.168.1.10 it would go
to the NAS.
Jack (MVP-Networking).
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- Posted by Richard in Va. on November 18th, 2007
Thank you Jack for your extended input here. It helps alot!
So I either obtain a static IP from my ISP or use a free or inexpensive DNS service.
Use the static IP from my ISP as my "web address", enable port forwarding in the router
set to forward to the IP address of the NAS which has a static IP.
Good! At least I have a much better idea of what I'm getting into BEFORE I buy the NAS and
the HD to put in it.
I guess I'll call my ISP and bicker for a static IP, I call them every year or so anyway
and "encourage" them to give me a better deal, sometimes they double my DSL bandwidth for
just a few $, sometimes they knock $10+/- off my bill. Gotta stay on those people cuz you
won't get anything if you never ask!
One thing tho, The Linksys NAS200 is independent of a PC, meaning others can access the
NAS over the internet even when my PC is turned off. If I go with a DNS service, will
that require my PC to be turned on to make the NAS accessible to others over the internet
??
The way I understand it, the DNS service installs/runs a service on my PC that tags my ISP
every once in a while, when it detects that the ISP has assigned a new IP to me, it
informs the DNS network to redirect my incoming traffic to the new IP. If true, I'd have
to leave my PC on to keep things going.
Once again, thanks for the ezlan.net link, LOTS of good stuff to read... I'll be in there
for awhile!
Best regards,
Richard in VA.
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- Posted by Richard in Va. on November 18th, 2007
Thank you Jack for your extended input here. It helps alot!
So I either obtain a static IP from my ISP or use a free or inexpensive DNS service.
Use the static IP from my ISP as my "web address", enable port forwarding in the router
set to forward to the IP address of the NAS which has a static IP.
Good! At least I have a much better idea of what I'm getting into BEFORE I buy the NAS and
the HD to put in it.
I guess I'll call my ISP and bicker for a static IP, I call them every year or so anyway
and "encourage" them to give me a better deal, sometimes they double my DSL bandwidth for
just a few $, sometimes they knock $10+/- off my bill. Gotta stay on those people cuz you
won't get anything if you never ask!
One thing tho, The Linksys NAS200 is independent of a PC, meaning others can access the
NAS over the internet even when my PC is turned off. If I go with a DNS service, will
that require my PC to be turned on to make the NAS accessible to others over the internet
??
The way I understand it, the DNS service installs/runs a service on my PC that tags my ISP
every once in a while, when it detects that the ISP has assigned a new IP to me, it
informs the DNS network to redirect my incoming traffic to the new IP. If true, I'd have
to leave my PC on to keep things going.
Once again, thanks for the ezlan.net link, LOTS of good stuff to read... I'll be in there
for awhile!
Best regards,
Richard in VA.
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- Posted by Jack \(MVP-Networking\). on November 18th, 2007
Hi
Some Routers can keep certain DNS services On. Otherwise a PC needs to run
in order to update the DNS service.
If your Router can keep the DNS updated, or you get a Static IP, then the
Modem, the Router, and the NAS stays On, and all computers can be Off.
I personally do not like any of the Entry level NAS. I keep a simple
computer, mini case, with mATX/onboard graphic motherboard, running Celeron
1GHz, 512MB RAM, 320GB HD, using Windows 2000 as NAS and Http/ftp servers.
The computer keeps a free DNS service updated. Since it takes only 70 watts
when working, and less when in standby, it is Not a terrible electrical
expense. I have already an experimental Windows Home Server (WHS) configured
with embedded free DNS provided by Microsoft with WHS. The address is nice
too, yourname.homeserver.com
Jack (MVP-Networking).
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- Posted by Jack \(MVP-Networking\). on November 18th, 2007
Hi
Some Routers can keep certain DNS services On. Otherwise a PC needs to run
in order to update the DNS service.
If your Router can keep the DNS updated, or you get a Static IP, then the
Modem, the Router, and the NAS stays On, and all computers can be Off.
I personally do not like any of the Entry level NAS. I keep a simple
computer, mini case, with mATX/onboard graphic motherboard, running Celeron
1GHz, 512MB RAM, 320GB HD, using Windows 2000 as NAS and Http/ftp servers.
The computer keeps a free DNS service updated. Since it takes only 70 watts
when working, and less when in standby, it is Not a terrible electrical
expense. I have already an experimental Windows Home Server (WHS) configured
with embedded free DNS provided by Microsoft with WHS. The address is nice
too, yourname.homeserver.com
Jack (MVP-Networking).
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- Posted by smlunatick on November 18th, 2007
On Nov 16, 6:42 pm, "Richard in Va." <rea...@aol.com> wrote:
Ports #80 and 8080 are not normally used to "share" files (eiher as
FTP or Windows file sharing.)
- Posted by smlunatick on November 18th, 2007
On Nov 16, 6:42 pm, "Richard in Va." <rea...@aol.com> wrote:
Ports #80 and 8080 are not normally used to "share" files (eiher as
FTP or Windows file sharing.)
- Posted by Richard in Va. on November 18th, 2007
Thanks again Jack... !
Thanks also for the heads-up about the Windows Home Server (WHS) or a Media Server w/WHS
installed as a possible option/solution. I've read thru some of the MS web site on that
product and it appears to do everything a NAS will do plus other cool features, such as,
with an xbox360 with the wireless adapter, I can stream my video/pics to my TV for family
viewing. A bowl of popcorn and we're set!
Looks like people are making add-ons for the WHS to add even more stuff to do, like a
Download Manager or a web page builder, lots of stuff to look at and consider here too!
The difference in $$ between the two would compare with one, ok maybe 2 trips to Wal-Mart,
those folks won't let me out the door till I spend at least $150.
So I guess I'll check to see if my Linksys WRT54G wireless broadband router can keep a DNS
service updated. Then call my ISP and inquire about a static IP as well as to see if they
block certain ports for the service plan I have.
(joke for the day)
I was mowing my lawn last week when the neighbors cat ran out in from of me. I wound up
cutting his tail off, so I gathered the cat in one arm and picked up his tail then carried
them down to Wal-Mart.
You might ask: Why Wal-Mart?
Answer: Wal-Mart is the largest Re-Tailer in the world aren't they?
Thanks Jack!
Richard in VA.
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- Posted by Richard in Va. on November 18th, 2007
Thanks again Jack... !
Thanks also for the heads-up about the Windows Home Server (WHS) or a Media Server w/WHS
installed as a possible option/solution. I've read thru some of the MS web site on that
product and it appears to do everything a NAS will do plus other cool features, such as,
with an xbox360 with the wireless adapter, I can stream my video/pics to my TV for family
viewing. A bowl of popcorn and we're set!
Looks like people are making add-ons for the WHS to add even more stuff to do, like a
Download Manager or a web page builder, lots of stuff to look at and consider here too!
The difference in $$ between the two would compare with one, ok maybe 2 trips to Wal-Mart,
those folks won't let me out the door till I spend at least $150.
So I guess I'll check to see if my Linksys WRT54G wireless broadband router can keep a DNS
service updated. Then call my ISP and inquire about a static IP as well as to see if they
block certain ports for the service plan I have.
(joke for the day)
I was mowing my lawn last week when the neighbors cat ran out in from of me. I wound up
cutting his tail off, so I gathered the cat in one arm and picked up his tail then carried
them down to Wal-Mart.
You might ask: Why Wal-Mart?
Answer: Wal-Mart is the largest Re-Tailer in the world aren't they?
Thanks Jack!
Richard in VA.
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