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- Posted by D. C. Sessions on November 16th, 2003
Check footnotes 2 & 3:
http://www.hp.com/workstations/ia32/index.html
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- Posted by Roy Culley on November 16th, 2003
begin <397l81-beb.ln1@news.lumbercartel.com>,
"D. C. Sessions" <dcs@lumbercartel.com> writes
2 Microsoft Window supports 4GB; greater than 4GB available on
Linux only.
3 Microsoft Windows supports 4GB; maximum configurable memory is
12GB; up to 8GB configurations are supported on Linux only.
Will Windows ever catch up?
- Posted by Scarletdown on November 16th, 2003
rgc@swissonline.ch (Roy Culley) wrote in news:bcbl81-
0ms.ln1@gentoo.linux.src:
Isn't the current 32-Bit architecture limited to approximately 4GB
anyway? Then again, I noticed that the systems on that site that
claim 8 and 12GB capability are dual-processor, so that might have
something to do with surpassing the 4GB barrier when running Linux.
Still, I thought someone very prominent in the software industry once
emphatically claimed that no one would ever need more than 640K of
RAM anyway.
- Posted by alt on November 16th, 2003
Roy Culley wrote:
Who cares. When will HP write a kernel patch that lets the Linux Kernel use
all that 12GB of RAM? :-P
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- Posted by Peter Köhlmann on November 16th, 2003
Scarletdown wrote:
No. You can address up to 64GB. And linux supports it.
Yes. That was for some rather badly designed OS-simulator, though
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- Posted by Roy Culley on November 16th, 2003
begin <%hTtb.406435$pl3.99150@pd7tw3no>,
alt <spamtrap@gwsn.com> writes:
Keep up there at the back:
If more than 4 Gigabytes is used then answer "64GB" here. This
selection turns Intel PAE (Physical Address Extension) mode on.
PAE implements 3-level paging on IA32 processors. PAE is fully
supported by Linux, PAE mode is implemented on all recent Intel
processors (Pentium Pro and better). NOTE: If you say "64GB" here,
then the kernel will not boot on CPUs that don't support PAE!
- Posted by Bob Hauck on November 16th, 2003
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:57:43 -0000, Scarletdown
<SecretaryBird@MYTAILFEATHERSSoftHome.net> wrote:
It supports 4GB of address space per process. There can be more than
4GB of physical RAM in the computer on ia32, but no single process can
access more than 4GB of that (actually 3GB usable, the kernel mapping
takes 1 GB).
Of course, if you go to an UltraSPARC or Alpha or Opteron, then you get
a 64-bit address space all around...
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- Posted by alt on November 16th, 2003
Roy Culley wrote:
yikes! my bad :-P
I've never used a machine with more than a Gig, and I've never paid
attention to that. Oops. :-\
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- Posted by Terry on November 17th, 2003
Roy Culley threw some tea leaves on the floor
and this is what they wrote:
Unlikely given their atrocious performance so far.
In the virus and worm stakes, they are the clear leader however.
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- Posted by Daniel Rudy on November 17th, 2003
Somewhere around the time of 11/16/2003 14:57, the world stopped and
listened as Scarletdown contributed this to humanity:
The only way that I could see someone needing more that 4GB RAM is if
they are running a full server farm.
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- Posted by The Onion Man on November 17th, 2003
Daniel Rudy spake:
This could be your very own Bill Gates "no one will ever need more than
640K" moment. :-)
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- Posted by Jim Richardson on November 17th, 2003
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Big datasets. Many mathematical algorithms, benefit as much from
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- Posted by D. C. Sessions on November 17th, 2003
In <Yq_tb.24310$eY3.19385@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com> , Daniel Rudy wrote:
Per task. Multiple tasks let the total increase, since the
physical address can be greater than the virtual address.
We have quite a few steps in IC design that have to be done on
64-bit hardware because the data sets are larger than 4 GB.
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- Posted by Tony Sivori on November 17th, 2003
The Onion Man wrote:
<loads .45 and points it at my own head>
I really hate to say this, but I believe that is a misquote. I think
Bill Gates said "640K should be enough for anyone" and the context was at
the time he said it, not a "640K is enough for all time" kind of statement.
Even so, I'm sure that 640K wasn't enough for everyone, just enough for
many if not most users at that time which was the early 1980's.
Here's a webpage, which although I have no knowledge of its accuracy,
attempts to clarify Bill's infamous comment.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A23016096
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a suitable penance to serve for defending
Bill Gates here in cola.
<BLAM!>
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- Posted by spike1@freenet.co.uk on November 17th, 2003
Scarletdown <SecretaryBird@mytailfeatherssofthome.net> wrote:
No, cos modern intel chips have "PAE" which can theoretically go up to
....what is it? 36 bit addressing using pages?
- Posted by The Onion Man on November 17th, 2003
Tony Sivori spake:
OK so we're not allowed to misquote on COLA, now?
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Allium Alert #1:
Chewing gum whilst peeling onions stops your eyes from running.
- Posted by Tony Sivori on November 17th, 2003
The Onion Man wrote:
Only the Microsoft shills get to do that. The Linux advocates must retain
the moral high ground.
Never tried that, but wrap around safety goggles work very well for me.
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Tony Sivori
- Posted by Ilari Liusvaara on November 17th, 2003
Datagram from Bob Hauck incoming on netlink socket
<slrnbrg3kh.j7p.postmaster@cardinal.haucks.org>. Dumping datagram.
There is patch that at cost of slowdown in system calls will give 4GB
kernel space to map pages and 4GB address space for each process. Also,
in X86-64, 32-bit processes get full 4GB of address space.
-Ilari
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