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Replacing Old Home Network/Workgroup settings
Posted by Joseph Carrier on October 30th, 2005


I've spent many fruitless hours trying to revive my home network of three
WinXP SP2 (Home Edition) computers and at this point badly need help.

What happened is that, one recent morning, one of the three computers in the
"workgroup" suddenly became invisible and inaccessible to the other two
computers, and vice versa. I've tried using the Network Setup Wizard on the
machines to reestablish the old network, using the same computer and
Workgroup names, but that doesn't correct the problem at all.

Now I'm thinking of starting all over by using Network Setup Wizard on the
three machines using a different Workgroup name but the same computer names.
Is there a way to eliminate the existing, dysfunctional, workgroup settings?
Is even necessary to do that before trying the new setup?

Thanks

Posted by Richard G. Harper on October 30th, 2005


Windows doesn't store "old" network configurations, so if you re-run the
Wizard on all computers it will replace the existing network configuration
with your "new" one.

--
.... on the road again ...
Back in the office next week!


"Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:OevLI6Q3FHA.3292@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I've spent many fruitless hours trying to revive my home network of three
> WinXP SP2 (Home Edition) computers and at this point badly need help.
>
> What happened is that, one recent morning, one of the three computers in
> the "workgroup" suddenly became invisible and inaccessible to the other
> two computers, and vice versa. I've tried using the Network Setup Wizard
> on the machines to reestablish the old network, using the same computer
> and Workgroup names, but that doesn't correct the problem at all.
>
> Now I'm thinking of starting all over by using Network Setup Wizard on the
> three machines using a different Workgroup name but the same computer
> names. Is there a way to eliminate the existing, dysfunctional, workgroup
> settings? Is even necessary to do that before trying the new setup?
>
> Thanks



Posted by Joseph Carrier on October 30th, 2005


Thank you.

Was about to start when another question occurred to me: Should I disable
the AVG firewall on my desktop before using the Network Setup Wizard? (I'm
suspicious that the firewall may have had a role in my problem.)

Thanks again.


"Richard G. Harper" <rghaper@email.com> wrote in message
news:u64iZ$T3FHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Windows doesn't store "old" network configurations, so if you re-run the
> Wizard on all computers it will replace the existing network configuration
> with your "new" one.
>
> --
> ... on the road again ...
> Back in the office next week!
>
>
> "Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:OevLI6Q3FHA.3292@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> I've spent many fruitless hours trying to revive my home network of three
>> WinXP SP2 (Home Edition) computers and at this point badly need help.
>>
>> What happened is that, one recent morning, one of the three computers in
>> the "workgroup" suddenly became invisible and inaccessible to the other
>> two computers, and vice versa. I've tried using the Network Setup Wizard
>> on the machines to reestablish the old network, using the same computer
>> and Workgroup names, but that doesn't correct the problem at all.
>>
>> Now I'm thinking of starting all over by using Network Setup Wizard on
>> the three machines using a different Workgroup name but the same computer
>> names. Is there a way to eliminate the existing, dysfunctional, workgroup
>> settings? Is even necessary to do that before trying the new setup?
>>
>> Thanks

>
>


Posted by Richard G. Harper on October 30th, 2005


Don't disable the firewall - uninstall it. Firewall software other than the
Windows XP firewalls usually don't fully disable properly.

--
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* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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"Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ewcZ1EW3FHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Thank you.
>
> Was about to start when another question occurred to me: Should I disable
> the AVG firewall on my desktop before using the Network Setup Wizard?
> (I'm suspicious that the firewall may have had a role in my problem.)
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rghaper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:u64iZ$T3FHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Windows doesn't store "old" network configurations, so if you re-run the
>> Wizard on all computers it will replace the existing network
>> configuration with your "new" one.
>>
>> --
>> ... on the road again ...
>> Back in the office next week!
>>
>>
>> "Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:OevLI6Q3FHA.3292@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> I've spent many fruitless hours trying to revive my home network of
>>> three WinXP SP2 (Home Edition) computers and at this point badly need
>>> help.
>>>
>>> What happened is that, one recent morning, one of the three computers in
>>> the "workgroup" suddenly became invisible and inaccessible to the other
>>> two computers, and vice versa. I've tried using the Network Setup
>>> Wizard on the machines to reestablish the old network, using the same
>>> computer and Workgroup names, but that doesn't correct the problem at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> Now I'm thinking of starting all over by using Network Setup Wizard on
>>> the three machines using a different Workgroup name but the same
>>> computer names. Is there a way to eliminate the existing, dysfunctional,
>>> workgroup settings? Is even necessary to do that before trying the new
>>> setup?
>>>
>>> Thanks

>>
>>

>



Posted by Joseph Carrier on October 30th, 2005


Thanks again.

I'm waiting for Grisom to respond to my email request for help with appears
to be AVG's blockage of my file and printer sharing network.

I did re-setup the Work Group-- with AVG Firewall disabled--and ended up
with the same mess I started with:

1. The AVG-equipped desktop identified only itself as a member of the Work
Group.

2. Both laptops identified two laptops as members of the Work Group, but
not the desktop.

I guess that does make it appear that the problem resides on the Desktop?

I suspect I won't get a response from Grisom that I can understand and act
upon, so I'll probably end up uninstalling the AVG Firewall to try once more
to establish a functioning, three computer, Work Group.

I'll let you know what happens.


"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:u$QpWTZ3FHA.3036@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Don't disable the firewall - uninstall it. Firewall software other than
> the Windows XP firewalls usually don't fully disable properly.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:ewcZ1EW3FHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Was about to start when another question occurred to me: Should I disable
>> the AVG firewall on my desktop before using the Network Setup Wizard?
>> (I'm suspicious that the firewall may have had a role in my problem.)
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> "Richard G. Harper" <rghaper@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:u64iZ$T3FHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Windows doesn't store "old" network configurations, so if you re-run the
>>> Wizard on all computers it will replace the existing network
>>> configuration with your "new" one.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ... on the road again ...
>>> Back in the office next week!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:OevLI6Q3FHA.3292@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> I've spent many fruitless hours trying to revive my home network of
>>>> three WinXP SP2 (Home Edition) computers and at this point badly need
>>>> help.
>>>>
>>>> What happened is that, one recent morning, one of the three computers
>>>> in the "workgroup" suddenly became invisible and inaccessible to the
>>>> other two computers, and vice versa. I've tried using the Network
>>>> Setup Wizard on the machines to reestablish the old network, using the
>>>> same computer and Workgroup names, but that doesn't correct the problem
>>>> at all.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm thinking of starting all over by using Network Setup Wizard on
>>>> the three machines using a different Workgroup name but the same
>>>> computer names. Is there a way to eliminate the existing,
>>>> dysfunctional, workgroup settings? Is even necessary to do that before
>>>> trying the new setup?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


Posted by Richard G. Harper on October 31st, 2005


Exactly. Remove the firewall software, configure the network, then
re-install and re-configure the firewall software. That generally works
when all else will not.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:%23juRFGa3FHA.3036@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Thanks again.
>
> I'm waiting for Grisom to respond to my email request for help with
> appears to be AVG's blockage of my file and printer sharing network.
>
> I did re-setup the Work Group-- with AVG Firewall disabled--and ended up
> with the same mess I started with:
>
> 1. The AVG-equipped desktop identified only itself as a member of the
> Work Group.
>
> 2. Both laptops identified two laptops as members of the Work Group, but
> not the desktop.
>
> I guess that does make it appear that the problem resides on the Desktop?
>
> I suspect I won't get a response from Grisom that I can understand and act
> upon, so I'll probably end up uninstalling the AVG Firewall to try once
> more to establish a functioning, three computer, Work Group.
>
> I'll let you know what happens.
>
>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:u$QpWTZ3FHA.3036@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Don't disable the firewall - uninstall it. Firewall software other than
>> the Windows XP firewalls usually don't fully disable properly.
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
>> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:ewcZ1EW3FHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Was about to start when another question occurred to me: Should I
>>> disable the AVG firewall on my desktop before using the Network Setup
>>> Wizard? (I'm suspicious that the firewall may have had a role in my
>>> problem.)
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard G. Harper" <rghaper@email.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u64iZ$T3FHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> Windows doesn't store "old" network configurations, so if you re-run
>>>> the Wizard on all computers it will replace the existing network
>>>> configuration with your "new" one.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ... on the road again ...
>>>> Back in the office next week!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:OevLI6Q3FHA.3292@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I've spent many fruitless hours trying to revive my home network of
>>>>> three WinXP SP2 (Home Edition) computers and at this point badly need
>>>>> help.
>>>>>
>>>>> What happened is that, one recent morning, one of the three computers
>>>>> in the "workgroup" suddenly became invisible and inaccessible to the
>>>>> other two computers, and vice versa. I've tried using the Network
>>>>> Setup Wizard on the machines to reestablish the old network, using the
>>>>> same computer and Workgroup names, but that doesn't correct the
>>>>> problem at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I'm thinking of starting all over by using Network Setup Wizard on
>>>>> the three machines using a different Workgroup name but the same
>>>>> computer names. Is there a way to eliminate the existing,
>>>>> dysfunctional, workgroup settings? Is even necessary to do that before
>>>>> trying the new setup?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>



Posted by Joseph Carrier on November 2nd, 2005


Oh well -- that didn't work either. Am still working with Grisom but I no
longer believe that it is an AVG Firewall Issue, though I don't know what it
could be.


"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:ujduhdc3FHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Exactly. Remove the firewall software, configure the network, then
> re-install and re-configure the firewall software. That generally works
> when all else will not.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:%23juRFGa3FHA.3036@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> I'm waiting for Grisom to respond to my email request for help with
>> appears to be AVG's blockage of my file and printer sharing network.
>>
>> I did re-setup the Work Group-- with AVG Firewall disabled--and ended up
>> with the same mess I started with:
>>
>> 1. The AVG-equipped desktop identified only itself as a member of the
>> Work Group.
>>
>> 2. Both laptops identified two laptops as members of the Work Group, but
>> not the desktop.
>>
>> I guess that does make it appear that the problem resides on the Desktop?
>>
>> I suspect I won't get a response from Grisom that I can understand and
>> act upon, so I'll probably end up uninstalling the AVG Firewall to try
>> once more to establish a functioning, three computer, Work Group.
>>
>> I'll let you know what happens.
>>
>>
>> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:u$QpWTZ3FHA.3036@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Don't disable the firewall - uninstall it. Firewall software other than
>>> the Windows XP firewalls usually don't fully disable properly.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>>> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>>> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
>>> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>>> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> "Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ewcZ1EW3FHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Was about to start when another question occurred to me: Should I
>>>> disable the AVG firewall on my desktop before using the Network Setup
>>>> Wizard? (I'm suspicious that the firewall may have had a role in my
>>>> problem.)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Richard G. Harper" <rghaper@email.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u64iZ$T3FHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Windows doesn't store "old" network configurations, so if you re-run
>>>>> the Wizard on all computers it will replace the existing network
>>>>> configuration with your "new" one.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ... on the road again ...
>>>>> Back in the office next week!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OevLI6Q3FHA.3292@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> I've spent many fruitless hours trying to revive my home network of
>>>>>> three WinXP SP2 (Home Edition) computers and at this point badly need
>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happened is that, one recent morning, one of the three computers
>>>>>> in the "workgroup" suddenly became invisible and inaccessible to the
>>>>>> other two computers, and vice versa. I've tried using the Network
>>>>>> Setup Wizard on the machines to reestablish the old network, using
>>>>>> the same computer and Workgroup names, but that doesn't correct the
>>>>>> problem at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I'm thinking of starting all over by using Network Setup Wizard
>>>>>> on the three machines using a different Workgroup name but the same
>>>>>> computer names. Is there a way to eliminate the existing,
>>>>>> dysfunctional, workgroup settings? Is even necessary to do that
>>>>>> before trying the new setup?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

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